Official Sony VAIO F Series i5/i7 owners thread *Part 5*

[jpride]

1. What exactly is VAIO Event Service for? Do I need it or can I uninstall it?
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You can't possibly be asking this after everything we've all been through with you. You're clearly trolling. Stop it.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Thank you, I did it. I also disabled the wireless driver then (I never use it) and now it's processes don't run in the background anymore.

I have a few more question, if anyone is willing to help me:

1. What exactly is VAIO Event Service for? Do I need it or can I uninstall it?

2. Do I have to calibrate my display (VAIO F13 series with Windows 7 x64)? I've read that F11 series laptops should be calibrated, what about F13?

3. Should I turn on and calibrate the ClearType Text? Will it be really more "visible" then?

4. Audio marks (Windows Sounds)" are sometimes delayed. Could it be the Realtek driver? Is there a newer one (newer than the one on the VAIO support site)?

5. Is "Never notify" UAC setting safe/OK? I'm the only one who uses this laptop and am bothered by constant warnings.

6. I updated the latest nVidia driver and it left stuff (over 200 MB) in C:\NVIDIA folder. Can I delete this folder and it's contents?

Thank you very much!

1. Vaio event Service: is needed for the function keys (FN and others) to work (www.google.com).
2. It's always better to calibrate: Vaio_F Series Monitor Calibration and Users Created Profiles Roundup
3. Yes: Microsoft Typography - What is ClearType?
4. You could try the latest from Realtek: Realtek
5. No it's not: Why you should never disable UAC
6. Yes you can: TweakGuides.com - Nvidia Forceware Tweak Guide

[anseio]

That looks correct. Can you get the RPMs while idle and the the temps are cool? Just run Everest Sensors and walk away for a bit. I believe that my fan turns on at 1920 RPM and 43C system temps. I am interested in if this is the case for you also since your fan speeds and temps look very similar to mine.

Again, the more people who do this, the better we can understand. People with fan noise are most likely in a warm environment or they have processes that are forcing CPU loads that raise the temps.

This has been my contention for quite a while, but now perhaps we can get some data to back it up!

Thanks anseio!

So, after being away for the morning, I've just returned home with my new indoor/outdoor thermometer/humidity meter to replace the one that mysteriously broke this weekend after I squeezed it too hard to turn the night light on to read it in the middle of the night.

It's currently 59.4f in my apartment and 46f outside. A slight drizzle just began, which is preventing me from trying on my new garden gloves and doing some much needed pruning on the rhodies. Oh, WHY has the sun forsaken us?

Anyway, turned on my lappy and it booted around 2400. When the boot was done, it dropped down to 0. I connected to the web and opened IE9, then walked away. Given my environmental temps, it's idling at 0, and was even at 0 for the first several seconds of reading/typing around here.

At this very momeent, it hovers at 1860-1980, and bursts up to 2600. WAIT... it just dropped back down to 0 again and is still at 0 after 1 minute has gone by. Now that I say that, it's up to 900, then burst to 3400, down to 2040. How do you like my "live, streaming feed"?

I have about 70 processes at boot. I'm sure I could clean out services better. My clean install has 46 process and I just have a lot of things that make me happy when they start at boot up.

Well , I just got off the chat with one of the Live Chat people. Since I troll them as a little fun thing to do since I see them all the time to ask if they are going to update this series you might be able to contribute a lot of this to just me being confusing. But, basically what he said is that they will never update the series with Sandy Bridge. Take from this what you will. But, I actually need/want some input so that

I love how the chat rep you got shows that he either never took, or doesn't remember his basic algebra skills and repeated asks you what the "X" is in the F1X model. Seriously, how can any information he provides be credible when he's not even familiar with writing variable model numbers as a single number? Geesh!

[Willscary]

So, after being away for the morning, I've just returned home with my new indoor/outdoor thermometer/humidity meter to replace the one that mysteriously broke this weekend after I squeezed it too hard to turn the night light on to read it in the middle of the night.

It's currently 59.4f in my apartment and 46f outside. A slight drizzle just began, which is preventing me from trying on my new garden gloves and doing some much needed pruning on the rhodies. Oh, WHY has the sun forsaken us?

