1.8" ZIF PATA SSDs available

[nando4]

Value recommendations: COL=high perf COL=balanced battery life+perf. Ranked by 4kb feels faster random reads.

1.8" ZIF drive +order link Controller+stp^1 Price $US 32,64,128GB Perf.UDMA5 Win7 trim low pwr Notes 4kb seq Mtron Mobi 3000.SLC Mtron 200,000,000 28 83/74 n/a no Review. 64GB never made. Renice K3VLAR & Indilinx BF+Marvell ... 22 88/75 yes no Review. +fast, -runs hot, -discontinued Runcore Pro IV & Indilinx BF+Jmicron Indilinx BF+Marvell 070,110,210 21 83/76 yes no Review. +fast, -runs hot, -Jmicron version less compatible. Sabertooth ZT Indilinx BF+?? 170,290,000 2? 8?/7? yes no Hana Micron Forte Indilinx BF+?? ... 17 92/61 yes no Bench. SLC variants. Asia only. Photofast GMonster.V3 Indilinx.BF+Sunplus ... 17 86/56 yes no Bench. Intel X18M G2 Intel+DIY.US$15 000,120,000 15 89/66 yes no Bench/review. low power. Renice K3VLAR-E & EastWho EWS720 110,140,280 15 91/75 no yes Review-120GB+60GB. Photofast GMonster.V4 EastWho EWS720 230,400,600 15 91/73 no yes Review-120GB. SLC variants. Mach Xtreme MX-Nano EastWho EWS720 089,115,240 13 89/61 no yes Bench-120GB &. US/EU/JP/AU orders. SuperTalent ZT2 & Eastwho EWS720 075,125,225 13 89/30 no yes Bench-60GB, comment &. Sabertooth ZF Eastwho EWS720 090,140 - - no yes - Solidata Z6 Eastwho EWS720 000,200,330 ?? ??/7? yes no There's also a Indilinx Z6. Sandisk UATA 5000 Sandisk? ... 15 64/28 no yes Bench &. Samsung 100/80 MLC Samsung+DIY.US$15 ... 14 83/56 no no Bench/pics. SuperTalent GF & SM2233G 074,107,193 13 80/40 no no Poor performance. Kingspec SM2233G 085,150,300 13 80/45 no no Review/Bench. Sabertooth Z4 SM2233G 079,120,240 13 80/38 no no GMonsterV2 SM2233G ... 12 76/35 no no Bench. Samsung ZIF Samsung ... 13 56/33 no yes Bench. Runcore Pro 1.8" JMF602? ... 10 63/63 no no Bench. 5400rpm HDD (up to 240GB!) PATA ... 0 35/35 no no Bench. 240GB 4k sector issue, fix, non-issue. 4200rpm HDD PATA ... 0 24/23 no no Bench. Comparative: 2.5" sata SSD with stp Mtron 3500.SLC-sata Mtron - 19 84/56 n/a no Bench. OCZ Vertex 60GB Indilinx BF - 18 88/66 yes no Bench with Marvell stp caddy. Crucial M4 Marvell 9174 - 16 90/69 yes no Bench. Runcore Pro IV SATA Indilinx BF - 15 84/65 yes no Bench from here with Jmicron stp Intel SATA X25M G2 Intel - 15 89/56 yes no Bench-Marvell. Bench-Sony. Kingston SSDNow V+100 Tosh T6UG1XBG - 13 88/61 yes no Bench-Marvell. Samsung SATA mlc/slc Samsung - 10 68/55 no no Bench with Sony stp.

000: not available
...: discontinued or not sold in English markets. Can check ebay for s/h units.
n/a: SLC SSDs don't require TRIM.
^1 Requires a sata-to-pata (stp) adapter. Eg: DIY solution. As a comparison, sata-to-pata bridge in optical drive bay adapter measured here found to add 0.8-1W overhead to do the translation. DIY may be lower since it doesn't need to do 5V to 3.3V voltage regulation.
UDMA5 has max 100MB/s read and 88.9MB/s write

Notes

1. Some SSDs don't have TRIM support, meaning they rely on garbage collection to maintain write performance. Use Tony Trim to help GC along. Note too that XP/VISTA doesn't support TRIM. Only Win7 does.
   
   
2. flashfire accelerator increases small file writes on older or Jmicron SSDs.
   
   
3. a US$14-shipped adapter can allow use of a ZIF SSD in a 2.5" sata system.
   
   
4. Seeing <30 sequential writes? See explanation and workaround for ICH8M and ICH7M.
   
   
5. The ZIF PATA interface doesn't provide AHCI's NCQ, so multiple streamed read/writes cannot occur in parallel. This means that ZIF SSDs work better with a SSD controller optimized for single queuing. For example, on an sata AHCI interface, Intel X25M G2 has faster 4kb multithreaded read performance than a Indilinx-based SSD, but when using the pata interface (queue=1) the Indilinx SSDs have faster 4kb multithreaded read performance. Some example Bench here.
   
   
6. If you have a pata optical drive, could also do a DIY: Adding SSD or HDD storage using an optical bay caddy using a 2.5" SATA SSD/HDD.
   
   
7. mSATA & 1.8" SATA SSDs available can be used via a US$15 microsata-to-ZIF adapter, deshelling and soldering.
   
   
8. sata-to-pata bridge user review - Sunplus (newmodeus) and Marvell (ebay) and another.

Please post any new ZIF details/Bench so can be include in the table.

