15 or smaller laptop with upgradeable CPU and GPU (used)

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  1. BadPlayer

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    Hi
    I'm looking for a (used) laptop with 15(15,6) "screen or smaller and as compact as possible
    Laptop must have replaceable CPU (not soldered) and GPU (MXM 3.0 B), i know the problems with upgrad but other laptops are not considered
    I'm interested in models from the last 5 years (starting from 2012)
    I would like to also install Windows XP as the second operating system - needed for old software (+ Win 7)

    Models I know about:
    Clevo (Sager) P150 HM / EM / PM / SM / ... (can anyone explain the differences between these models)
    I know someone who installed Win XP on a similar model:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...inxp-on-the-sager-np9170-clevo-p170em.679991/

    MSI GT60, MSI GT680, MSI GT683, MSI GX660, GT660, GT663 - do these laptops have soldered CPUs?

    DELL PRECISION M4600, M4700, M4800 - unfortunately with MXM 3.0 A, (socet CPU-?)

    Alienware X15, X15 R1 / R2/... new Alienware 15 has soldered CPU?

    HP 8560w, HP Zbook 15 G1 -MXM type A, not soldered CPU (?)

    Asus G series has its own incompatible MXM standard, is there any 15 "model with MXM 3.0B?


    ACER, Lenovo, Toshiba, Samsung and others?
    and laptops with <15 "screen?



    Which of these laptops + power adapter weighs the least? If anyone knows?



    ps:
    There are also new expensive laptops (do not know how with the CPU?):
    DELL Precision m7510 and DELL Precision m7520 (no DVD drive)
    CLEVO P750DM
    HP Z Series G3 15 and HP Zbook G4 15
    MSI 16L13


    if you know any other options plz share!
     
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  2. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/successful-mxm-gpu-upgraded-laptops.805136/

    GPU upgradeable old laptops

    Acer
    Acer laptops http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/acer-mxm-models-and-cards.396320/

    Alienware
    -m15x
    -17 r1
    -m17x r2
    -m17x r3
    -m17x r4
    -17 r5
    -m18x r1
    -m18x r2
    -18 r3

    Clevo
    -p150em
    -p170em
    -p370em
    -p150sm
    -p170sm
    -p370sm
    -p375sm
    -p750dm
    -p770dm
    -p775dm
    -p870dm

    Dell
    -Precision M6700
    -Precision M6800

    Hp
    -8570w
    -8770w
    -Zbook G1 17
    -Zbook G2 17

    MSI
    -16L1
    -gt60
    -gt70
    -gt72s
    -gt80s

    GPU upgradeable new laptops


    Clevo
    -p750dm2
    -p751dm2
    -p775dm3
    -p870km
    -p870km1
    -p870dm2
    -p870dm3

    Dell
    -Precision m7510
    -Precision m7520
    -Precision m7710
    -Precision m7720

    Fujitsu
    -Celsius h970

    Hp
    -Zbook G3 15
    -Zbook G3 17
    -Zbook G4 15
    -Zbook G4 17

    Lenovo
    -Thinkpad P70
    -Thinkpad P71

    MSI
    -16L13/tornado F5
    -gt62vr 6rd
    -gt62vr 6re
    -gt62vr 7rd
    -gt62vr 7re
    -gt72vr 6rd
    -gt72vr 6re
    -gt72vr 7rd
    -gt72vr 7re
    -gt73vr 6re
    -gt73vr 6rf
    -gt73vr 7re
    -gt73vr 7rf
    -gt83vr 6re
    -gt83vr 6rf
    -gt83vr 7re
    -gt83vr 7rf
     
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    thx for fast reply
    but i know about those list, but there is no info about CPU (is it soldered?) and type of MXM slot 3.0, A or B ,

    anybody can tell the diferenc betwen Clevo P150 models: HM, PM, EM, SM especially which of them work with most GPU models

    Do MSI laptops (GT60, GT680, GT683, GX660, GT660, GT663) are smaller or biger than P150 ?
     
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  4. sicily428

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    you could search infos in a lot of notebookcheck reviews.

    example p150em

    you need to check laptop tech specifications where there is also the cpu name after that you can search it with the intel data base.


    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Schenker-XMG-P502-PRO-Clevo-P150EM-Notebook.72895.0.html
    Processor
    Intel Core i7-2670QM 2.2 GHz (Intel Core i7)
    Graphics adapter
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M - 2048 MB, Core: 620 MHz, Memory: 1500 MHz, GDDR5 VRAM, 295.62

    BGA= soldered
    PGA=socketed
    LGA=socketed

    http://ark.intel.com/products/53469/Intel-Core-i7-2670QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz

    FCPGA988

    make the same with that gpu
    https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/343/geforce-gtx-675m

    MXM-B (3.0)


    this is a list of new laptops with desktop cpus inside:
    -n350dw 15" igpu
    -n650du 15" igpu
    -w650kj1 15" gtx1050
    -w650kk1 15" gtx1050ti
    -n850kp6 15" gtx1060
    -p750dm2 15" gtx1060 mxm
    -p750dm2 15" gtx1070 mxm
    -p775dm3 17" gtx1060 mxm
    -p775dm3 17" gtx1070 mxm
    -p775dm3 17" gtx1080 mxm
    -p870km 17" gtx1070 sli mxm
    -p870km1 17" gtx1080 sli mxm
     
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    The HM is 2nd gen, EM 3rd, SM 4th. They are all mostly the same physically with some differences as ports were changed around, and of course the boards the different. All of those have socketed mobile CPUs. CPUs are generally not upgradable beyond the gen the laptop has.

    The only socketed CPUs since 4th gen are desktop CPUs, and very few laptops have them.

    For GPUs it's more than just the socket standard. Using an AW card in a Clevo won't necessarily work for instance even with the same socket. Also, there are power limitations, whitelisting etc. There may need to be some modding to get newer cards to work in an older laptop. The only way is to look at each individual model as there is no answer that covers everything.
     
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    sicily428 and Tmets big thanks for your answers
    especialy for clearying out the Clevo P150 model diferences
    just like I writed in 1-st post: ''i know the problems with upgrad but other laptops are not considered"
    but can you tell me this
    if i have newest (for example gtx1060) MXM 3.0B gpu that i know it will work with Clevo, will it work with oldest (PM or HM) p150 and also with newest SM ??


    anybody heard of 13'' or 14'' Clevo or Sager laptop with MXM GPU (probably based on a p150 board) or its just my bad memory/wrong info ?
     
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    -p150em with MSI Gtx1060 http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4840318726

    I don't know if p150sm works with gtx1060
     
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    No, never existed. The point of 13" or 14" is portability. The addition of the bulk of MXM would make it pointless.

    As for specific questions about compatibility, it's better asked in the manufacturer sub-forums.
     
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