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Acer Aspire 5942G Owners Lounge

Discussion in 'Acer' started by PaAra, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. PaAra

    PaAra Notebook Enthusiast

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    Got my Acer 5942G on friday, been working with it all weekend and I am very satisfied with it so far.
    I am a student and use my computer mainly for writing and powerpoint. When not using it for work internet and HD movies. I needed a silent, fast laptop with 2 monitor outputs.
    The Acer 5942G seemed to me like a good choice. It replaced a HP 6910p 2,5ghz dual core laptop, which was to slow and noisy.

    I removed the 640HDD and swapped it for a Corsair P128 and installed W7 ultimate instead of the W7 home.

    Specs:
    15,6 (1366x768)
    Intel i7 720qm
    8gb DDR3 (1067)
    ATI HD5650 (1gb DDR3)
    Blueyray, HDMI, eSATA, Bluetooth

    [​IMG]

    Initial impressions:

    Good:
    Fast
    Silent
    Cool
    Good trackpad and keyboard
    Back lid keyboard
    Bright screen with good colors
    «music controller» on the right side of the keyboard
    Easy acess to RAM and HD
    Good camera
    Fast charging
    Digital SPDIF output
    Good connectivity: 4 usb 2.0 (3 Left / 1 right), eSATA, HDMI
    Good overall built quality

    Neutral:
    2 hours battery time
    Windows premium (not professional)

    Bad:
    Rather big for a 15 inch laptop
    Reflective screen
    Lots of bloatware on in the preinstallation
    Somewhat bad contrast ratio on the screen
    Poor speakers
    Wireless indicator blinks annoyingly as long as WIFI is on
    Screen tilt is maximal 110 degree

    Benchmarks:
    PCmark Vantage
    [​IMG]

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    During idle
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  2. PaAra

    PaAra Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did a little GPU benchmarking:

    The 5650@625/1000 (550/800)
    The GPU temp: 69C with fan at 30%
    Catalyst 10.3
    Win 7 ultimate 64bit
    3DMark06:1280x768, default settings

    [​IMG]


    @625/1050 (550/800 stock)
    [​IMG]

    The overclock potential of this ATI gpu impress me.
     
  3. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Part-time Acer Moderator

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    There's a reason your battery life is so low - you've got a quad-core processor! The Aspire 5942G is a beast of a machine, and the fact that you've additionally tacked on a solid state drive makes me wonder, as a fellow student, where on earth you're getting this money from.

    All OEMs load up their systems with bloatware - Lenovo's the only one that actually provides useful software, and even then it's buried under muck.

    If you want Windows 7 Pro, try looking at The Ultimate Steal and see if it's available in your geography.
     
  4. PaAra

    PaAra Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes, it is a beast :) I am quite happy with 2 hours, and I am especially happy that this machine has a good thermal design, because it is really quiet. I can only hear a soft blowing sound when it is completely quiet around me.

    The machine is priced pretty aggressively and I think it can be bought for less then some of the i5 machines out there. And the SSD I already had in my old computer, so no extra cost there :)

    I can warmly recommend this for anyone who need a fast and quiet desktop replacement.
     
  5. BruBoo

    BruBoo Notebook Evangelist

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    For reference I have the i520M version and find light web browsing on balanced power profile with wifi on gave me 2hrs 40 minutes of battery life.

    The screen is a compromise all around, the same unit is found on some samsungs etc and it is a value for money job, optimised for a 'look down and type, viewing angle'.

    You can make some significant improvements using windows or the ATI gamma correction settings to lift the black level and lower the optimum viewing angle. A touch more video gamma makes DVD watching possible face on rather than looking down.

    On the plus side having fiddled around for hours with colour corrections etc the image in the sweet spot is barely worse than my £600 colour matching screen. However that does 120 degree viewing angles where the screen here goes iffy at 20 degrees.

    You will find you can now download the ATI mobility radeon 10.3 driver I posted a link in my other thread on the 5942G
     
  6. PaAra

    PaAra Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the tip!

    Does anyone know if there are any "fan controls" that work on acer computers?


    Some practical links:
    Catalyst 10.3 for various windows versions or here from ATI.com

    ATI GPU clock tool for HD5000 series

    GPU Z 4.0 for GPU monitoring

    HWMonitor 1.15.0 for monitoring of CPU temperature and power consumptions
     
  7. BruBoo

    BruBoo Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi,

    The ATI link you posted currently takes you to the desktop graphics card drivers.

    You can use them on a notebook if your really must (if you use an inf file modder to hack them into accepting the card ID presented by a laptop).

