SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

[tilleroftheearth]

25nm nand based SSD's:

- much lower write cycles (about 1/3).

- for same capacity, less channels needed; which means less performance.

- not much (if any) cheaper.

- new process node; reliability not known.

[chimpanzee]

in general changing process generation is pretty safe(well once in a while there are glitches but those are very rare) as far as reliability is concerned. Because if it flops, the monentary damage is huge, just look at the sandy bridge chipset saga.

What one needs to be worried are those components higher up in the chain like has sandforce tested properly ? has OCZ tested properly. Based on my experience and reading, that is a big NO. So for such a product release philosophy, I would be worried on any change and would wait for the test results(i.e. early adaptors).

[bigspin]

Is there any price difference with OCZ 25nm and 34nm products? If not they are trying to rip off customers not only price but also by not telling them about it.

[chimpanzee]

You can't say it is a rip off. Any business would try to minimize the cost and still maintain the selling price.

SSD is a bit special as far as NAND is concern due to the mentioned issues. That said, they would still insist that the one using 25nm still gives you the same ATTO benchmark and still back by the same 'time based' warranty.

[tilleroftheearth]

The fine print always says:

"Specifications subject to change."

[bigspin]

The fine print always says:

"Specifications subject to change."

In states it might valid, but in Europe we have quite good consumer protection policies.

[bigspin]

You can't say it is a rip off. Any business would try to minimize the cost and still maintain the selling price.

SSD is a bit special as far as NAND is concern due to the mentioned issues. That said, they would still insist that the one using 25nm still gives you the same ATTO benchmark and still back by the same 'time based' warranty.

Yes, but they need have some ethics to tell the truth to customers. Anyway OCZ customer relations are below average so I'm not surprised.

[Tomy B.]

You can't say it is a rip off. Any business would try to minimize the cost and still maintain the selling price.

SSD is a bit special as far as NAND is concern due to the mentioned issues. That said, they would still insist that the one using 25nm still gives you the same ATTO benchmark and still back by the same 'time based' warranty.

Read it this way: maximize profit!

I can't believe it, they're ripping of buyers with that ATTO read/write speeds (for all SandForce based SSDs) and now with 25nm proces without lowering price.

[splinterpc]

i was a loyal buyer of ocz in past years( ram and coolers) but this is unacceptable.

ok, i know that the market is evolving every day, the passage to 25 nm was only a matter of time, but..for the damned hell, this is a fraud.

the worse thing is the fact that only recently someone has started talking about it in ocz forum and some post were also censored, according to some users.

here you can see differences between 2 versions

Result Mini-review: Direct comparison between 34nm and 25nm drives using 0-fill highly compressible data and 0/1-fill partially compressible data


this is madness!


goodbye ocz, my next 3rd generation ssd will be Intel, and untill i'll have an internet connection, i will blame them around all forums...

[chimpanzee]

OCZ is quite liberal in removing any posts on their support forum that make their product look bad :-)

IMO, it is plain childish. Their forum is populated with mostly OCZ fanboy(well OCZ SF SSD fanboy). Truly frusted users either say it on other channels(newegg, here ...) or through blogs. The last they need to worry is their forum :-)