ALL SZ160p/c OWNERS MUST READ THIS!!!!!

[Randall25]

If you are like me, you purchased the VGN-SZ160p/c thinking it will have a carbon fibre case. After all, Sony advertised it as a premium model with carbon fibre case, and was glad to take our 2400.00 + premium for the the unit. If your unit has VGN-SZ160P above the left hinge and the lid does not have a cris-crossed weave pattern, then it's plastic. There is another thread on this subject that I don't believe is recieving the attention is should due to the subject line. Please see this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...t=46357&page=6 This is FALSE ADVERTISING to ninth degree. We all need to get on the phone with Sony's Office of the President and demand a refund or replacement asap. as I stated in the other thread "7 hour battery claim is one thing, but substituting plastic for carbon fiber and charging 500.00 for it is another. I will be demanding a refund or replacement."

[poweruser]

Let us know if you are able to get Sony to refund/replace. Normally Sony has replacement policy but no return policy. Especially for those who have had the 160 for a month or more thinking it was carbon.

If Sony doesn't correct the problem and someone can prove its not carbon then I'm sure an ambitious lawyer could get a lot of class action clients from these boards.

I suggest people start printing, downloading and taking screen shots of Sony’s advertising as all premiums are supposed to be carbon.

[_radditz_]

Ive heard sony is shoddy..but this takes the cake! I cant believe they charge so much and their machines arent even what they say they are. This has to be a breach of consumer rights. If they dont give in then sue 'em!

[Randall25]

"I suggest people start printing, downloading and taking screen shots of Sony’s advertising as all premiums are supposed to be carbon."

That's right the member on the other thread said after they contacted Sony about the issue. Sony took all sz160 material off the us and japan web sites. If anyone made copies of the advertising material on sonystyle save it.

[Timelockmind]

A couple of months ago, the salesman at Frys told the the SZ160 case was NOT carbon fiber - but I did not beleive him.

I them heard the same comment made by an owner I met at Best Buy a few eeks ago. I thought he was mixing up the 120 and 160 models.

If this is true it is very stange. Why would a compnmay lie about soemthing like this. I still find it hard to believe. Is there any test that will prove the material content?

[ikaris]

Here's three screengrabs from the Sony.ca website.

All say Carbon Fiber very clearly.

[poweruser]

Anyone have US advertising?

There are many out there who don’t know what carbon feels or looks like. Sony probably figures they can fool most people and have to deal with the few people that complain loud enough. I still say if this can be proven there is a good cause for a class action lawsuit. Put the advertising & packaging next to the non-carbon models that were shipped. Also point out the 7 hour battery life claims that were prevalent when most people bought (Sony is changing their sites now). It took a class action suit before Apple made good on their battery claims. Up until then Apple tried to buy off each customer for pennies as they complained loud enough. Sony is no different with these tactics of false advertising.

[Randall25]

Also save the sony box the SZ160P/C came in. The label shows the model VGN-SZ160P/C. Sony used the right box for the carbon model but shipped the VGN-SZ160P plastic model instead

[Talon88]

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Just want to let all of you know, there are other
notebook use Carbon Fiber. All Black colour Lid
Z60t also use Carbon Fiber as standard. The CF
they use are called "CFRP(Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plastics)"
But it is hiddened under the paint....!

ThinkPad Z60t 「ThinkPadブラック」モデルのトップカバーでは、
持ち運んで使うことを前提とした強度と軽さをバランスよく両立させるため、
航空機や車のボディーにも採用されている技術ハイブリッドCFRP※を採用。
液晶パネルを守る硬度を保ち、同時にモバイルに適した軽量な構成を実現

※ハイブリッドCFRP(Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plastics) ：
2層にした炭素繊維の間に比重の軽い発泡材層を挟み込んだ複合素材

Details here:
http://www-06.ibm.com/jp/pc/thinkpad.../tpz60ta.shtml

Water Test Movie:
水に浮くほど軽いハイブリッドCFRPのトップカバー
ThinkPadの一部製品に使われているABS素材とハイブリッドCFRP使用のトップカバーの軽さを比較した内容などを紹介。


About the real Carbon Fiber SONY, the lid should show
"crisscross weave like" finish. Also, you can test your
CF SONY like IBM by put the CF Lid into water, if it's
real, it will float. If it's shink, it's fake.....! They are
just plastic....! Refund or ask for no charge exchange
for your fake CF SONY.

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[Talon88]

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Real CF

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