1.8" ZIF PATA SSDs available

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  1. master blaster

    master blaster Newbie

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    Color coded value recommendations: COL=high performance COL=balanced battery life & performance. COL=great all round value.

    Ranked by 4kb random read speeds. ​

    1.8" ZIF drive
    +order link​
    Controller+stp^1
    Price $US
    32,64,128GB​
    Perf.UDMA5
    Win7
    trim
    low
    pwr
    Notes​
    4kb
    seq
    Mtron Mobi 3000.SLCMtron200,000,0002883/74
    n/a​
    no​
    Review. 64GB never made.
    Renice K3VLAR &Indilinx BF+Marvell...2288/75
    yes​
    no​
    Review. +fast, -runs hot, -discontinued
    Runcore Pro IV &Indilinx BF+Jmicron
    Indilinx BF+Marvell
    070,110,2102183/76
    yes​
    no​
    Review. +fast, -runs hot, -Jmicron version less compatible.
    Sabertooth ZTIndilinx BF+??170,290,0002?8?/7?
    yes​
    no​
    Hana Micron ForteIndilinx BF+??...1792/61
    yes​
    no​
    Bench. SLC variants. Asia only.
    Photofast GMonster.V3Indilinx.BF+Sunplus...1786/56
    yes​
    no​
    Bench.
    Intel X18M G2Intel+DIY.US$20000,120,0001589/66
    yes​
    no​
    Bench/review. low power.
    Renice K3VLAR-E &EastWho EWS720110,140,2801591/75
    no​
    yes​
    Review-120GB+60GB.
    Photofast GMonster.V4EastWho EWS720099,149,2991591/73
    no​
    yes​
    Review-120GB. SLC variants.
    Mach Xtreme MX-NanoEastWho EWS720089,115,2401389/61
    no​
    yes​
    Problematic. Bench-120GB &. US/EU/JP/AU orders.
    SuperTalent ZT2 &Eastwho EWS720075,125,2251389/30
    no​
    yes​
    Bench-60GB, comment &.
    Sabertooth ZFEastwho EWS720090,140--
    no​
    yes​
    -
    Solidata Z6Eastwho EWS720000,200,330????/7?
    yes​
    no​
    There's also a Indilinx Z6.
    Sandisk UATA 5000Sandisk?...1564/28
    no​
    yes
    Bench &.
    Samsung 100/80 MLCSamsung+DIY.US$20...1483/56
    no​
    noBench/pics.
    SuperTalent GF &SM2233G074,107,1931380/40
    no​
    no​
    Poor performance.
    KingspecSM2233G054,079,1421380/45
    no​
    no​
    Review/Bench.
    Sabertooth Z4SM2233G079,120,2401380/38
    no​
    no​
    GMonsterV2SM2233G...1276/35
    no​
    no​
    Bench.
    Samsung ZIFSamsung...
    1356/33
    no​
    yes​
    Bench.
    Runcore Pro 1.8" JMF602?...1063/63
    no​
    no​
    Bench.
    5400rpm HDD (up to 240GB!)PATA...035/35
    no​
    no​
    Bench. 240GB 4k sector issue, fix, non-issue.
    4200rpm HDDPATA...024/23
    no​
    no​
    Bench.
    Comparative: 2.5" sata SSD with stp
    Mtron 3500.SLC-sataMtron-1984/56
    n/a​
    no​
    Bench.
    OCZ Vertex 60GBIndilinx BF-1888/66
    yes​
    no​
    Bench with Marvell stp caddy.
    Crucial M4Marvell 9174-1690/69
    yes​
    no​
    Bench.
    Runcore Pro IV SATAIndilinx BF-1584/65
    yes​
    no​
    Bench from here with Jmicron STP
    Intel SATA X25M G2Intel-1589/56
    yes​
    no​
    Bench-Marvell. Bench-Sony.
    Kingston SSDNow V+100Tosh T6UG1XBG-1388/61
    yes​
    no​
    Bench-Marvell.
    Samsung SATA mlc/slcSamsung-1068/55
    no​
    no​
    Bench with Sony stp.

    Explanatory notes:
    • 000: not available
    • ...: discontinued or not sold in American markets. Can check eBay for used units.
    • n/a: SLC SSDs do not require TRIM.
    • ^1 Requires a sata-to-pata (STP) adapter. Example: DIY solution. As a comparison, sata-to-pata bridge in optical drive bay adapter measured here found to add 0.8-1W overhead to do the translation. DIY may be lower since it doesn't need to do 5V to 3.3V voltage regulation and conversion.
    • UDMA5 has max 100MB/s read and 88.9MB/s write speed


    Notes
    1. Some SSDs don't have TRIM support.Use Tony Trim to help GC along. Note: XP/VISTA doesn't support TRIM. Only Win7 and up does.

