7700HQ vs 7820HK

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  1. DRevan

    DRevan Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hey guys!
    I am planning to buy an ASUS ROG G703VI Chimera, however ASUS Hungary is only planning to distribute the model with 7700HQ.
    With 27% tax the price of the 7700HQ model (32 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD+1TB HDD, FHD screen, 2 year warranty) costs $3740 (would cost $2730 if it would be sold in the US without this riddiculous 27% tax).

    Now the question, will a 7700HQ bottleneck the system? Will I experience stuttering in high cpu demanding games? So far I only had experience with 7820HK.

    I could order a model with the same specs, but with 7820HK and 1 year warranty (instead of 2) from HIDEvolution, however with the extra tax+shipping the price would come out to (without repaste or any extra) $4426

    I doubt $686 worth the upgrade from 7700HQ to 7820HK (+I would get half the warranty).

    What are your thoughts? Would a 7700HQ bottleneck the GTX 1080 in any game ?
    Would my gaming experience be worser with a locked CPU than with an overclocked CPU and I should wait until next year for a 7820HK model?

    Which one would you choose from the following 3? (Prices include the extra tax):

    1) G703VI: FHD screen, 256 GB SSD+1 TB HDD+16 GB RAM+7700HQ+GTX 1080, 2 yr warranty: $3360
    2) G703VI: FHD screen, 512 GB SSD+1 TB HDD+32GB RAM+7700HQ+GTX 1080, 2 yr warranty: $3740
    3) G703VI: FHD screen, 512 GB SSD+1 TB HDD+32GB RAM+7820HK+GTX 1080, 1 yr warranty: $4426


    EDIT 11/102017:
    Seems there is some controversy regarding 7700HQ vs 7820HK questions of
    1) Will it impact performance?
    2) Will it bottleneck the GTX 1080?

    Comparing Notebookcheck results for me was not really reliable, since many variables could have affected the results there.
    So I decided to take matters into my own hands :)
    I have a dekstop system with 6700K and MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (overclocked GTX 1080 in the G703VI runs about the same clocks).
    6700K luckely can be also downclocked, not just overclocked. So I have overclocked to 4.2 Ghz to bring it to overclocked 7820HK performance and downclocked to 3.4 Ghz to get stock 7700HQ performance. After that I spent the day to test some popular games and see if there is any major impact on performance.
    The system and software are the same so the mere difference were only affected by the CPU speed.
    (Interesting thing that the downclocked 6700K was recognized as a 6700 by the system)

    Here are my results:
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    All games run at the possible highest settings with the only exception of AA which was either off or FXAA. Witcher 3 had Hairworks at the highest settings.
    Unfortunately I forgot to disable V-Sync for Bioshock, so thats a fail...but it held 144 FPS both instances.
    In some games the difference was negligible, however in some CPU intensive games the difference was at least 10 FPS.
    Also, I don't know if my system did not like the underclock of was it because of CPU bottleneck, but in games like Crysis 3 and Witcher 3 there was noticable microstuttering, higher cpu clock resulted in smoother game.

    What are your thoughts, could the "microstuttering" be caused because of cpu bottleneck or was it probably because the game did not like the underclock from stock settings ?
     
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  2. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    Wow! 4426 usd for that totally soldered and overpriced asus crap. That's incredible :D

    You should use the FORM
     
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  3. Danishblunt

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    The 7700HQ won't bottleneck anything. All good to go.
    When you get the notebook, could you post some benchmarks later on? I'm interested in the GPU performance.
     
  4. Vistar Shook

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    In some countries, like Brazil where I am from, sometimes it is cheaper to fly to the US and buy a laptop than purchasing locally....In my case my Dad lives in the US so I visit him a couple of times a year. Crazy taxes I know, especially considering the poor government services offered in return. My issue, is the risks going through customs in Brazil.
     
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    7700HQ will bottleneck the ability to push 144 FPS to match the refresh rate. That being said the whole 144 Hz thing is selling you snake oil. Absolutely no noticeable difference over 120 Hz. The next "noticeable" difference is 165 Hz (Not a very large notable difference)

    What i am trying to say is that if you can find a 120 Hz laptop with GTX 1080 for less; it may be a better option
     
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    Actually another ASUS laptop got released today here, the GL702VI. it has 7700HQ+GTX 1080 and 120 hz IPS panel. However it actually costs $370 USD more than the G703VI.
    Only other option for 120 Hz+GTX 1080 would be the GT75VR, but that costs $800 more.
     
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  7. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    Check for a p870tm from dreammachines. That is a polish clevo reseller and prema partner
     
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    They don't have door to door warranty for international orders so if I want warranty, I have to pay $180 shipping each time...that is a no go for me.
     
  9. DRevan

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    Are you sure about that bottleneck ? I checked out some gaming videos with 7700HQ and none of them were hitting 100% cpu usage.
     
  10. Spartan

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    you're buying an ASUS now?

    return/refund claim in-coming in 3....2....1
     
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