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Acer Aspire 5020 Series AMD Turion 64 Notebook Review (pics, specs) - FOLLOW-UP

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    <EM>by Joseph Roost, The Netherlands</EM>

    <IMG alt="Acer Aspire 5020" src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Aspire5020_normal.jpg" border=0> <IMG alt="Acer logo" hspace=10 src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/acer_logo.gif" align=top border=0>

    <EM>Model under review: Acer Aspire 5024WLMi (LX.A4605.038).</EM>

    <EM><STRONG>Note:</STRONG> Since this review was posted last year on 1/10/2006 Jos added a&nbsp;</EM><A href="http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=17907#followup" ><EM>Follow Up Section</EM></A><EM> to this popular article.</EM><BR><BR><STRONG>Introduction</STRONG>

    For some months I have been considering replacing my 'very' old Pentium 200 desktop system with a notebook. Although a DTR (DeskTop Replacement) notebook in principle, it should definitely be a mobile notebook with at least 2 hours battery time and not 'too' big or heavy.<BR><BR>Performance wise, it should be able to handle any office-, DTP- or image processing application, and of course also the occasional game. A further personal requirement was that this new notebook should at least be equivalent to my other desktop system: an Athlon XP 2800+ with GF4-Ti4200 graphics.<BR><BR>After some studying and reading about the current notebook offerings and visiting some computer shops, I came to the conclusion that I wanted a notebook with a 15.4" screen and at least a Pentium M 745 or an Athlon 64 (mobile) 2800+ or better.

    <A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/AMD_Turion64_logo.jpg" ><IMG alt="AMD Turion 64 logo" hspace=10 src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/AMD_Turion64_logo_s.jpg" align=right border=0></A> I was more or less ready to buy an <A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/price/default.asp?productID=12795&amp;productFamilyID=455&amp;brandID=1&amp;display=priceDetail" >Acer Aspire 1690 series Pentium M notebook</A>, when AMD announced the competing <B>Turion 64</B> CPU and Acer announced the <B><A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/price/default.asp?productID=12803&amp;productFamilyID=600&amp;brandID=1&amp;display=priceDetail" >Aspire 5020 series</A></B> using it. This Aspire 5020 series looked quite similar to the Aspire 1690 series and the Turion promised to be cheaper than a similarly-performing Pentium-M. Being slightly AMD-minded, I decided to wait for the <B>Aspire 5024WLMi</B>. When it appeared "in stock" at the end of May 2005, I ordered one for Euro 1150,= at HardwareDiscount in The Netherlands.

    <STRONG>Main Characteristics</STRONG>

    For the complete specification see e.g. the Acer.co.uk <A target=_blank href="http://www.acer.co.uk/acereuro/page4.do?dau22.oid=9816&amp;UserCtxParam=0&amp;GroupCtxParam=0&amp;dctx1=17&amp;ctx1=UK&amp;crc=3685739516" >Aspire 5020 series product page</A>.<BR>Here I list only the main characteristics of the Aspire 5024WLMi.<BR>

    • AMD Turion 64 processor ML34 1.8 GHz with 1 MB L2 cache, AMD PowerNow! and HyperTransport
    • ATI Mobility RADEON XPRESS 200 series chipset
    • 512 MB DDR 333 memory (2x256)
    • 80 GB 4200rpm ATA/100 hard disk drive
    • DVD-Dual Double Layer drive (Pioneer DVR-K04RA in my notebook)
    • 15.4" WXGA Acer CrystalBrite TFT LCD with 1280 x 800 pixel resolution
    • ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700, with 128 MB VRAM
    • 56K V.92 modem, 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit Ethernet, dual-mode 802.11b/g
    • 60Wh Li-Ion battery with 'Up to 3 hours battery life'
    • 363 (W) x 278 (D) x 24/32.9 (H) mm, 3.07 kg (6.77 lbs.)
    • Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
  2. <STRONG>First Impressions</STRONG>

    I used this notebook for several days now. Below are my first impressions and some benchmark results of this machine 'right out of the box'.

    <B>Box contents<BR></B><BR>The notebook came well packaged and sealed in a white-green Acer box inside a brown shipping box, containing:

    • the notebook itself
    • the battery pack
    • the AC power adapter
    • a modem cable to connect to a telephone socket
    • a 'Just for Starters...' poster
    • a thin, three-language Aspire 3020/5020 Series User's Guide
    • a modem User's Guide
    • warranty card and International Travelers Warranty passport
    • an MS Windows XP booklet, but no CD
    • a CD package containing Acer Recovery cd's, Norton AV 2005, NTI CD&amp;DVD maker

    <B>How it looks<BR></B><BR>Here are some pictures of the 5024WLMi. I found these pictures on the web (see also the <A target=_blank href="ftp://ftp.acer.de/IMAGES/Acer_Notebooks/Acer_Aspire_Series/Acer_Aspire_5020_Serie/" >German Acer ftp site</A>):<BR><BR>Click the images to enlarge!<BR><BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_lv.jpg" ><IMG src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_lv_s.jpg" border=0></A> <A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_rv.jpg" ><IMG src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_rv_s.jpg" border=0></A><BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_fv.jpg" ><IMG src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_fv_s.jpg" border=0></A> <A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_cl.jpg" ><IMG src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_cl_s.jpg" border=0></A>

    The notebook feels solid and well made. The silver with black design definitely looks good, although maybe more business-like than stylish. I'm not completely sure if the silver parts are from aluminum or plastic.<BR><BR>The size of this notebook is typical for a notebook with a 15.4" screen, but it really is thin, even thinner than the 1690 series.<BR><BR>With the battery installed, the notebook weighs just over 3 kg, which feels quite heavy and is probably too heavy to carry around for a long time. But as I will use it mostly as a desktop replacement, this is no problem.<BR><B><BR>Installation<BR></B><BR>Installation is very simple.&nbsp; The first time you switch the system ON, it automatically starts Acer's SelfConfiguration Pre-load utility. I could select to install either English, French or Dutch Windows XP. After some time it enters Windows XP setup, asking you language, time-zone and keyboard settings. Eventually, you end up with the normal Windows XP desktop, ready to work.&nbsp; The whole process took less than 20 minutes.&nbsp; The Windows version is Windows XP Home with ServicePack 2.&nbsp; The hard disk is (default, no questions asked) formatted in two equal FAT32 partitions of each appr. 38 GB. The C-drive contains Windows and all Acer software, the D-drive is empty. I think there is also a hidden system recovery partition, but I didn't investigate this.