    2. flashfire accelerator increases small file writes on older or Jmicron SSDs.

    3. To use a ZIF SSD in a 2.5" sata system, order a shipped adapter.

    4. Seeing <30 sequential writes? See explanation and workaround for ICH8M and ICH7M.

    5. The ZIF PATA interface provides no AHCI NCQ, so streaming multiple reads/writes cannot occur in parallel. This means that ZIF SSD work best with an optimized SSD controller for single queuing. For example, for sata AHCI interface, Intel 1x25m G2 has faster 4 kb multithreaded read performance than an SSD based on Indilinx, but when using the pata interface (queue = 1) an Indilinx SSD can have faster 4 kb multithreaded read performance. Some example Benchs here.

    6. There are other options if you have a PATA optical drive. In this case, you could apply the following: DIY: Adding SSD or HDD storage using an optical bay caddy using a 2.5" SATA SSD/HDD.

    7. http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...rives-wanting-sata-16.html#post8240199"]US$20 microsata-to-ZIF adapter, de-shelling and soldering.

    8. sata-to-pata bridge user review - Sunplus (Newmodeus) and Marvell (eBay) and another.

    Please post any new ZIF details/benchmarks so theycan be include in the table above.
     
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  2. tinyEEEpc

    tinyEEEpc Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks for posting this.

    i'll be receiving my 32gb mtron zif ssd this week and will run some benchmarks on a dell d430.

    looking at the chart the best value seems to be the k3vlar @ $120 from mydigitaldiscount. The mtron is available on ebay for around $150. I didn't even know about the k3vlar drive until I saw your chart. do you think the mtron is worth a $30 premium?
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Mtron has SLC longevity and great speed, but is only 32GB. The K3VLAR and Nano is recommended. Nano order details as supplied by manufacturer below. Renice will be releasing an equivalent EWS720 product as well. The EWS720 SSDs offering the best balance of battery life and performance imho.

    Mach Xtreme MX-Nano 64GB ZIF SSD ordering details

     
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    moved from here:

    Marvell sata-to-pata bridge is what I'd be going for if going an Indilinx solution. It's faster and more compatible than the jmicron based ProIV. The other Indilinx Solidata and Sabertooth products make no mention of what stp bridge they use.

    My suggestion? A EWS720-based Renice product will soon be sold via MyDigitalDiscount (MDD), a reputable US company. MDD back their products with a return/refund policy if it's not up to scratch.

    The EWS720-based ZIF SSDs giving the best balance of performance and battery life, with GC but no trim. The Indilinx product is the higher performer, with higher power consumption, with GC and trim. I've used both and admittedly it was hard to notice the higher performance of the Indilinx product. What I did notice was the longer battery life and cooler running temps the EWS720-based V4 offered. I guess it comes down to which criteria are important to you.
     
  5. flatsix911

    flatsix911 Notebook Evangelist

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    Has anyone used a Runcore ProIV ZIF SSD in a Lattitude D430 notebook?
    I have searched for confirmation ... thanks
     
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    Funny how you've posted the details for Mach Xtreme - I literally just bought one of their 1.8 inch SSDs (50 Pin PATA for Fujitsu P1510, what a PITA to locate).

    I had some back and forth communication with their sales team from October 29th to November 3rd, had the drive shipped out via EMS on Nov 3, arrived in Vancouver Canada Nov 9, stuck in customs for 3 days and finally delivered to my house just this morning.

    Haven't had a chance to install it, probably won't for a little while. Probably sound like a shill with my first post, but perhaps my username still pops up in Google cache over at LeoG's old Fujitsu P series forums
     
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    flatsix911 Notebook Evangelist

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    Still looking for some feedback on these questions ... Thanks :)


    • Best ZIF SSD for a notebook?
    • Success with a Dell Latitude D430?
    • Clone or fresh install of the Win 7 OS?
     
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    Best ZIF SSDs are the K3VLAR and EWS720 units, depending on your preference for outright speed or balanced speed/battery life respectively. K3VLAR with the advantage of Win7 TRIM support to maintain write speed.

    D430 uses a ICH8M chipset, same as my 2510P but with the simpler single master device on the channel setup. It will work without issue.

    A fresh Win7 install ensures the partitions are aligned to NAND page block size offsets for maximum performance.
     
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    Mtron 32gb ssd zif. D430 @ udma5

    Not sure why the bad write speeds. I tried editing with baredit (both 1033 and 3033 but still same results. 1033 did get me to 45 once).
     

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    flatsix911 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for posting your benchmark resuts.

    Any idea if the KingSpec or Super Talent drives on Ebay are compatibile with the Dell D430?
     
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