[tinyEEEpc]

thanks for posting this.

i'll be receiving my 32gb mtron zif ssd this week and will run some benchmarks on a dell d430.

looking at the chart the best value seems to be the k3vlar @ $120 from mydigitaldiscount. The mtron is available on ebay for around $150. I didn't even know about the k3vlar drive until I saw your chart. do you think the mtron is worth a $30 premium?

[nando4]

Originally Posted by tinyEEEpc

thanks for posting this.

i'll be receiving my 32gb mtron zif ssd this week and will run some benchmarks on a dell d430.

looking at the chart the best value seems to be the k3vlar @ $120 from mydigitaldiscount. The mtron is available on ebay for around $150. I didn't even know about the k3vlar drive until I saw your chart. do you think the mtron is worth a $30 premium?

Mtron has SLC longevity and great speed, but is only 32GB. The K3VLAR and Nano is recommended. Nano order details as supplied by manufacturer below. Renice will be releasing an equivalent EWS720 product as well. The EWS720 SSDs offering the best balance of battery life and performance imho.

Mach Xtreme MX-Nano 64GB ZIF SSD ordering details

from xx@mx-technology.com
date Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:01 PM
subject RE: FW: ZIF Nano product details - available at MyDigitalDiscount.com

I wanted to update you that our NANO series is finally available in the US retail at http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/Cat...h+Nano+ZIF+SSD

And on our page: http://www.mx-technology.com/en/buy/...d=1#fragment-2

Regarding RRP$, 30GB @ 110$, 60GB @ 180$, 120GB @ 290$ and 240GB @ 620$. Flash prices went up sharply in last 3,4 weeks, but I still hope that our NANO’s retail prices are highly competitive! We will try to give a better price after flash market cools down a bit.
_____________________________________________________________________________________
MX SSDs can be easily purchased in many regions:

US
http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/Cat...eme+Technology

Australia
http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/...me+Nano&spos=3

Europe
http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...y:.:261:2.html

Japan
http://kakaku.com/search_results/Mac...ry=0001%2C0070

[nando4]

moved from here:

Originally Posted by Maiev

It comes down to either Renice or Photofast. Marvell SATA to PATA bridge that much of a difference?

Wanted to ask, is the Photofast controller that much better than the Indilinx (or the same, I was confused ) and if I buy the Renice over Photofast for my VAIO TZ91, would I really feel that minor difference.

I wouldn't mind paying a little more for the quality, but damn Renice' price just almost a lot cheaper :O and I'm wondering what made it so cheap... maybe no auto Garbage Collection? Just wanted to make sure nothing is "cheaped" out.

Marvell sata-to-pata bridge is what I'd be going for if going an Indilinx solution. It's faster and more compatible than the jmicron based ProIV. The other Indilinx Solidata and Sabertooth products make no mention of what stp bridge they use.

My suggestion? A EWS720-based Renice product will soon be sold via MyDigitalDiscount (MDD), a reputable US company. MDD back their products with a return/refund policy if it's not up to scratch.

The EWS720-based ZIF SSDs giving the best balance of performance and battery life, with GC but no trim. The Indilinx product is the higher performer, with higher power consumption, with GC and trim. I've used both and admittedly it was hard to notice the higher performance of the Indilinx product. What I did notice was the longer battery life and cooler running temps the EWS720-based V4 offered. I guess it comes down to which criteria are important to you.

[flatsix911]

Has anyone used a Runcore ProIV ZIF SSD in a Lattitude D430 notebook?
I have searched for confirmation ... thanks

[crimsona]

Funny how you've posted the details for Mach Xtreme - I literally just bought one of their 1.8 inch SSDs (50 Pin PATA for Fujitsu P1510, what a PITA to locate).

I had some back and forth communication with their sales team from October 29th to November 3rd, had the drive shipped out via EMS on Nov 3, arrived in Vancouver Canada Nov 9, stuck in customs for 3 days and finally delivered to my house just this morning.

Haven't had a chance to install it, probably won't for a little while. Probably sound like a shill with my first post, but perhaps my username still pops up in Google cache over at LeoG's old Fujitsu P series forums

[flatsix911]

Originally Posted by flatsix911

Has anyone used a Runcore ProIV ZIF SSD in a Latitude D430 notebook?
I have searched for confirmation ... thanks

Still looking for some feedback on these questions ... Thanks

• Best ZIF SSD for a notebook?
• Success with a Dell Latitude D430?
• Clone or fresh install of the Win 7 OS?

[nando4]

Originally Posted by flatsix911

Still looking for some feedback on these questions ... Thanks

• Best ZIF SSD for a notebook?
• Success with a Dell Latitude D430?
• Clone or fresh install of the Win 7 OS?

Best ZIF SSDs are the K3VLAR and EWS720 units, depending on your preference for outright speed or balanced speed/battery life respectively. K3VLAR with the advantage of Win7 TRIM support to maintain write speed.

D430 uses a ICH8M chipset, same as my 2510P but with the simpler single master device on the channel setup. It will work without issue.

A fresh Win7 install ensures the partitions are aligned to NAND page block size offsets for maximum performance.

[tinyEEEpc]

Mtron 32gb ssd zif. D430 @ udma5

Not sure why the bad write speeds. I tried editing with baredit (both 1033 and 3033 but still same results. 1033 did get me to 45 once).

[flatsix911]

Originally Posted by tinyEEEpc

Mtron 32gb ssd zif. D430 @ udma5

Not sure why the bad write speeds. I tried editing with baredit
(both 1033 and 3033 but still same results. 1033 did get me to 45 once).

Thanks for posting your benchmark resuts.

Any idea if the KingSpec or Super Talent drives on Ebay are compatibile with the Dell D430?