    <STRONG>Included software</STRONG>

    • Acer eManager - for connecting to a beamer, system recovery and some basic system settings
    • Acer Arcade - for playing video and audio
    • NTI CD &amp; DVD maker and Backup Now - for burning CD's and DVD's
    • Cyberlink PowerProducer - for making video / dvd's
    • Norton AntiVirus
  3. Note: the Acer ePowermanagement software (which is present on e.g. the Aspire 1690) was not installed on this machine. You can only set power management features via Windows.

    <B>Documentation<BR></B><BR>The included documentation on paper is minimal: the User's Guide 'covers everything' in 26 pages. There is a slightly more extensive .PDF version installed on the hard disk.

    <B>Layout of ports and indicators</B> <BR><BR><B>Front:<BR></B><BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_08_cl_fv.jpg" ><IMG alt="Front view - click to enlarge!" src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_08_cl_fv_s.jpg" border=0></A><BR>

  4. Left and right speakers [li]Bluetooth communication button/indicator<BR><B>Note: on the 5024WLMi model the button/indicator is there, but there is NO Bluetooth installed!</B> [li]WLAN button/indicator [li]Line-in/mic-in jack [li]Speaker-out/line-out/headphone jack [li]Battery indicator [li]Power-on indicator <BR><BR><B>Left:</B><BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_10_cl_lv.jpg" ><IMG alt="Left view - click to enlarge!" src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_10_cl_lv_s.jpg" border=0></A><BR> [li]Ventilation slots [li]S-video/TV-out port [li]IEEE 1394 port [li]3 USB 2.0 ports [li]Infrared port [li]PC Card slot: Accepts one Type II PC Card. [li]6-in-1 card reader: Accepts an MS, MS PRO, MMC, SD, SM, or xD-Picture card <BR><BR><B>Right:</B><BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_11_cl_rv.jpg" ><IMG alt="Right view - click to enlarge!" src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_11_cl_rv_s.jpg" border=0></A><BR> [li]only the Optical drive on this side <BR><BR><B>Rear:</B><BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_09_cl_bv.jpg" ><IMG alt="Rear view - click to enlarge!" src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_09_cl_bv_s.jpg" border=0></A><BR> [li]Security keylock [li]Power jack [li]Modem jack (RJ-11) [li]Network jack [li]USB 2.0 port [li]External display port [li]Ventilation slots <BR><BR><B>Underside:</B><BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_13_uv.jpg" ><IMG alt="Underside view - click to enlarge!" src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/Acer_Aspire_5020_13_uv_s.jpg" border=0></A><BR> [li]Wireless LAN bay [li]Battery bay with lock and release latch [li]Cooling fan - Note: Do not cover or obstruct the opening of the fan. [li]Memory and hard disk bay (secured by a screw). [p]<B>Screen<BR></B><BR>The screen is a 15.4" WXGA (1280x800) TFT LCD screen with Acer's CrystalBrite technology. This means that it has a kind of a glossy finish (like Sony X-Black) which should provide a brighter display. Disadvantage is that you may/will have more reflections.<BR>Indeed, I found the display sharp and bright with lively colours. But I also noticed reflections, especially when displaying dark-coloured images on the screen. However, when displaying light-coloured images (e.g. when wordprocessing with a white or light-gray background) these reflections are much less noticable or disturbing. But you should definitely take this into account when positioning your notebook.<BR><BR>The viewing angle of the screen is good, especially in the horizontal direction; the vertical direction is a bit more sensitive and you quickly see the intensity of colours change when you rotate the screen.<BR><BR>I used the "Dead Pixel Buddy" from <A target=_blank href="http://www.laptopshowcase.co.uk/downloads.php?id=1" >LaptopShowcase</A> to investigate my screen for dead pixels: I found not a single dead (sub)pixel. [p]<B>Speakers<BR></B><BR>The speakers are, I think, notebook - standard. They are small and do their job but sound a bit tinny. If you are critical about sound, I would recommend using headphones or connecting external speakers. [p]<B>DVD drive<BR></B><BR>The CD/DVD drive appears to be a Pioneer DVR-K04RA. The drive was hardly noticable when playing an audio CD or a DVD. However, when copying files from a data CD it was rather noisy. Until now, the drive had no problem reading any CD or DVD that I tried. Burning a CD was no problem. I have not yet tried burning a DVD. [p]<B>Noise<BR></B><BR>You almost never hear the harddisk.&nbsp; When doing light work or on battery, the fan is usually OFF. Sometimes the fan switches on with low speed and is then noticable, but not disturbing. When the system is being worked hard and the CPU and/or GPU get warm, the fan noise at full speed is quite intrusive.&nbsp; You can also feel that the system becomes warm, especially at the left side, but it never becomes very hot. [p]<B>Keyboard and Touchpad</B><BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_kb.jpg" ><IMG alt="Keyboard - click to enlarge!" src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/aspire_5020_kb_s.jpg" vspace=10 border=0></A><BR>The keyboard generally works and feels O.K. It does 'give way' a bit in the upper left corner but for the rest feels solid. Until now, I mostly worked on a full-size keyboard with separate arrow-keys and numeric keypad. And therefore, finding the correct arrow-, Home-, End- or Del-key still causes me some problems. Also some of these keys are rather small. Probably, someone used to working with a notebook would feel more and/or quicker at home, but for me it will take some time to get used to and to reach the same typing speed as on normal keyboard.<BR><BR>I quickly got used to using the touchpad. It works well and allows precise and rather quick cursor positioning. Personally, I'm still quicker with a normal mouse though.