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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    Quote Originally Posted by matt5784 View Post
    I may have been thinking the Blade was slightly thicker and heavier than those specs posted above, but I was mostly referring to the Alienware 14" (whatever it is named now) with my post. I'll admit, those specs for the Blade don't sound too bad but given the heat issues I've heard about it's hard to say they truly succeeded. Yes, the Alienware is a lot thicker, but at least it has adequate cooling...
    The Alienware 14 is indeed a beast of a 14-incher. I don't have the specs right in front of me, but I think it's about twice as thick as the Blade, maybe even more.
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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitlov View Post
    I didn't mean my post to have a snarky tone, but reading it again, it does. My apologies. And I don't keep track of who owns what on this forum.

    Have you made any changes at all to the default settings for the trackpoint? I find that it oftentimes jerks off an icon right after I've rolled over to it...it's like the mere act of lifting my finger off the nubbin to click makes the cursor move an icon-width. It's worse for me than the worst PC trackpad I've ever used, and that's saying a lot.
    I didn't take it as snarky. I genuinely love that optical trackpoint.

    I'll have to look, but i don't think i changed anything. Mine doesn't drift. Guess I just work it in a way where my moving doesn't cause additional things to happen.

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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    I've discovered that unfortunately the 11 inch model will have Celeron (and possibly a Bay Trail version), so no Z sucessor for now.


    SONY VAIO FIT 11A MULTI-FLIP PC 11.6 POLLICI CON INTEL CELERON QUAD-CORE

    (Google translate from Notebook Italia)

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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    I'm also a big fan of the optical trackpoint on the Duo 11, though I think that's partly because it comes with physical left/right/middle buttons.

    I set the acceleration to max and the pointer speed at ~75%. That way I can flick around the screen pretty quickly, without having the issue you talk about that the pointer jumps when you move your finger away from the pointer. I also turned off "tapping".
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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    Quote Originally Posted by anytimer View Post
    dGPUs have non-gaming uses as well. The parallel processing capabilities are being put to use in many programs (where they outshine conventional CPUs). In addition to 3D CAD (where a dGPU is practically a must) applications like graphics, math and simulation, video transcoding, etc. also benefit.

    The Razer Blade 14" is heavier than a typical Z, firstly because it is aluminium, like the Macs and secondly because of the massive battery, which, unlike the Z, allows several hours of gaming on battery. But to say it is not portable is a bit harsh, in my opinion. Here are the specs:
    Width: 13.6” / 345mm
    Depth: 9.3" / 235mm
    Height: 0.66"/ 16.8mm
    Weight: 4.1 lbs / 1.88kg
    See more at: Razer Blade: The World's Thinnest Gaming Laptop - Razer United States

    The only other things not to like are:
    1. the TN screen (Razer CEO explained why they chose that over IPS)
    2. the 1600x900 resolution
    3. the lack of ports - just 3 USB and 1 HDMI

    Admittedly, some or all of the above are deal breakers for many people, but you have to give them kudos for putting together such an outstanding thermal solution. Full performance (on battery too) without throttling or overheating. It is a genuine desktop replacement.

    No flip, but give them time. These guys are nuts.
    Yeah, aside from screen (too poor especially for its price) and battery life, Razor Blade is s pretty impressive laptop. (Alienware 14, on the other hand, is what I'd call an impressively stupid laptop -- what's the point of having small screen if it is so bulky anyway? Just get Samsung Series 7 instead -- but you cannot expect anything else from Alienware). Unlike other "gaming" laptop, you can probably take it to serious occasions without embarrassing yourself, too. It is battery life is less than desirable, though it is expected for its high idle power usage -- which is why you don't want quad-core, full-power CPUs in laptops that are meant to be portable.

    I also think some of you have too high hope in i7-4558U. Remember that Iris 5000 is limited by TDP (that is why no one except Apple uses it, aside from customized Vaio Duo 13 which can use uTDP), where as 5200 is limited by bandwidth. Although 4558U has 13 extra watts to play with, it also has higher voltage CPU -- I am not sure if 5100 actually has enough juice to use its full power, especially when CPU is also under full load. And even if it can get enough power, it is still limited by its bandwidth (when some people complain about 64bit interface of 735.....). Theoretical peak frequency under turboboost are not that different between 4500 and 4558 -- obviously, 4558 is going to be faster in CPU-heavy applications, but the difference would not be very large. And for gaming, 4500 (with dGPU) with adequate cooling solution doesn't have to share power with its GPU, So, there are good reasons why many companies opted for 4500 with optional dGPU.