Anyway, turned on my lappy and it booted around 2400. When the boot was done, it dropped down to 0. I connected to the web and opened IE9, then walked away. Given my environmental temps, it's idling at 0, and was even at 0 for the first several seconds of reading/typing around here.

At this very momeent, it hovers at 1860-1980, and bursts up to 2600. WAIT... it just dropped back down to 0 again and is still at 0 after 1 minute has gone by. Now that I say that, it's up to 900, then burst to 3400, down to 2040. How do you like my "live, streaming feed"?

I have about 70 processes at boot. I'm sure I could clean out services better. My clean install has 46 process and I just have a lot of things that make me happy when they start at boot up.

First of all...UNDER 60F in your home!!! Are you nuts????

Second of all, cool beans! Even with a few programs running your fan shuts off due to cool temps. This further reinforces the theory that those with high fan speeds most likely have high temps due to environmental surroundings or to running processes.

If you turn off everything except for the Everest sensors and walk away for a few minutes, does the fan shut down completely with 60F ambient air?

Also, a comment...I should probably report that switching from the OEM HDD to an SSD has lowered the temps in all of the F series machines that I work with by about 2C, which seems to equate to about 200-300 RPM of fan speed at 70F ambient air. The heat from the HDD seems likely to be the culprit for those whose right palmrest seems to get warm. (I have read this complaint a few times in the past).

Thanks ansieo! I will +1 rep you when I can!

[blackball]

Anyway, turned on my lappy and it booted around 2400. When the boot was done, it dropped down to 0. I connected to the web and opened IE9, then walked away. Given my environmental temps, it's idling at 0, and was even at 0 for the first several seconds of reading/typing around here.

I noticed this happening when I was trying to install my new LCD. The laptop was wide open when I powered it up, so I could see the fan spinning up initially, then stopping completely for a little while. At first I thought I had damaged something (didn't make sense that the fan would just stop at boot :P), but it restarted shortly after.

Edit: In other words, I don't think this has something to do with ambient temperature- My room temp was not that low and I saw this behavior every time I booted.

[James D]

First of all...UNDER 60F in your home!!! Are you nuts????

Second of all, cool beans! Even with a few programs running your fan shuts off due to cool temps. This further reinforces the theory that those with high fan speeds most likely have high temps due to environmental surroundings or to running processes.

If you turn off everything except for the Everest sensors and walk away for a few minutes, does the fan shut down completely with 60F ambient air?

Also, a comment...I should probably report that switching from the OEM HDD to an SSD has lowered the temps in all of the F series machines that I work with by about 2C, which seems to equate to about 200-300 RPM of fan speed at 70F ambient air. The heat from the HDD seems likely to be the culprit for those whose right palmrest seems to get warm. (I have read this complaint a few times in the past).

Thanks ansieo! I will +1 rep you when I can!

If I am right he uses notebook cooler. Perhaps it was turned on. That is exactly why fan reached 0.

About temperature. 60F = 15.6C, yes? It is OK. 20C is Perfect for human. This winter I used to save natural Gas (too expensive) so basing on my not good windows and doors (I live in house) sometimes temps was 12C. Which was very good for laptop If you want to be healthy you need to harden.

I believe that right palmrest is warmer because of that stick. Left one is smaller but the same warm. Hard drive really makes laptop lil bit hotter but what if it will be in optical bay? ANSEIO? What temps does your hard drive show?

EDIT:\\\ Mine fan oftenly just shuts of when I am playing a game with overclocked GPU while it is 60C. Also I noticed that when I push Alt+Tab exiting Crysis 2 my fan starts to work much louder (and of course temps going down because i am not push GPU work hard at that moment).

[jpride]

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This further reinforces the theory that those with high fan speeds most likely have high temps due to environmental surroundings or to running processes......

This just isn't true in my case. Like I said, with 0-1% CPU usage, less than 70 processes, no extra programs opened after boot, in a very cold room, the very lowest I've ever seen my fan is 3200 RPM. If I open even one program, any program, and leave it idle, it's in the upper 3000s. In normal use for me, it is in the 4000s and occasionally hits some number in the 5000s (don't know what the max is). Until Friday (when we finally got anseio's missing sun - don't worry, anseio, it's leaving tomorrow), the temp in my apt has been in the 50s ever since I got my computer back in October. It's usually so cold in my apt that I'm wearing 6 layers of clothes, a hat and a couple pair of gloves and still feel very cold. Not only does my fan never shut off under any circumstances, but I cannot do anything at all to get it under 3200RPM. That's why I said that something is clearly different and wrong about my laptop compared to others and am worried it may produce some problem in the longterm. It's not environmental temps or processes/CPU usage pushing the fan for me.

