1 Year To Go for Windows 7

Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by KING19, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Notebook Consultant

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    Great point Raiderman. Although win7 driver incompatibility may spur some cottage, hacked-driver, type industry to reconfig chipset drivers or whatnot for win7 (wishful thinking perhaps). In the meantime I'll keep trying to better my Linux chops -no way will I go to win10, even w/ tools like O & O shutup & their like. MS's win10 EULA agreement is utter nonsense, as we all know. It's like MS and their win10 OS is from a company based in China, or former USSR. People in the US are blindly giving away their privacy rights daily... all my friends and colleagues abroad are like "wtf are you guys doing in america w/ your apathy towards online Privacy?". Sad.
     
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    For me, its the lack of complete control over the software that is running on MY hardware. With Windows 7 I can take ownership of just about any file or folder in the entire OS. Windows 10 has digitally signed many files, which once tampered with, breaks the OS. The version of crap that I am running, is probably the best of them all, being enterprise LTSC. It is still an unfinished, awkward to use,and a hot mess of sh*t. Metro apps that are hard coded, with the mix of "pure" windows apps makes redundancy the norm. Does the cortana and win 10 mobile failures mean that they can finally lose the god awful tiles, and metro bs? The notification center is kind of a somewhat nice idea, but action center of windows 7 could have been tweaked to do the same thing.
    There is absolutely nothing it does better, or more efficient than windows 7. It actually feels slower in many aspects, just using the OS
     
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    Thats my fear of using Windows 10, Its like we have no choice but to accept all the issues with the OS with no say in the matter, the forced Windows updates and the amount telemetry included in the OS is already bad enough. It doesnt matter how may people complain about it Microsoft will just do the opposite since they dont listen to customer feedback. Sadly Windows 10 will soon be only supported OS and users and especially businesses will have no choice but to upgrade or risk their systems of being hacked/infected with malware.

    Sadly majority of people in this world dont care about privacy. Companies like Google and Apple already knows everything about you. VPNs can only do so much but not everything you want them to do
     
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    Yup. +1 on Raiderman's noting Win7 stability. Id forgotten to mention that in my previous post. I worked with win10 for only a few months back in 2015, couldn't stand its instability (esp. back then) and fastly switched all my machines back to win7. Now w/ all the Processor patches entering the mix, even more instability & guesswork. I work w/ win10 when I help people out w/ their systems, but still can't see much advantage to win10 (unless you're a gamer, which I'm not). Funny though -so many people I know using win10 like it at first, but eventually complain after a few months "my system seems to be running so slow" (same folks who never look at their Services or Task Manager, general bloat).
    Privacy is huge to me, in principle, not b/c I need to be Secret Squirrel. I've requested device profiles from a handful of old email providers, and web service providers. It's F*ing disgusting how much data is logged anymore. (and I'm careful about it). VPNs, Spoofing MAC addresses, Pi-Holes, DNS configs, Tor (if you have the patience for it), are becoming a must. I'm always shocked when people say "I don't care, I have nothing to hide" (obv. not the point in preserving privacy, civil liberties, freedom of speech,et). Sorry if I just ranted! :) Give it away give it away give it away now
     
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    Once Windows becomes a service, is when I will no longer use it as my main OS. We have lost control of technology, as we have embraced it so much, that is has become nothing more than an advertising platform. Its a way for Microsoft, google, and apple to sell you goods and services, and nothing more. Productivity, and creativeness are just a side effect of previous versions of the said software. Bottom line is they dont care now how productive you can be, as long as they can push ads for products to your desktop or your phone.
     
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    Great post, so true. Bottom line is all MS cares about is their Corporate Ledger's bottom line. My hope is that MS's blatant disregard & lack of respect for their users best interests results in the Windows OS market share diminishing to a pittance. Perhaps they would then change their tune, albeit likely too late. My hunch is as more and more of the market becomes Linux OS savvy, and further realizing the appeal of open-source, Linux distros subsequent growth will make for increasingly user-friendly, diverse, productive OS's that makes Windows & OS X pale by comparison.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Good, hopefully afterwards no more telementry, malware craps comes either.
     
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    I have not been able to install windows 7 on my threadripper machine since they updated the agesa code/bios (it didnt state anything about not being able to install windows 7). I have a asus zenith extreme board and a 1950x at 4ghz all cores 128gb ram at 2933mhz and a 2080 ti (manually OCed 2070mhz core and 8350mhz memory stable). I get to where windows finishes installing and then it freezes at the windows loading windows screen. It does login but it stays in the black screen with the windows windows on it. anybody know how to get passed that. ive tried everything in the bios @Mr. Fox and i also tried all different ways of install from the dvd to usb 2.0 and 3.0 gpt and ntfs thru rufus
     
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    Oh man, I can empathize!! Did everything imaginable. I gave up on that machine (was helping a friend). Need to look into this more. See this post, same thing. Lets rap about this if you have time -it blew my mind as everything and anything I tried wound-up in a 'boot loop'. I think I used an old UpdatePack7R2 from Dec 2017 (I save them on a flash) and then turned off Updates until I can get over there again.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/posts/10852606/

    *Edit. My colleague's machine was a Factory win10 installed HP 750-114. USB 3.0 drivers had to be mounted on iso. HP support Manual said it was win7 eligible. Hmm, I did update its BIOS to its most recent, March 2018+/-(going from memory -too lazy to look up specs). Also HP drivers/support page didnt say anything about win7 ineligibility. Try reformatting (long) your Install Drive (I think I had that problem too -reformatted, worked after). My problem seemed Simplix specific, but maybe BIOS?
     
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