Z1 + ViDock + GTX 570 > FTW (the Z2/PMD killer)

[ComputerCowboy]

Doesn't seem to want to output 3D Blu-ray via 3D Vision with my GTX 570. It gets all choppy. Note 3D Vision/3D Blu-ray work perfectly with the 330M. Why would 3D Blu-ray not work, you'd think that would just be the same bandwidth as two 2D HD movies.

@cyclone
A question about these 1080P movies you played simultaneously... were they high bitrate h.264? like a direct rip off a Blu-ray? Or were they some transcoded more compressed files? I do all my own Blu-ray rips, a quality film is 25Mbps, just because something is 1080P doesn't mean that it is a high bitrate.

[cyclone5]

dunno, I didn't rip them but I was told they were h264 , not a movie buff myself. Does this help?

[ComputerCowboy]

Yes, that explains it, that files is about a third of the bit-rate of a normal Blu-ray

If you had normal 25Mbps files I doubt you could play two at once. Your file has a video bit-rate of 7Mbps. Your file, where ever you got it from, has been trans-coded to reduce the size. Most of my rips are 20 or 30GB+ MKV files

When I rip a 3D Blu-ray I make an ISO image. Either way I sacrifice no quality when I store my movies.

[jedip]

Help

I try following this instruction but I can't

Dear Jeff,

A friend with a Sony Notebook has put together this instructions on how to configure a Sony Notebook to work with ViDock. This is what we give out in technical support if a customer asks how to get his Sony to work. Please have a look:
a) Maybe thee is something new in there for you to learn
b) Is there something you suggest to update or improve? These instructions have been written about half year ago:


We have constructed a manual for the Sony Vaio Z series. The reason the Sony Vaio is not able to work correctly out of the box is because it already has built in hybrid graphics. This limits the ViDock from working correctly. The following steps will get your laptop and ViDock working properly.

1. Before you start, please make sure you have administrative privileges on the laptop. Also you may create a full system backup with an application like Acronis True Image Home and such.
2. Omitted step due to your setup.

3. Uninstall the existing NVidia drivers from the Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs (both NVidia and Intel drivers will be removed). This step is not necessary, but recommended.

4. Download and install the latest Intel HD drivers from here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...01&FamilyId=39, restart the laptop. Make sure the laptop boots in its native resolution (1920x1080 or 1600x900), it means the Intel driver has been installed correctly.

5. Download the NVidia Optimus drivers: http://download.laptopvideo2go.com/n...12_win7x64.exe and extract the package to a temporary folder. You may install standard NVidia drivers, but it does not make much sense because the native hybrid video drivers are significantly faster than non-Optimus ones.

6. Download the Nautis’ INF files: http://www.nautisiandesigns.com/driv...64bit_INFs.zip and extract the 64bit NVUOPTI.INF file to the same temporary folder where driver is (no subfolders!). This will enable Optimus feature in the 259.12 Toshiba’s drivers for VAIO.

7. Download the latest PhysX driver from here: NVIDIA DRIVERS 9.10.0513

8. Download the latest “DIY Vidock Setup 1.x”: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gami...iences-63.html (scroll down the page little bit to find the link). I don’t post the final links to the applications here because the applications and drivers can be updated and changed in the future.

9. Download and install the ImDisk virtual disk software: Tools and utilities for Windows.

10. Launch the DIY Vidock Setup executable; it will extract the package content to c:\DIYVDOCK folder. Now make sure you have BCDEDIT application available from your default application path. If not – you will need to copy it from c:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft-windows-b..iondata-cmdlinetool_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7600.16385_none_e41fee6cbedca6f2\bcdedit.exe to c:\windows\system32. Run the setup-disk-image.bat file from the folder; it will create a DIY Vidock record in the Windows boot configuration.

11. Plug the Vidock into the working laptop. Windows will detect the external video card, but it will not be able to install the correct driver, so it will just show a generic “VGA Display Adapter” device. Please note: the VAIO Z laptop won’t start if the Vidock plugged in. But Villagetronic guys have created a workaround – they have added jumpers that allow delaying the video card initialization*.

12. Run the setup.exe file from the NVidia drivers’ folder; make sure it shows "Display driver” in the list of applications to install. If it doesn’t – most likely you have forgotten to put the nviopti.inf file in the driver’s folder, or have extracted it with a subfolder.