&nbsp; Furthermore, there are several buttons and keys for special / Acer / notebook functions, e.g. Fn-key plus arrow-keys allows you to control volume or brightness, etc. [p]<B>Battery<BR></B><BR>The battery of the Aspire 5020 series is a 60Wh Li-Ion unit with, according to Acer, 'up to 3 hours battery life'.&nbsp; Using Battery Eater '05 Pro I measured batery life under several conditions, trying to get an indication of minimum and maximum battery life:<BR> [ul] [li]<B>'Minimum' battery life:</B> I measured this by using BatteryEater in 'Classic' mode and disabling all powersaving options by selecting the "Home/Office" power management scheme in Windows and setting all 'switch-off' times to 5 hours. BatteryEater then keeps both CPU and GPU busy with an OpenGl animation. I checked several times with CPU-Z and saw that the CPU continuously ran at 1800 MHz. Also the fan was almost continuously operating at full speed. Under these conditions, the battery was drained and Windows shutdown after <B>95 minutes</B>. [li]<B>'Maximum' battery life:</B> For this I selected the "Portable/laptop" power management scheme in Windows and again set all 'switch-off' times to 5 hours. Under these conditions, I ran BatteryEater in 'Readers' mode, only displaying text as if someone was reading. I checked several times with CPU-Z and noticed that the CPU was at 800 MHz. On top of that, I did some writing of this review, but not continuously. The fan was mostly OFF and only occasionally switched on with low speed. In this mode, the battery was drained after <B>3:30 hours</B>. [/li][/li][/ul][li]So, Acer's claim for 'up to 3 hours' seems valid. I have&nbsp;only had this machine a few days now, but from my experience until now, I think that when using this notebook for such things as gaming, the battery will be empty after one to one and a half hours. Doing light to moderate Office applications, three hours certainly seems feasible. [p]<B>Customer Support<BR></B><BR>Fortunately, I have not had to use the customer service support, so I can not say anything about it.&nbsp; There is a standard one year send-in warranty (which I did not upgrade) and you get the International Travelers Warranty if you take the notebook with you abroad.<BR> [p]<B>Speed / hard disk / memory<BR></B><BR>Generally, this machine feels fast and responsive. Booting into Windows takes appr. half a minute.<BR><BR>I did not yet play full games on it, but the 3DMark and Aquamark benchmarks (see below) really flew over the screen. I think the installed Mobility Radeon X700 with 128 MB memory is up to any game you want to play.<BR><BR>The hard disk is a 80 GB 4200rpm drive. As already mentioned, it comes default formatted in two equal FAT32 partitions of each appr. 38 GB. I consider this one of the weaker parts of this notebook. Personally, I would rather have a single 80 GB NTFS partition and also a 5400rpm drive for faster access to data on the hard disk.<BR><BR>The installed memory consists of two Nanya 256 MB DDR333 memory modules. This is enough for most applications, but I'm considering upgrading it to 1024MB to prevent swapping to the hard disk as much as possible.<BR> [p]<B>Processor / System Info</B><BR>This is one of the first notebooks with the AMD Turion 64 processor, in this case the ML 34 model which runs at 1800 MHz:<BR><BR><IMG src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/ml34-cpuzcpu1800.jpg" vspace=10 border=0> <IMG src="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/ml34-cpuzmem128.jpg" vspace=10 border=0><BR>I'm not sure where the "3400+" rating in the processor name comes from. I thought AMD had abandoned these ratings for the Turion. I also think that this 1800 MHz Turion is closer to an Athlon 64 with a 2800+ or 3000+ rating than to a 3400+ rating.<BR><BR>I was unpleasantly surprised by the indicated memory speed: the installed memory is specified as DDR 333 so I was expecting a memory frequency of close to 166 MHz, and not close to 133 MHz. With proper DDR 400 SoDIMMs you should be able to run Athlon 64 memory at 200 MHz. And there is no BIOS setting to adjust the memory speed!&nbsp; I have asked Acer for an explanation, but have not yet received a reply.<BR><BR><STRONG>Benchmarks<BR><BR></STRONG>[/p]To get an idea where to place this machine performance-wise I ran some benchmarks and compared the results with my Athlon XP desktop system.<BR><BR>And as many people will be interested in how this Turion notebook performs in comparison to Intels' Pentium-M / Centrino platform, I include some benchmark results for the Aspire 1694WLMi that I found on the internet (see the links at the end). [p]<B>System comparison table</B> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1> <TBODY> <TR> <TD>System</TD> <TD><B>Aspire 5024WLMi</B></TD> <TD><B>Aspire 1694WLMi</B></TD> <TD><B>Athlon XP 2800+</B></TD></TR> <TR> <TD>comment</TD> <TD>the Turion notebook<BR>reviewed here</TD> <TD>a Pentium-M notebook</TD> <TD>my desktop system<BR>for reference</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>Dimensions WxDxH</TD> <TD>363 x 278 x 24/33 mm</TD> <TD>364 x 279 x 34/39 mm</TD> <TD>n.a.</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>Weight</TD> <TD>3.1 kg</TD> <TD>3.0 kg</TD> <TD>n.a.</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>Battery</TD> <TD>60 Wh Li-Ion</TD> <TD>65 Wh Li-Ion</TD> <TD>n.a.</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>chipset</TD> <TD>ATI Mobility<BR>RADEON XPRESS 200</TD> <TD>Intel 915PM Express</TD> <TD>VIA KT333</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>CPU</TD> <TD>Turion 64 ML34</TD> <TD>Pentium M 760</TD> <TD>Athlon XP 2800+ Barton</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>CPU freq.</TD> <TD>1.80 GHz</TD> <TD>2.00 GHz</TD> <TD>2.08 GHz</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>L2 cache</TD> <TD>1024 Kb</TD> <TD>2048 Kb</TD> <TD>512 Kb</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>GPU</TD> <TD>Radeon X700 /128MB</TD> <TD>Radeon X600 /128MB</TD> <TD>GF4 Ti4200 /64MB</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>RAM as tested</TD> <TD>512 MB DDR PC2700</TD> <TD>1024 MB DDR PC2700</TD> <TD>1024 MB DDR PC2700</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>Harddisk</TD> <TD>80 GB 4200rpm</TD> <TD>100 GB 5400rpm *1</TD> <TD>80 GB 7200rpm</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> [p]<B>Benchmark results</B><BR>The numbers for the Aspire 5024WLMi in <B>bold</B> were measured by myself with the notebook as it came right out of the box, at Windows Home/Office power saving settings and connected to an AC wall socket.