512 nvme or m.2 1tb ssd

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  1. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Hey boys and girls.

    Tough call for me here. So I want to defer to the professionals. Chime in, or feel free to comment on which you'd choose - help me make up my mind before I go for a clean install.

    Basically have a notebook on it's way that I will mostly be using for photography as a hobby and light editing.
    To my surprise it came with a 512gb 961 nvme. I was planning to use a 1tb mx300 m.2 I had lying around to good use.

    I'll be shooting in RAW so space might get eaten quick with only 512gb on the nvme- so 1tb on the Sata M.2 would be preferable. However, I'd appreciate being able to view back pictures and enjoy a low response times - I'm just not sure if the benefits of a 961 come into play here or not.
    If there's no real difference in performance for such a light work load with the notebook having a i7-7500U CPU then it's pretty clear which way I should go.

    From experience I've historically not noticed much difference if any in NVME vs SSD Sata for OS snappiness / Gaming, however have never taken note in the context of simple photo viewing / light editing.

    Like I said, tough call. Thanks in advance for your replies.
     
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  2. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Prophet

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    For short burst disk IO NVMe is the best because you want to transfer/copy as fast as you can.
    The downside I noticed on MVMe is the temps. NVMe and M.2 SATA are 10C apart. So m.2 SATA will be cooler when you are transferring massive files for longer duration.
    For light editing you won't notice any difference in PM961 and MX300.
     
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  3. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Thanks for your reply. It's mainly for read performance. I don't mind about big transfers or even small ones. Mainly just being able to open and view images nice and snappy.
     
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    For Reads NVMe simply wins hands down. For writes I'd still go for MX300.
     
  5. TBoneSan

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    Yeah it's such a tough call. I might just have to do a clean install on each drive and see if my experience is lackluster going from a NVMe to a Sata 3.
     
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    Phoenix Super Tweaker

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    If that was my taptop and I had to choose only one, I'd go for the bigger SSD any time of the day. Plus the SATA SSDs boot much faster as they don't require the NVMe controller to be initialized during boot up. The difference you will experience cannot be noticed other than in benchmarks. These days, all SSDs are snappy enough IMO. I know it's a very tough call but if it was only 1 to choose out of the two, I'd go for the bigger SSD every time. those raw videos/photos will eat up your space like nobody's business.
     
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    So explains the increased boot time. In task manager it shows 6 seconds.
    On Linux I use SATA SSD boots everything in 3 seconds.
     
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    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    I wonder if the boot times are related to the installed CPU?

    For example, I'm now using an i7-7820x (28 PCIe lanes) and using the two M.2 NVMe's tied directly to the CPU. Boot loader runs in about 1 second, and choosing an OS is about 2 seconds until log in on Windows or Linux.
     
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  9. BeastsForever.TheDragon

    BeastsForever.TheDragon Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, it hardly depends on cpu,(as far as its not too old).
    Even the crapiest CURRENT gen cpu will boot fast AH.
     
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    Yes they are fast, but I was really getting at the CPUs / Chipsets which tie NVMe PCIe lanes directly to the CPU. This is what is kicking so much a##. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but at this time, only mobos and cpus on the x299 and z370 chipset allow NVMe to bypass the PCH.
     
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