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11th May 2012, 10:21 PM #191New Jack Hustler
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12th May 2012, 01:54 AM #194Notebook Virtuoso
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Re: Sony's Ultrabook coming in April
Shame of it is, Sony has all the stuff to capture the $1,000 mkt with the S with a decent screen and a decent fan, make a UB version by slimming down the chassis, dropping the DVD drive, and have the Z retain the "Uberbook"/Ultrabook crown, and they could really be a player. Instead, they go with the ridiculous bloated underpowered T, keep the same problems with the S, do nothing but put IB into the Z and render most of them outdone, outmoded and/or overpriced. Pathetic, particularly when they have more brand equity than Asus and Samsung combined. Pathetic.
Sony Z's (Z13: i7/8GB/256GB/900p/WWAN; Z22: i7/8GB/256GB/FHD) , HP/Dell workstations, old-fashioned tablet PCs and, yes, a couple of really cool tablets and Ultrabooks that are easy on the arthritic shoulders and kinda fun excuses for buying new tech toys! Secret weapon: Galaxy Note 2 smartphone w/WACOM [compatible] "S Pen."
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12th May 2012, 05:24 AM #195Notebook Enthusiast
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12th May 2012, 06:41 AM #196
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Outright failure, I can see them addressing reasonably quickly.
Slightly more nuanced issues - such as obvious build quality problems - are a different matter. That hasn't changed since my first ragefest with the '08 Z's and TT's.
Come to think of it, at this moment in time I haven't had a single trouble-free Z in terms of BC. It's getting positively Applesque (though Apple problems usually come on the inside) in terms of the predictability of a defect, only without the lack of hassle. Something appears to have caused Sony to fall off a cliff post-SZ. My G, TZ's etc were as 'critically built' as the '08 Z's for example and they didn't fall apart or have really obvious part-fit issues.Last edited by Vogelbung; 12th May 2012 at 07:04 AM.
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12th May 2012, 09:28 AM #197Notebook Deity
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Re: Sony's Ultrabook coming in April
Isn't it SZ when Sony made the switch from magnesium to CFRP? Perhaps they need to switch back to metal?
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12th May 2012, 11:16 AM #198
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It's (IMO) the poorly thought out mixing of materials in terms of structural design that's getting them into trouble, not whether they're using mag /alu or carbon (or "carbon"). The SZ for example managed the mix without anywhere near the same issues (though it did have a tendency to mark the screen over time - but this has been a recurring Sony thing since the "carbon" screens).
Sony uses metal only in terms of 'skin feel' parts, i.e. to give the coldness of touch of metal, because carbon or "carbon" feels like plastic - because aluminium could be said to be an inferior material in structural terms compared to carbon or "carbon". The problem comes especially when you use it in parts subject to movement - e.g. if you utilise it in an otherwise all-carbon flexy screen structure, or say in a one-piece keyboard tray that you wrap around the front, when the primary structural component of the case is a carbon tub that's also pretty flexy. The Z does both of these and the results are evident for all to see.| Tablets: Quite a lot | Notebooks: A lot | Desktops: A lot more | Servers: I think you see the pattern | Laptop Bags: Even more |
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12th May 2012, 12:42 PM #199Notebook Deity
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Re: Sony's Ultrabook coming in April
Well, but it's exactly in pre-SZ era when they used mag. on the outside (back of the screen and bottom plate) and plastic on the inside...my VGN-S and PCG-Z505 are prime examples of that era. I agree with it's where that counts, but the trend with aluminum palm rest definitely coincided with the introduction of CF top lid.
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15th May 2012, 03:52 AM #200
Re: Sony's Ultrabook coming in April
Lenovo announces ThinkPad X1 Carbon, calls it the world's lightest 14-inch ultrabook (hands-on) | The Verge
this is much more interesting than the vaio T, its basically a 14'' screen with the size of a 13'', or better yet, finally someone got rid of the bezel width, I want that they go back to 16:10 so that they can also remove the height of the bezel



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