<BR> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1> <TBODY> <TR> <TD>System</TD> <TD><B>Aspire 5024WLMi</B></TD> <TD><B>Aspire 1694WLMi</B></TD> <TD><B>Athlon XP 2800+</B></TD></TR> <TR> <TD>&nbsp;</TD> <TD>Turion 1.8 GHz</TD> <TD>Pentium-M 2.0 GHz</TD> <TD>Athlon XP 2.08 GHz</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>CPUMark99</TD> <TD><B>233</B></TD> <TD>238 *3</TD> <TD>184</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>PCMark2002 CPU</TD> <TD><B>5859</B></TD> <TD>&nbsp;</TD> <TD>6084</TD></TR> <TR> <TD align=right>Memory</TD> <TD><B>6435</B></TD> <TD>&nbsp;</TD> <TD>4254</TD></TR> <TR> <TD align=right>Harddisk</TD> <TD><B>621</B></TD> <TD>&nbsp;</TD> <TD>761</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>PCMark04 v1.3</TD> <TD><B>3415</B></TD> <TD>3960 *2</TD> <TD>3154</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>Super-Pi&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1M<BR>(lower is better)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2M</TD> <TD><B>50 s</B><BR><B>118 s</B></TD> <TD>40 s *1<BR>&nbsp;</TD> <TD>57 s<BR>134 s</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>ScienceMark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Primordia<BR>(lower is better)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Moldyn</TD> <TD><B>517.3</B>&nbsp;&nbsp;(499.3 *4)<BR><B>110.7</B>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(98.0 *4)</TD> <TD>467.4 *4<BR>105.5 *4</TD> <TD>497.0<BR>96.4</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>3DMark2001 SE</TD> <TD><B>15045</B></TD> <TD>12783 *1,&nbsp;&nbsp;12025 *2</TD> <TD>9849</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>3DMark05</TD> <TD><B>2161</B></TD> <TD>1300 *1,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1269 *2</TD> <TD>not supported by GF4</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>Aquamark 3</TD> <TD><B>40,384</B></TD> <TD>26,477 *2</TD> <TD>16,022</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>Battery Eater Pro</TD> <TD><B>1:35 'minimum'<BR>3:30 'maximum'</B></TD> <TD>2:59 *1</TD> <TD>n.a.</TD></TR> <TR> <TD colSpan=4>&nbsp;</TD></TR> <TR> <TD align=middle colSpan=4>SiSoft Sandra 2005</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>CPU Dhryst MIPS</TD> <TD><B>8317</B>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(8354 *4)</TD> <TD>8656 *4</TD> <TD>8416</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>CPU Whetst MFLOPS</TD> <TD><B>2840</B></TD> <TD>&nbsp;</TD> <TD>3195</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>CPU iSSE2 MFLOPS</TD> <TD><B>3667</B></TD> <TD>&nbsp;</TD> <TD>-</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>CPU media Int it/s</TD> <TD><B>17152</B>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(17240 *4)</TD> <TD>19142 *4</TD> <TD>19139</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>CPU media Float it/s</TD> <TD><B>18448</B></TD> <TD>&nbsp;</TD> <TD>20368</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>RAM BW Int MB/s</TD> <TD><B>1929</B></TD> <TD>2116 *2</TD> <TD>2028</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>RAM BW Float MB/s</TD> <TD><B>1930</B></TD> <TD>2240 *2</TD> <TD>1942</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> [ol] [li]<A target=_blank href="http://www.notebookreview.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15460" >http://www.notebookreview.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15460</A><BR>A review of the Aspire 1694WLMi. [li]<A target=_blank href="http://www.gamesplanet.be/index.php?main=gp_article&amp;info=gp_article&amp;articleId=402&amp;chk=5LieVx2Er1" >http://www.gamesplanet.be/index.php?main=gp_article&amp;info=gp_article&amp;articleId=402&amp;chk=5LieVx2Er1</A><BR>A review of the Aspire 1694WLMi.<BR><FONT color=red><I>(Beware: SiSoft Sandra CPU results probably at 800 Mhz powersaving mode !!!)</I></FONT> [li]<A target=_blank href="http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/MiniPCPortablesPDA/ACER-Aspire-1693-WLMi-sujet-13948-1.htm" >http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/MiniPCPortablesPDA/ACER-Aspire-1693-WLMi-sujet-13948-1.htm</A><BR>Some benchmark results for the Aspire 1693WLMi with Pentium M 750 @ 1.86 Ghz. [li]<A target=_blank href="http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=turion64&amp;page=1" >http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=turion64&amp;page=1</A><BR>Turion and Pentium M comparison review.<BR>In my table above, I used their Turion MT34 results, assuming ML34 similar to MT34.<BR>They also give Pentium-M 750 (1.86 GHz) and P-M 770 (2.13 GHz). I interpolated their results for P-M 760 at 2.0 GHz. [li]<A target=_blank href="http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59500&amp;highlight=turion" >http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59500&amp;highlight=turion</A><BR>Gives some benchmark results for Turion ML30 at 1.6 GHz and overclocked at 2.0 GHz. [/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/ol][li][li][li][li] [p]<STRONG>Conclusion</STRONG>[/p]<B>Pros:</B> [ul] [li]good value for money: cheaper than a Pentium M (760) system but performance comes very close [li]excellent graphics adapter [li]up to three and a half hours battery life [li]large and clear 15.4" CrystalBrite screen [/li][/li][/li][/li][/ul][li][li][li]<B>Cons:</B> [ul] [li]memory only running at 133 MHz - why Acer ? [li]4200rpm hard disk [li]keyboard gives way at left side [li]fan rather noisy when at full speed [li]no Bluetooth [/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/ul][li][li][li][li]Notwithstanding any comments or remarks I made above, I did not have a single serious problem with this notebook. I think this is a very good machine: a nice design and as compact as it can be for a 15.4" screen. It is also very powerful and has a good battery life.