    However, I'd love to see i7-4650 with uTDP options on 13/14 inch flips, though.

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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    Here are some models and official specs with suggested prices for some European Models:

    VAIO Fit 13A - SVF13N1L2ES
    VAIO Fit 13A - SVF13N1Y9ES
    VAIO Fit 15A - SVF15N1S2ES
    VAIO Fit 15A - SVF15N1Z2EB

    edit:
    The promotional webpage is now up on Sony.de.
    So far the letter U is next to every model's CPU and the only NVIDIA I see is the awful 735M. Both very bad news for me and my needs
    Such an amazing design and innovation, qHD stunning screen, 512 SSD and 16GB RAM out of the box, with ULV CPU and so weak GPU.... Its a shame and pity especially for the 1500Euro/2000USD 15'' variant, especially when the current generation of VAIO Fit, available before the summer comes with NVIDIA 740M options.

    I am crossing my fingers that some markets will get extra models, maybe customised options. They really have no excuses.
    Last edited by nMIK-3; 10th September 2013 at 04:24 PM.

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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    Quote Originally Posted by nMIK-3 View Post
    Here are some models and official specs with suggested prices for some European Models:

    [...]

    While looking at these pdf files I noticed that their address has a progressive number at the end, so by changing it I found the specs of the other Flips and of the Tap 11s. Here are the links and some observations:


    Flip:

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264514
    SVF13N1J2ES - Silver Flip 13 with i3, 4GB, 128GB. €1000

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264515
    SVF13N1L2ES - Silver Flip 13 with i5, 8GB, 128GB. €1200

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264516
    SVF13N1Y9ES - Silver Flip 13 with i7, 8GB, 256GB, Mini wifi router + HDMI to VGA. €1500

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264517
    SVF15N1E2ES - Silver Flip 15 with Pentium 3556U, 4GB, 500+8GB. €800

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264518
    SVF15N1L2ES - Silver Flip 15 with i5, 4GB, 500+8GB. €1000

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264519
    SVF15N1S2ES - Silver Flip 15 with i5, 8GB, 1000+16GB, GT735M. €1200

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264520
    SVF15N1X2EB - Black Flip 15 with Same as above + "Super Hi-Res" panel. €1300

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264521
    SVF15N1Z2EB - Black Flip 15 with i7, 12GB, 1000+16GB, GT735M, "Super Hi-Res" panel. From the picture it sems to be the only 15 inch version provided with stylus. €1500

    I hope there is also a black version of the Flip 13. Maybe by customizing it?


    Tap 11:

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264522
    SVT1121B2EW - White Tap 11 with Pentium 3560Y, 4GB, 128GB, GPS. Weight 0.78Kg, 9.9mm thick. €800

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibr...tailsID=264523
    SVT1121W9EB - Black Tap 11 with i5 Y, 4GB, 128GB, GPS, 4G/LTE. Weight 0.83Kg, 10.5mm thick. €1200

    It's interesting to see how the Core processor makes the black version a bit heavier and thicker.

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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    Are there any 13-inchers with the digitiser?
    (or can I reuse the Duo 13 digitiser)

    EDIT: nvm to the first Q, clicked on the link and I see the flagship model has digitiser. Would be curious about second Q.

    EDIT 2: Gewicht is blank. Boo.

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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    ^

    Kinda disappointing ..

    €1200 for an i5 and a GT 735m .. ?

    No thanks ..

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    Default Re: Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

    Quote Originally Posted by Vogelbung View Post
    Are there any 13-inchers with the digitiser?
    (or can I reuse the Duo 13 digitiser)

    EDIT: nvm to the first Q, clicked on the link and I see the flagship model has digitiser. Would be curious about second Q.

    EDIT 2: Gewicht is blank. Boo.
    All Flip 13 models have digitizer.
    The preview models of Flip 13 and Flip 15 shown at IFA had the same DuoSense2 stylus as the Duo 13. I don't know if they will be changed in the final models.

    Gewicht, I looked it up and it means weight, right? You could find that in the European press release:
    Sony - Setting the new standard in personal computing: VAIO® Fit multi-flip

    It seems the weight was just taken out, but I remember what was written there:
    Flip 13: 1.2Kg
    Flip 14: 1.8Kg
    Flip 15: 2.0Kg

 

 

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