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    Default Re: Samsung 830 vs Samsung 840 vs Crucial m4

    if you're interested in the technical workings of SSDs...stay far, far away from forums and give yourself a day or two to read through AnandTech's SSD anthology articles/SSD reviews.

    anyhow....they're all modern SSDs. Just pick the cheapest one. ESPECIALLY if this is your first SSD.

    The one minor issue is that HISTORICALLY, the m4 has needed firmware updates to iron out some bugs. If you're highly uncomfortable 'booting' from USB drives and using command line, then the 830 MAY be a better choice for you. I honestly can't remember if the 830 has had critical firmware updates.

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    Default Re: Samsung 830 vs Samsung 840 vs Crucial m4

    Ars also has a nice article on what makes SSDs tick: Solid-state revolution: in-depth on how SSDs really work | Ars Technica.

    As for the 830, i do not know of any critical firmware updates that were needed. What generic User #2 said about the M4 is true, but Crucial has at least a good history at fixing those bugs and fixing them fast once it's identified. The only major bug i know of is the 5000 hours issue and they fixed that within two weeks after reports of the bug came in.

    Samsung has the best reliability track record right now, followed by Crucial and Intel and a few other smaller players.
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    Default Re: Samsung 830 vs Samsung 840 vs Crucial m4

    On the drives you mention, your actual choice should be totally price dependent. I have a number of M4s, C300s and X25s and just received my first Samsung 830 (at $169.99 it was too good to pass up).

    In actual use you will never be able to tell the difference between your three choices.

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    Default Re: Samsung 830 vs Samsung 840 vs Crucial m4

    Quote Originally Posted by HTWingNut View Post
    I thought TLC NAND had a lot lower write endurance and was difficult to manage because of all the voltage states (8) compared with MLC (4).
    I guess that's true, but it's said that the MDX controller is a lot more advanced than the MCX, I'm guessing it has a lot to play out in the Samsung 840 standard. It manages write amplification a lot better than the MCX so that covers the TLC's lower write endurance.

    The Samsung 830 prices on Amazon are back to the usual retail prices, unfortunately. I managed to get a Samsung 830 128GB ($70 within that 20 minutes it was up) for my other notebook direct from Amazon after several months of use of my Samsung 830 256GB. It's very reliable and hasn't slowed down or throttled at all, 0 crashes and BSODs.

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    I just quickly calculate with 1:1 Write Amplification a 256GB SSD with 1000 erase cycles ~ 140GB/day writes for 5 years. Your average user will likely only write/erase ~ 50GB at worse case, so even if WA is 2:1 worse case is ~ 6 years before failure. Most users though I think from a study somewhere (no link) was only about 20GB/day. So I guess as drives get larger the WA becomes a little less of an issue.

    I like my Samsung drive, just bought another 256GB. But the Crucial are a great value. I have a 512GB Crucial M4 that I got for ~ $300 and a 256GB mSATA M4 for ~$180.

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    Default Re: Samsung 830 vs Samsung 840 vs Crucial m4

    Quote Originally Posted by HTWingNut View Post
    I just quickly calculate with 1:1 Write Amplification a 256GB SSD with 1000 erase cycles ~ 140GB/day writes for 5 years. Your average user will likely only write/erase ~ 50GB at worse case, so even if WA is 2:1 worse case is ~ 6 years before failure. Most users though I think from a study somewhere (no link) was only about 20GB/day. So I guess as drives get larger the WA becomes a little less of an issue.

    I like my Samsung drive, just bought another 256GB. But the Crucial are a great value. I have a 512GB Crucial M4 that I got for ~ $300 and a 256GB mSATA M4 for ~$180.
    where you get 512 crucial m4 for 300?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tranquility1337 View Post
    where you get 512 crucial m4 for 300?
    It was on sale.

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