    HOWEVER I was pointing you and others at a somewhat hidden (from main ATI pages anyway) link to genuine reference notebook 'mobility' drivers from ATI that check your system and install without any hacking and therefore with ATI support. (And work really well too, being about 6 months on from the one supplied with the Laptop).

    For W7 x64These are at http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx?

    Other OS's have predictable nearby URL's
     
  8. BruBoo

    BruBoo Notebook Evangelist

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    Final observation regarding speakers. If you are using the supplied Acer version of the Realtek HD driver then the additional TUBA speaker will operate to produce additional bass. (I am not going to call it a subwoofer . . it still won't do much below 250Hz while my cinema subwoofer is a subwoofer and rattles doors and teeth at 18Hz)

    If you installed the Default windows 7 driver you have lost drive to that unit as it is NOT recognised as a 5.1 subwoofer by the standard Realtek driver.

    To check go to Sounds (NOT Realtek HD audio) under control panel, to speakers and then levels and see if you have a slider for subwoofer. Taking the slider from 100% - 0 - !00% with music playing should be very easily heard in the audio. If not or no slider download the OEM audio driver from Acer.

    All that said the sound is still not anything for music or cinema to get excited about - little bass below 250Hz and limited volume. However on my careful but subjective side by side music comparison it is better than the 'samsung 580' or the non subwoofer Dells' I was considering and it is fine to listen to for a while if you have no headphones and can't be bothered to plug it into external audio..
     
  9. BruBoo

    BruBoo Notebook Evangelist

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    Regarding the Fans I imagine you have the Insyde system BIOS that I have. This new concept BIOS is currently regarded as fairly impenetrable so there is a lack of modding /hacking tools at this time.

    (Although the BIOS has an advanced interface where we would traditionally start to play with fan profiles it is in chinese and not accessible from the user interface at present. I would call this a downside to the system at present but I am not looking to play until it is out of warranty anyway by which time there may be some proven tools.)

    The ATI card of course has it's own BIOS but as far as I know no separate fan so caution would be needed if detaching fan control from the common system BIOS
     
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    vazmuten Notebook Enthusiast

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    g47 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello to the owners.

    I am going to buy a new laptop this week and i am doing a search.
    I narrowed the search down to two laptops.
    The one is the 5942g and the other one the ASUS N61JQ.
    The prices are the same, with a slight difference in favour of the Asus.

    Specs of the Asus here: http://www.bestdeals.gr/index.php?target=products&product_id=32168&ref=bestprice

    A slightly better gpu is capable of being the ''x'' factor to buy the Asus?
    Because it is the only thing it is holding me and thinking about it again and not buying the 5942g.
     
  12. captnemo

    captnemo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello 5942G Owners,

    I also own an Aspire 5942G (Core i7-720QM, 4GB Ram, Radeon 5650, 640GB HDD). It's a good and fast Notebook.

    Looking at PaAra's benchmarks, the Windows Index for Memory is very impressive: 7.3. I only get 5.9 for the Memory. How can this be ?

    Also, Windows, Everest, Intel CPUID reported that my processor doesn't support hardware DEP, or No Execute Disable bit. How about yours ?
    Is this disabled in the BIOS ? As I know this processor supports the Execute Disable bit, Even an Atom Netbook supports this.

    Am I the only one experiencing this ?
     
  13. BruBoo

    BruBoo Notebook Evangelist

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    The Windows experience index is bit more devious that you think.

    IF I recall correctly : You cant get above 5.9 for memory with 4GB, to go above that you need more GB's AND for it to be fast. So I guess the other user has 6 or 8 ?

    Likewise a mechanical drive maxes at 5.9, only drives with no moving parts can exceed 5.9 and then only if they are pretty fast too

    And ms seem to delight in not writing this down clearly leaving people baffled why faster RAM doesn't change the score but more slightly slower RAM improves it in some circumstances

    Probably worth pointing out that
    1) There are far better benchmarks that WEI
    2) The things windows uses WEI for (mainly the initial visual effects complexity settings ) are based on the lowest score in any part. You can do everything W7 does at 5.9 but if some wonder feature emerged that needs 6.0 you cannot get there by upping the memory if the HDD or some other element remains at 5.9
     
  14. BruBoo

    BruBoo Notebook Evangelist

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    forget your other point:

    If you can get your hands on one search CMD, right click run as administrator
    Type in the following and press enter
    wmic OS Get DataExecutionPrevention_Available
    If it responds
    DataExecutionPrevention_Available
    TRUE

    then it is working in BIOS and available to the OS

    If (and this is the case on my i5 version) it responds

    DataExecutionPrevention_Available
    FALSE


    Then it is not operational and given a compatable Chipset and OS the BIOS settings are prime suspect.
    However The Insyde BIOS interface has nothing for advanced users :-( so unless ACER decide to turn it on at some point you will just have to wait until the hacks start appearing.