<BR>This Turion notebook is definitely a solid competitor for the Pentium-M / Centrino notebooks, even more when models with the faster ML37-ML44 Turions and/or the lower power consumption (25 Watt) MT34-MT44 will come out.<BR><BR>I can recommend this notebook to anyone looking for a powerful and still mobile (desktop replacement) notebook.[/li] [p]&nbsp;[/p]</FONT><A name=followup></A> <HR> <H2>Review Follow-up</H2> [p]10 January 2006<BR><BR>In the 7 months since my original review was published, there have been extensive discussions about the Aspire 5020 series notebook, here on Notebookreview.com and on other fora. I will list the most important issues here and also give a list of links to newer drivers, to some articles about the Turion and to some utilities that may come in handy when using this notebook.[/p] [p]Generally, I'm still very happy with (the performance of) this notebook, especially after the "slow memory" problem was solved. Also, the screen, keyboard and DVD drive are still doing well, although I had to order a new cover for the DVD drive from Acer Support.<BR><BR><B>Pros / Cons / Known issues:</B>[/p] [ul] [li]no SPDIF out [li]cover of slot-in DVD sometimes comes off; you can order a new one from Acer support. [li]the outside cover scratches very easily<BR>[/li][/li][/li][/ul][li][li] [p]<B>Memory speed:</B>[/p] [p]DDR333 / PC2700 memory modules:<BR><B><EM>From bios 1.11 onwards, DDR333 / PC2700 memory now runs at the expected 167/333MHz !</EM></B><BR><BR>DDR400 / PC3200 memory modules:<BR>Although the Turion64 in principle supports DDR400 / PC3200 memory at 200/400MHz, these modules are not guaranteed to work at that speed:<BR>some modules may indeed work at 200/400 Mhz, but others only at 167/333MHz.<BR><BR><B>Launch Manager:</B>[/p] [p]You need to have Launch Manager installed in order to use the wireless network button(s) at the front.&nbsp; If you have problems with these buttons <B>after installing MS Office</B>, you should get LaunchManager 1.0.8.3 from the Acer website.<BR><BR><B>Bios:</B>[/p] [p]Acer has released several new Bios versions for the Aspire 5020, but supplies little, if any, information about what is solved or included for each new version.&nbsp; Make sure that you have at least version 1.11 installed, which solves the "slow memory" problem mentioned in my original review.&nbsp; With bios 1.13 there were some installation problems when using the included bol113.bat file. But you can also download the separate Winphlash utility from the Acer website to update the bios. You need the bios file from the M26 subdirectory when you have the X700 graphics.&nbsp; The latest version is Bios 1.18 as per 5 December 2005, which installed and works without problem on my machine.<BR><BR><B>Popping noises:</B>[/p] [p]Initially there were reports about "popping" sounds during audio playback.&nbsp; These problems were resolved with new audio drivers from Realtek (from version 3.76 (5.10.0.5900) onwards), which are now (probably) also included in the new Audio.zip from the Acer website.<BR><BR><B>ATI Mobility Radeon drivers:</B><BR>The Acer supplied ATI drivers appear to work quite well.<BR>However, ATI has released several newer versions of drivers for the Mobility Radeon, but if you try to download these from the ATI website, you initially download a program (atimcatw.exe) which says that these drivers are not suitable for your Acer notebook.<BR>You can bypass this atimcatw program and download the <B>32-bit Mobility Catalyst drivers</B> (ca, 33 MB) via the following direct link:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.ati.com/online/mobilecatalyst/index.html" >http://www.ati.com/online/mobilecatalyst/index.html</A><BR>And they do work without problem on my Acer Aspire 5020 - I have the Mobility Catalyst 5.12 drivers installed right now.<BR>If you also want to install/use the ControlCenter, you need to have .NET Framework installed.<BR>Alternatively, you can download the 'normal' Catalyst drivers and adapt them with the Mobility Modder tool, which is also the way to go for 64-bit drivers.<BR><BR><B>SM-bus drivers:</B><BR>When the SM-bus drivers are missing, e.g. after new Windows installation, you can download new "Southbridge" drivers (which include the drivers for SM-bus) from the ATI website via "Motherboards with ATI graphics".<BR><BR><B>AMD processor driver:</B><BR>There are newer versions (May 2005) processor drivers available for the Turion64 from the AMD website:<BR>version 1.2.2.2 for 32-bit Windows XP<BR>version 1.2.2.1 for 64-bit Windows XP Pro x64<BR><BR><B>Recovery CD's:</B><BR>These just re-create the system as it came from the factory, i.e. with C: and D: FAT32 partitions and a small hidden recovery partition. If you want to install Windows according to your own preferences, you will need a separate Windows CD.<BR><BR><B>Updated benchmarks:</B><BR>I re-did some benchmarks of my original review to show the effect of going from 2x256MB@133MHz (original modules with original bios 1.03) to 2x512MB@166MHz (new modules with bios 1.11).<BR>As expected, there was a considerable improvement in PCMark and Sandra memory benchmarks. Also 3DMark and Aquamark seemed to like more/faster memory, but all the other benchmarks seemed to depend mainly on CPU-speed. <BR><BR>[/p] <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1> <TBODY> <TR> <TD>System</TD> <TD align=middle colSpan=2><B>Aspire 5024WLMi</B><BR>Turion ML34 1.8 GHz</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>BIOS</TD> <TD>v1.03</TD> <TD>v1.11</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>Memory</TD> <TD>512 MB (2x256)</TD> <TD>1024 MB (2x512)</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>Memory speed</TD> <TD>~133 MHz</TD> <TD>~166 MHz</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>PCMark2002 Memory</TD> <TD>6435</TD> <TD>7057</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>PCMark04 v1.3</TD> <TD>3415</TD> <TD>3493</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>3DMark2001 SE</TD> <TD>15045</TD> <TD>15564</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>3DMark05</TD> <TD>2161</TD> <TD>2202</TD></TR> <TR> <TD>SiSoft Sandra RAM BW MB/s</TD> <TD>1930</TD> <TD>2459</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> [p]<BR><B>Aspire 5020 names and part numbers</B>[/p] [p]Recently, Aspire 5020 series models with 256MB X700 graphics have appeared.