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15" to 17" Ultrabook with SSD drive

Discussion in 'What Notebook Should I Buy?' started by QuietReliable, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. QuietReliable

    QuietReliable Notebook Enthusiast

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    Which 15" to 17" display notebooks have an SSD, 15 to 17" display and are fast, reliable (not hot) and silent?

    Priorities:
    A) Reliable, long lifetime.
    B) Quiet, silent.
    C) Not Hot, Cool to warm (less than 35 degrees CPU without external cooling under or behind notebook)
    D) SSD internal drive.
    E) 15" to 17" display, LED truly backlight (not around display edge or perimeter)
    F) Fast quad core.
    G) Not heavy (ideally 3.5 to 6 lbs)

    An Ultrabook would be ideal, but who makes one with a 15 to 17" display?

    Forum question answers:
    2) What size notebook would you prefer?
    Mainstream; 15" - 16" screen, but thin, light, reliable & quiet.
    or
    Desktop Replacement; 17"+ screen, but thin, light, reliable & quiet.
    4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?
    a. Like: ASUS, Toshiba, Sony for cool, reliable and quiet.
    b. Dislike:
    Apple OS won't work for needed engineering applications.
    Gateway, Acer, Dell, and now HP and Lenovo have poorer reliability.
    I'm concerned about reliability of game notebooks that run hot, like Clevo and Sager.
    5) Would you consider laptops that are refurbished/redistributed?
    redistributed, not refurbished.
    6) What are the primary tasks will you be performing with this notebook?
    engineering, video playback, very hi-fi audio.
    7) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places, leaving it on your desk or both?
    Both.
    8) Will you be playing games on your notebook? If so, please state which games or types of games?
    No.
    9) How many hours of battery life do you need?
    ideally 8 hours, but is 4 to 6 obtainable?
    11) What OS do you prefer?
    Windows 7 for this application.
    12) Screen Specifics:
    Resolution depends on screen diameter of notebook.
    Need external display minimum resolution of 1920x1080.
    13) Matte / non-glossy screen.
    14) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?
    No, prefer plain.
    15) When are you buying this laptop?
    soon, within 1 to 3 weeks
    16) How long do you want this laptop to last?
    8 years.
    17) How much hard drive space do you need;
    Internal: 120 to 300 GB internal SSD.
    External or possibly Internal: 500GB to 1 TB 7200 RPM (or faster?) mechanical drive.
    18) Do you need an optical drive?
    External CDRW/DVD-ROM, with DVD Burner & Blu-Ray reader is needed
    possibly Blu-Ray writer if affordable.

    Thanks for your thoughts.
     
  2. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    Basically the lightest you can get in a 15-incher is the 4.4lb Sony Vaio SE.

    It's got a 15.5" 1920x1080 IPS display, which is certainly one of the better screens available right now.

    Disadvantages:
    - Not quad-core
    - Audio quality isn't great.
     
  3. QuietReliable

    QuietReliable Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the good suggestion; below is another.

    Sony 16" display with SSD:
    Sony's F Series (VPCF2390X CTO) is customizable with 500 GB of SSD with a 16" display. When will they make a version with 120 GB to 250 GB solid state storage to bring the price down, with more storage on a rotating disk drive?
     
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    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    Except the Vaio F isn't light at all.
     
  5. QuietReliable

    QuietReliable Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes, the Sony VAIO SE is lighter, although I'd like to have a 16" to 17" screen. Can you point to a Sony (or other) web site where you can configure it with SSD (solid state disk) and buy the VAIO SE?
     
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    Dramacydal Notebook Guru

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    Samsung 7 series in what you need!
     
  7. QuietReliable

    QuietReliable Notebook Enthusiast

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    edit1754 had the best recommendation to date, Sony VAIO SE, if you don't need a 17" display. Their model VPCSE190X CTO is customizable to include 2 SSDs. Can anyone comment on:

    1. Reliability of Sony's SSDs?
    2. The reported fan noise problem as they spin up and down in Sony laptops.
     
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    QuietReliable Notebook Enthusiast

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    The only SSD drives I could find in Samsung 7 Series were hybrids (i.e. with small SSD portions).
     
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    where is info in this unit with an IPS screen. all literature shows it just as an LED backlight HD screen?
     
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    moralar Notebook Geek

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    Even if one assumes it's not IPS, it has viewing angles that are competitive with IPS and a good contrast ratio; however, color quality is rather poor compared to good desktop IPS displays, and has me considering returning mine. If orange is your favorite color, though, you'll love it. Link1 and Link2
     
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    Ok so it is just another TN screen like the SA I had for a week. I didnt find the viewing angles all that exciting though 60-70 degrees horoz 40-50 vertical
     
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    QuietReliable Notebook Enthusiast

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    Since solid state drive (SSD) lifetime is reduced by excessive writing, how does the Sony VAIO SE, when configured from the factory with a Blu-ray drive, 2 SSD drives and no rotating hard drive, play video without dramatically reducing the reliablity of the SSD? Sony's web site won't allow both SSD and rotating hard drive to be selected. Video caching must take place through the SSD, resulting in excessive writing to the SSD. Which SSD is Sony using? Intel's more reliable 710 series of SSD is priced for the enterprise market, not consumers.
     
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    QuietReliable Notebook Enthusiast

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    "Since solid state drive (SSD) lifetime is reduced by excessive writing, how does the Sony VAIO SE, when configured from the factory with a Blu-ray drive, 2 SSD drives and no rotating hard drive, play video without dramatically reducing the reliablity of the SSD? Sony's web site won't allow both SSD and rotating hard drive to be selected. Video caching must take place through the SSD, resulting in excessive writing to the SSD. Which SSD is Sony using? Intel's more reliable 710 series of SSD is priced for the enterprise market, not consumers."

    Anand Lal Shimpi's video clip on SSDs is particularly informative (click on comments at the end of his article).

    AnandTech - The Intel SSD 710 (200GB) Review

    Do the Sony VAIO SE (e.g. VPCSE190X CTO) and other notebooks configured without a rotating hard drive, with only SSD, use Samsung's 830 SSD? Isn't Samsung's 830 SSD reliability comparable to Intel's 510 series, rather than Intel's more reliable and very expensive 710 series?
     

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