13. If you get an error during setup – you still can install the driver from the Device Manager. Open the Windows Device Manager, then go to Display Adapters, and right click on the Standard VGA Display Adapter; select Update Driver Software -> Browse my computer for driver software -> Let me pick from a list… -> Have Disk… and select nvupti.inf file from the drivers folder.

14. Now install the PhysX driver, unplug the Vidock, and restart the laptop.

15. Select DIY Vidock Setup 1.x from the boot menu, select the menu based setup (second item), select “!Edit startup.bat”, add the following string in the All profiles section (before call pci.bat):
call iport dedicated off
and save the startup.bat file. The line we’ve just added turns the integrated NVidia GT 330M video card off to make Optimus configuration possible.

16. Select Using startup.bat, then Chainload w7|orig from the main menu. Next time you will not have to do all these procedures. Just Select DIY Vidock Setup -> Automated startup via startup.bat (auto select on timeout) -> Windows 7 (auto select on timeout).

17. Now you have 2 choices, depending on the video card type you’re going to use with the Vidock. Some video cards can be plugged in to the laptop a normal way, some with a small trick. I’ve tried GTS 450, GTX 285 and couple of GTX 460. The easiest way works with GTX 285 and GTS 450 – just plug the video card and start enjoying it. Unfortunately, this does not work with GTX 460. The laptop and my external monitor both show the blank screen in case if I plug the GTX 460 into the working laptop. So, as soon as the OS has been loaded, put the laptop into the sleep mode, plug in the video card, and wake up the laptop – it will activate the external video card and you should not see the blank screen. Please note if you hibernate your laptop and turn it on again, the internal NVidia video card will be powered on (even if it’s disabled in the Device Manager), and the Optimus feature will be deactivated.

18. To make sure the Optimus mode is enabled in your configuration – open the NVidia control panel, go to “View” menu item and see if the “Add “Run with graphic processor” to Context Menu” item is visible and enabled.

19. Now you may disable the laptop’s display and play COD, NFS, etc... The Optimus configuration also allows you to use the Vidock without an external display (just like a video accelerator), but in this case the NVidia drivers will show a watermark when the 3d engine is working.

I can't install otimus259.13_win7x64
Please suggest me.
Thank you.

[ComputerCowboy]

You don't need to do all of that unless you are trying to run your internal display off your eGPU.

If you just want to run your eGPU download the latest nVidia drivers and install them, that is it.

[Nautis]

Pretty much. Also there are newer drivers and infs and things on the eGPU thread if you are looking at going the optimus route. There are some extremely knowledgeable people there who will be more than willing to help. If not do what CompCowboy said.. its probably the easiest way to start out anyways.

Also Vilagetronic... *GLARES*

[ComputerCowboy]

yea Village kind of sucks

I am not pleased at all to find out how they have treated other customers. I haven't even been using my ViDock since I figured out how to get the U3011 going without it, since Cyclone's dock caught fire I am not too keen on leaving it unattended. Maybe if I decide to get another U3011 I'll get that Matrox card that does 4x WQXGA.

[Fduch1984]

Guys, what do you think about using heaviest videocards with ViDock? I've recently got ViDock 4 Plus and now I'm choosing the best solution. What if I get AMD Radeon 9900 + external AC adapter and connect it to 6900 directly. Should such configuration work?

Thanks in advance.

[pyr0]

Guys, what do you think about using heaviest videocards with ViDock? I've recently got ViDock 4 Plus and now I'm choosing the best solution. What if I get AMD Radeon 9900 + external AC adapter and connect it to 9900 directly. Should such configuration work?

Thanks in advance.

You probably mean a 6990. ATI cards in general perform worse compared to NVidias with the Z. The Z gives Optimus capability so a GTX560Ti would perform 3x faster than the high end 6990.

Please tell us what you want to achieve with the setup and we tell you the best card.

[Fduch1984]

You probably mean a 6990.

Exactly, my mistake.

ATI cards in general perform worse compared to NVidias with the Z. The Z gives Optimus capability so a GTX560Ti would perform 3x faster than the high end 6990.

I thought GTX 560 Ti is "middle-class" card...

Please tell us what you want to achieve with the setup and we tell you the best card.

I need external video card only for one thing - playing Battlefield 2: Bad Company. Also Battlefield 3 is coming in October-11. Resolution is no more than 1920 x 1080. So, I am expecting to get decent FPS with anti-aliasing and other stuff.
I am not familiar in videocards on the market so I am just looking at top models of nVidia and AMD. If you can tell me what is the most powerful solution I'd really appreciate this!