    In fairness DEP can be triggered falsely which creates support headaches the vendor can avoid by turning the feature off
     
  15. BruBoo

    BruBoo Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh by the way you can get hardware virtualisation support on mine
     
  16. iTz FiNaL

    iTz FiNaL Notebook Enthusiast

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    Would you guys say that this is a pretty good laptop that's worth the money? I am looking for a laptop now and this one caught my eye as its pretty good value for what you get.
     
  17. BruBoo

    BruBoo Notebook Evangelist

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    I think you have to look at individual models, there are numerous 5942G options that vary CPU, Graphics HDD size ODD type etc. Buyer beware especially in retail where they will slip you a down-spec graphics card and no bluetooth under the save £££ of 5942G banner

    I went for the Acer Aspire 5942G-524G64BN (LX.PMT02.018) catchy name that.

    The i5 processor /4GB RAM is a good compromise between all the power you really need and moderate heat/battery consumption. there are i3 and i7 options which cut or boost power and heat/power accordingly

    I went for the 1GB HD5650 graphics, there are lower spec graphics versions out there too but this will just run current games on minimum settings and has no problem with video play etc. Graphics heat also under control

    This model has a 640GB HDD. 500GB is also around. i have only managed to half fill it with my enormous audio/video/photo collection. So ok.

    Blue Ray play on this model. A particularly good blu-ray execution. no problems playing BlueRay disks with the above spec. Acer player needed re-installing but then smooth.

    Nice inclusions Bluetooth, eSata, Express card, backlit keyboard, very decent webcam

    Overall the spec is certainly within the top few % of laptops out there now according to PC pitstop etc.

    Obvious compromises

    Build quality is solid although the design is utilitarian rather than wow.

    Battery. The 6 cell battery supplied plays blu-ray or DVD for 110 - 115 minutes in the real world. SO it is not a free standing player. Browsing life gets closer to the 2.5 / 3 hour mark using Wifi depending on what you do.
    But this is an issue with every competitor system of similar spec. Moving onto solving this limitation I could get a second genuine original acer adapter for £20 and compatible batteries seem to cost about £50. Compare to e.g. Sony prices for these items

    Screen
    To be honest this is the most obvious compromise. The acer uses the near ubiquitous 1366x768 LED screen from the same manufacturer used by Samsung and many others. Acer add a colour and contrast boost engine whose best feature is it's off switch. Some have noticed that looking at the screen from too low an angle shows a pattern on pale colour areas. My solution is to look at the screen from the correct angle whereupon it is fine but that approach has not pleased everyone here. Looked at from the centre of its modest left right and quite limited up down viewing range colours and text are clear and vibrant and pictures (once tweaked a bit) subjectively rival the rendering of a £700 pro colour matching monitor. (that has 120 degree H/V viewing angles and sRGB compliance so I am not saying the screen is the same - just that looked at from the sweet spot photos are just as satisfying in normal conditions). The screen is only 1366x768. To be honest internet explorer was a lot more usable in the vertical space on an older 1440x900 screen but in this 16:9 world any higher resolution gets more in but makes it too darn small. Going full HD 1920x1080 is NOT wise on a 15 inch laptop as many have remarked.

    Recovery/Support.
    Supplied with recovery partition from which you can burn your own recovery disks. And/Or test it, back it up, delete and clean install windows 7 without the apps you don't need. Up to you.

    Sad to say E-mail and on site support etc is NOT up to the speed or standard of e.g. Dell in many way based only on my personal experience, but Dell charge you for this service. Other premium manufacturers also get away with being in the same place as ACER. If you want your defective optical drive replaced on site the next day you are looking in the wrong place. If you would be happy replacing your own optical drive you can save some money towards it :)

    Conclusion.
    At the time I bought this Acer
    DELL would not let me configure a blu-ray drive option laptop and if they had done it would likely have cost more than the Acer and there were some nagging doubts in forums over thermal issues too with the i7 processors they were then fitting.
    Sansungs I looked at were smaller cheaper, but with worse processor and graphics, no blu ray and the exact same screen or much larger and close in cost with similar spec and near HD.

    I have no regrets over the choice I made
     
  18. g47

    g47 Notebook Consultant

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    iTz FiNaL Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for that BruBoo

    I was thinking of getting the i5 model with the 5650, I looked up the GPU and it seems quite good, its ranked quite high on notebookcheck anyway. I was disappointed with the resolution of the screen but I think the pros outweigh the cons on this laptop, so I think ill be purchasing it soon.
     
  20. g47

    g47 Notebook Consultant

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    Actually the screen is the only real con.
    It is a good laptop.
     
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