<BR>I also found one reference to an Aspire 502<B>5</B>WLMi with a ML37 Turion processor (but not on an Acer website).<BR><BR>Therefore, as far as I know, there are now 3 part numbers for the Aspire 5020 series, depending on installed graphics adapter:[/p] [ul] [li]LX.A4705.xxx for the 5020 series with ATI X600 64 MB[/li] [li]LX.A4605.xxx for the 5020 series with ATI X700 128 MB[/li] [li]LX.AA505.xxx for the 5020 series with ATI X700 256 MB[/li][/ul] [p]Furthermore, the following model names are used, depending on installed CPU:[/p] [ul] [li]5021WLMi with Turion 64 ML28 (1.6 GHz, 512 KB)[/li] [li]5022WLMi with Turion 64 ML30 (1.6 GHz, 1024 KB)[/li] [li]5023WLMi with Turion 64 ML32 (1.8 GHz, 512 KB)[/li] [li]5024WLMi with Turion 64 ML34 (1.8 GHz, 1024 KB)[/li] [li]5025WLMi with Turion 64 ML37 (2.0 GHz, 1024 KB) ??[/li][/ul] [p]<B>Upgrading the CPU ?</B>[/p] [p]I have recently seen faster Turion64 CPU's, e.g. Turion64 MT37/ML37 (2.0GHz, 1024KB, 25/35 W) being offered for appr. 250 Euros, and Turion64 MT40/ML40 (2.2GHz, 1024KB, 25/35 W) being offered for appr. 300 Euros. Still expensive but likely to become cheaper.[/p] [p]Furthermore, recent contributions to this thread show that it is apparently physically posible to upgrade the Aspire 5020 with a new CPU, but you will have to dis-assemble the system almost completely. It is also not known if the bios supports faster CPU's (it probably will, if the mentioned 5025WLMi with ML37 is an official Acer model).<BR><BR><B>Further links to drivers, articles and utilities:</B> [/p] [ul] [li]WWW Acer Support page for aspire 5020:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/notebook/as_3020_5020.html" >http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/notebook/as_3020_5020.html</A> [li]FTP Acer Support page for aspire 5020:<BR><A target=_blank href="ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_3020_5020/" >ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_3020_5020/</A> [li]Acer Support link to Winphlash utility:<BR><A target=_blank href="ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/utilities/winphlash/" >ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/utilities/winphlash/</A><BR> [li]Direct link to 32 bit ATI Mobility Catalyst drivers:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.ati.com/online/mobilecatalyst/index.html" >http://www.ati.com/online/mobilecatalyst/index.html</A><BR> [li]AMD processor drivers:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13349,00.html" >http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13349,00.html</A><BR> [li]Realtek audio drivers:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlac97-2.aspx?lineid=5&amp;famid=12&amp;series=8&amp;Software=True" >http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlac97-2.aspx?lineid=5&amp;famid=12&amp;series=8&amp;Software=True</A><BR> [li]Turion vs. Pentium M article:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=17" >http://www.laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=17</A><BR> [li]Other Aspire 5020 review with many installation and bios screenshots:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.elitebastards.com/page.php?pageid=11483" >http://www.elitebastards.com/page.php?pageid=11483</A><BR> [li]Some Athlon and Turion 64 architecture info:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=1111057&amp;#post1111057" >http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=1111057&amp;#post1111057</A><BR> [li]CPU-Z - utility to display information about CPU, memory etc.:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php" >http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php</A><BR> [li]Mobilemeter - utility to monitor temperatures and battery:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Oakland/8259/" >http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Oakland/8259/</A><BR> [li]Notebook Hardware Control utility (originally for Centrino, but also works for Turion):<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.pbus-167.com/chc.htm" >http://www.pbus-167.com/chc.htm</A><BR> [li]SpeedSwitchXP - alternative utility to Windows built-in power management:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.diefer.de/speedswitchxp/" >http://www.diefer.de/speedswitchxp/</A><BR> [li]ATI-Tool - utility to overclock your graphics adapter:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/" >http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/</A><BR> [li]RMClock - utility to set e.g. lower CPU voltage:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml" >http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml</A><BR> [li]a64tweaker utility:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=106" >http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=106</A><BR> [li]Battery Eater Pro - utility to test your battery:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://batteryeater.com/" >http://batteryeater.com/</A><BR> [li]Dead Pixel Buddy - utility to test your screen for dead pixels:<BR><A target=_blank href="http://www.laptopshowcase.co.uk/downloads.php?id=1" >http://www.laptopshowcase.co.uk/downloads.php?id=1</A><BR><BR><BR>[/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/ul][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/p][/p][/p][/p][/li][/p][/p][/p][/p][/p][/p][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li][/li]
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  • xmorphx