[Willscary]

This just isn't true in my case. Like I said, with 0-1% CPU usage, less than 70 processes, no extra programs opened after boot, in a very cold room, the very lowest I've ever seen my fan is 3200 RPM. If I open even one program, any program, and leave it idle, it's in the upper 3000s. In normal use for me, it is in the 4000s and occasionally hits some number in the 5000s (don't know what the max is). Until Friday (when we finally got anseio's missing sun - don't worry, anseio, it's leaving tomorrow), the temp in my apt has been in the 50s ever since I got my computer back in October. It's usually so cold in my apt that I'm wearing 6 layers of clothes, a hat and a couple pair of gloves and still feel very cold. Not only does my fan never shut off under any circumstances, but I cannot do anything at all to get it under 3200RPM. That's why I said that something is clearly different and wrong about my laptop compared to others and am worried it may produce some problem in the longterm. It's not environmental temps or processes/CPU usage pushing the fan for me.

I don't disagree that your fan speeds are that way. there are perhaps 20 people who post here that their fan speed is high and whiny. I deal with a dozen of these machines on a daily basis. I have not seen any major differences in any of the machines I handle and anseio's results pattern mine.

I believe that you may have a problem. Either some sort of obstruction, perhaps a poorly set heat sink or thermal paste, or you have a software conflict.

My fan starts at perhaps 2400 RPM at startup also, and this is normal. When booting and in BIOS prior to Windows starting, I believe that the fan is programmed (in BIOS) to rev a bit simply because the processor is working to fire everything up. I also see this when booting to BIOS in other machines...Dell, HP, Toshiba and Acer. Not all, but many other machines seem to have this trait when in BIOS.

I don't discount what you say one bit, but I don't see yours as normal either. I have posted several times on this thread that I installed an HP printer driver that caused my machine to heat up to where I thought it would burn up. I have found other machines (not F series) where software conflicts cause steady 2-5% CPU usage that causes temps to rise.

In your case, if temps are in the 43-45C range for CPU and motherboard, I would guess that your fan speed programming (supply voltage) is incorrect.

Can you post sensor temps and fan speeds?

Bill

[jpride]

In your case, if temps are in the 43-45C range for CPU and motherboard, I would guess that your fan speed programming (supply voltage) is incorrect.

Can you post sensor temps and fan speeds?

Bill

My CPU temps are usually in the 50s, except right after I boot. When I'm home I will get specific numbers. When I run my virus scan the cpu gets to 71. When I'm actively using multiple programs 60s are common but usually I'm just using my browser and in the 50s. It never feels hot at all.

Sorry for multiple edits -phone is acting up.

[Willscary]

If I am right he uses notebook cooler. Perhaps it was turned on. That is exactly why fan reached 0.

About temperature. 60F = 15.6C, yes? It is OK. 20C is Perfect for human. This winter I used to save natural Gas (too expensive) so basing on my not good windows and doors (I live in house) sometimes temps was 12C. Which was very good for laptop If you want to be healthy you need to harden.

I believe that right palmrest is warmer because of that stick. Left one is smaller but the same warm. Hard drive really makes laptop lil bit hotter but what if it will be in optical bay? ANSEIO? What temps does your hard drive show?

EDIT:\\\ Mine fan oftenly just shuts of when I am playing a game with overclocked GPU while it is 60C. Also I noticed that when I push Alt+Tab exiting Crysis 2 my fan starts to work much louder (and of course temps going down because i am not push GPU work hard at that moment).

The laptop cooler will not cause the internal fans to shut off. the fan shuts off on all of my machines when the motherboard and CPU temps are under 42C. The cooler will help to force the cooler ambient air into the chassis, but the only way that the internal fan shuts off when the laptop is on is when the internal sensors tell it that it is not needed.