    xmorphx Newbie

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    Hello Joseph!

    thanks for your great review of this turion64 notebook. what i noticed in the screenshot is the 1,45vcore. i am wondering if you can also use the tool rightmark cpu clock utility, can be found unter http://cpu.rightmark.org/download.shtml - it´s a small utility, that controls multi, voltage of your cpu. i think you may notice better battery-runtime, when you lower the standard-values.

    if you can post results, i will not complain [:D]


    greetings,

    xmorphx
     
  • Jos

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    Yes, I know about this tool, but I did not yet try it.
    I also wonder how much I would gain by going from e.g. 1.45 to 1.2 Volt. Probably battery time is much more influenced by whether or not the e.g. the cooling fan or the DVD drive are active / used.
    Maybe I'll try it someday.
     
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    Hey, thanks for the review. Nice to see a Turion with a decent graphics adapter! Looks like it works well.

    Since it sounds like you have some experience with Acer, do their keyboards feel good and hold up? I have one old notebook with an unusable keyboard -- only works now if you can manage to press the keys exactly vertical...

    Rich
     
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    Probably the most interesting turion-notebook so far - until hp will show off their own.
    have already sent the link to this review to a friend, who will buy a notebook next month.
    going from 1,45 to 1,2 will bring you half an hour i guess - in idle mode, the cpu will run with 0,9v.

    greetings,

    xmorphx
     
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    Anyone know where I could find an Acer Aspire 5020 in the US???
     
  • Jos

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    Rich,
    This is my first Acer notebook, so I have no idea how this will hold up over time. If you're concerned about how a keyboard works or feels, best advice is to try it out in a shop if possible.

    Xmorphx,
    I'll definitely try to 'optimise' this machine. I also found an a64tweaker utility with which I managed, at first try, to get the memory running at 150 MHz instead of the factory default 133MHz.
    But further experimenting will have to wait a few weeks because I'm quite busy right now, and then leave for holidays.


    alliedcvil
    This machine is only available for around two weeks now in Europe. I have no idea about Acer's plans for the US.


     
  • fidel73

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    Hi Joseph

    I bought the aspire 5024WLMi last week.
    Yes it is a powerful notebook and currently I would say that I am satisfied with it except two issues...
    After 3-4 days I have found 9 (nine) defect subpixels which I can see on the black screen. Does somebody knows whether is it ready to RMA or is it necessary to wait for more dead pixels?? :(((
    Second thing that is really annoying are clicks and pops in sound during playback. Have you also heard it ? I do not know, how to solve it. There is no possibility to increase the PCI Latency in BIOS.

    Question. What is your BIOS version ? I have a versio 1.03 and my memory speed is set to 166MHz (report from CPU-Z) also memory tests reports 2500MB/s, perhaps you should update a new BIOS

    Thank you
    Mark
     
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    Hello Fidel73!

    contact acer and let them know - i think 9 pixels is too much. for the sound issue: try the latest driver, if available through internet.

    maybe you have the time to test the utility rightmark cpu clock utility?
    it is a better version of powernow or cool&quiet, because you can set voltages by yourself.

    for others, have found one more interesting turion-notebook:
    http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zdnet.fr%2Fproduits%2Fmateriels%2Fpc_portables%2Ftest%2F0%2C39030368%2C39223910%2C00.htm%3F&lp=fr_en&intl=1

    a list of all turion notebooks can be found here: http://www.amdboard.com/turion_64_notebook.html

    greetings,

    xmorphx
     
  • fidel73

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xmorphx
    [br]
    contact acer and let them know - i think 9 pixels is too much. for the sound issue: try the latest driver, if available through internet.

    maybe you have the time to test the utility rightmark cpu clock utility?
    it is a better version of powernow or cool&quiet, because you can set voltages by yourself.
    greetings,

    xmorphx
    <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

    Hi xmorphx

    Yes I have the time to test it...What exactly are you interesting for ?
    Currently I am using CPU driver from AMD (v1.2.2) and powerNow is working fine. But AMD site offers two versions of AMD PowerNow drivers. First one is classical driver where frequency changes according to CPU load and second one uses CPU frequency and voltage set to maximum (maybe for gamers).

    ...Regading to the sound issue I am using the most recent drivers A3.73 downloaded during the last weekend.

    Mark
     
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    Hi Mark!

    you can find it here: http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml
    vcore of 1.45 seems high for ah mobile cpu as it uses the same or higher values than the "normal" athlon64

    would interest me, if the notebook runs rockstable with vcore 1.2 at max and 0.8 or 0.9 at idle.

    regarding powernow - haven´t found your mentionned 2 differend versions, do you have a link?

    sound issue is odd - with every playback-program?

    greetings,

    xmorphx

     
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    Quote:
    "512 MB DDR 333 memory (2x256)
    80 GB 4200rpm ATA/100 hard disk drive "

    The specification in UK market is slightly different.

    Acer 5024
    1024 MB DDR 333 memory (2x512)
    100 GB 4200rpm ATA/100 hard disk drive

    Also I read some other reviews and some of them say the HDD is 5400rpm?! Don't know which one is correct.

    see

    http://www.acernotebooks.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_5020_Laptops/prod.asp

    I have ordered one, as I am also AMD-minded.

    OK, I will post more when I get the machine. Thanks for your review, Jos.

    AMD-minded :)
     
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xmorphx
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    Hi Mark!

    would interest me, if the notebook runs rockstable with vcore 1.2 at max and 0.8 or 0.9 at idle.
    regarding powernow - haven´t found your mentionned 2 differend versions, do you have a link?
    sound issue is odd - with every playback-program?
    <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

    I found it here...
    http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_12474,00.html
    From where I have downloaded the second driver (that keeps my turion64 running on 1800MHz all the time) I cannot find out. Maybe it is an old driver or driver for desktop/server version.
    But with updated driver from AMD (v1.2.2.2) I have a better memory throughput.

    I've tried the rmclock utility but not so long (10 minutes) and CPU was able to run on 0.9V in idle. (0.8V is too low, it is not working).

    Updated(10-06-2005): On MAX freq.(1800MHz) it is stable on 1.25V instead of 1.45V. I would say that heat is lower, notebook fan is quieter.
    (IMHO the better solution would be to have same settings but with modded AMD CPU driver)
    I guess that CPU driver has very similar attributes like rmclock concerning to clocks and voltages settings.

    Mark
     
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    Hello Mark!

    thanks for testing. voltage of 1.25 is very good at this speed, 0.9v, though i don´t know the idle speed, i guess 800mhz.

    you statet, that your memory clocks at 166, so as specified by acer - hope joseph can find a bios to solve his low 130mhz.

    rm clock utility is like cool&quiet, but with the further possibilty to lower the voltages - in cool&quiet (and powernow) the voltage/multi is fixed for each step, with the utility you can lower the voltage values, as you did. i think it is a success when you can lower the fan noise and get an extra battery-time without sacrificing speed.

    you have to consider, that this is the ml-version of turion - the mt should be able to handle lower vcores.

    greetings from austria and have a nice weekend,

    xmorphx
     
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    My New 5024 arrived last Friday. I like it very much. Although it is not as stylish as Sony, it is good-looking. Boot into win XP within 30 sec with no software installed yet. My problem is the side cover of the slot-loading drive comes off when the CD ejects out! It is definitely a installation problem. I am going to exchange it with my retailer next Monday. So I think the slot-loading drive would not last long. Mind this.

    The noise is OK when light work, it runs quietly. But once you exchange huge data and play games, the fan kicks in and runs for a long time (nearly non-stop..........). After hours the keyboard and 7 clock corner (HDD location) get warm but not hot.

    The turion 64 ML34 cpu lows the clock speed when you do light work, as I saw my clock speed drop to 1G sometimes.

    I wonder if anyone know that if I stall an OEM win XP pro myself and reformat the HDD to NTFS, will there be any problem? As I understand ther are 3 partitions of Acer default setting: Arcade+C+D. So I wonder that once I reformat the HDD to one single NTFS partition, will the Acer softwares and arcade work as their default partition setting or I just cannot use them anymore? Also the driver for ATI x700 and other devices? If anyone has some experience, please let me know. Thanks a lot.

    AMD-minded :)
     
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    My New 5024 arrived last Friday. I like it very much. Although it is not as stylish as Sony, it is good-looking. Boot into win XP within 30 sec with no software installed yet. My problem is the side cover of the slot-loading drive comes off when the CD ejects out! It is definitely a installation problem. I am going to exchange it with my retailer next Monday. So I think the slot-loading drive would not last long. Mind this.

    The noise is OK when light work, it runs quietly. But once you exchange huge data and play games, the fan kicks in and runs for a long time (nearly non-stop..........). After hours the keyboard and 7 clock corner (HDD location) get warm but not hot.

    The turion 64 ML34 cpu lows the clock speed when you do light work, as I saw my clock speed drop to 1G sometimes.

    I wonder if anyone know that if I stall an OEM win XP pro myself and reformat the HDD to NTFS, will there be any problem? As I understand ther are 3 partitions of Acer default setting: Arcade+C+D. So I wonder that once I reformat the HDD to one single NTFS partition, will the Acer softwares and arcade work as their default partition setting or I just cannot use them anymore? Also the driver for ATI x700 and other devices? If anyone has some experience, please let me know. Thanks a lot.

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    fidel73 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi witness11!

    Yes I did the same, after I bought the 5024. I have removed XP-home and replaced with XP-Pro. There is no problem there. I have reformated HDD (all previous partitions were removed, also the hidden recovery partition )
    You have to use the CD1 for device drivers and install it manualy when you reformat the HDD with new OS.
    Everytime you can return back and repair your disk with original software delivery (xp-home, original SW with 3 partitions included :) ) by booting from CD1. (your previous data will be lost a disk will be reformated)

    I hope I help you...
    Mark

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by witness11
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    I wonder if anyone know that if I stall an OEM win XP pro myself and reformat the HDD to NTFS, will there be any problem? As I understand ther are 3 partitions of Acer default setting: Arcade+C+D. So I wonder that once I reformat the HDD to one single NTFS partition, will the Acer softwares and arcade work as their default partition setting or I just cannot use them anymore? Also the driver for ATI x700 and other devices? If anyone has some experience, please let me know. Thanks a lot.

    AMD-minded :)
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    Hi, Thanks, Mark.[:)]

    I will do it later, as Acer have not returned my 5024 yet. The side cover of the CD-rom came off....... :( I am leaving on 18/06, hope they can get it back to me by then.

    My Memory Clock speed is also 133 MHz, how about yours. I tried to change it to 166 MHz by the utility Jos listed, but the machine just crushed and reboot.

    If anyone need a bluetooth dongle for their 5024, buy here
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44796&item=5782014927&rd=1

    I just bought one and it is surprisingly small! Only 4-5 cm.


    AMD-minded :)
     
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    fidel73 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi witness11

    My 5024WLMi has 166MHz memory clock speed. I am considering to buy 200MHz (400 DDR) 1024MB DDRAM. I hope that speed will be automaticaly set to 200MHz.
    I guess that speed is auto-detected from installed memory modules. Or you should update BIOS.

    Marek

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by witness11
    [br]Hi, Thanks, Mark.[:)]

    My Memory Clock speed is also 133 MHz, how about yours. I tried to change it to 166 MHz by the utility Jos listed, but the machine just crushed and reboot.

    AMD-minded :)
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    Fidel73 - did you ever resolve your speaker popping issue durn playback ?. I just got a new 5024 and have the same thing. also tried installing 3.73 ac97 drivers but still the same on all sound playback, very intermittent - just the odd pop now and again[?].

     
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