Go Back   Notebook Forums and Laptop Discussion > Notebook Manufacturers > Dell > Dell XPS and Studio XPS

Dell XPS and Studio XPS Post questions and comments on the Dell XPS and Studio XPS line of notebooks in here. Click Here to see the latest Dell XPS Deals.

Welcome to NotebookReview.com! Have a Laptop related question?

Register and ask it here in the forums and remove this ad

Are you looking for a Lenovo laptop or special offers? Check out our Why Buy Lenovo? page

View Poll Results: Are you interested in Vista 64?
Yes, I'm interested in Vista 64 612 87.93%
No, I'm not interested in Vista 64 84 12.07%
Voters: 696. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-20-2007, 11:03 AM   #11
trebuin
Notebook Evangelist
 
trebuin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okinawa, Japan
Posts: 499
Rep Power: 9 trebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nice
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

Missing Drivers posted on initial post, enjoy guys.
__________________
XPS M1330
ETA: 28 Jul
T7500 2.2GHz 2Gb ram
200GB 7200 RPM hd
nVidia 8400M GS 128mb DDR3
WLED Backlit LCD
Crimson Red
2x9 cell batteries
64-Bit Install
trebuin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 12:59 PM   #12
BigCat
Notebook Enthusiast
 
BigCat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 6 BigCat is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

I really appreciate you tossing this together. It saved me from searching this all out myself, and creating a similar post.

Thnx!
__________________
Dell XPS m1330
1.8GHz / 1 GB RAM / WLED / Bluetooth / Intel Wireless N / Red case
Ordered: 7/9/07
Finally IN MY HANDS!
Vista x64 and Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 Dual Boot
BigCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 01:03 PM   #13
BigCat
Notebook Enthusiast
 
BigCat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 6 BigCat is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

Did you have to load the ahci drivers during the format/partition phase of install process? Or did you revert to the ata setting in the bios?
__________________
Dell XPS m1330
1.8GHz / 1 GB RAM / WLED / Bluetooth / Intel Wireless N / Red case
Ordered: 7/9/07
Finally IN MY HANDS!
Vista x64 and Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 Dual Boot
BigCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 04:03 PM   #14
DoubleBlack
Notebook Deity
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,086
Rep Power: 13 DoubleBlack will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

Just wanted to let you know...you do realize you are using a Synaptics driver on an Alps Touchpad...right?
__________________
Dell E1420 w/ TrueLife // Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 | 4GB 667Ghz RAM | 160GB 7200RPM HDD | nVidia 8400GS | Intel 4965AGN | Dell Bluetooth 355 (2.0+EDR) | Webcam | 9-Cell and 6-Cell | CompleteCare/LoJack
DoubleBlack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 06:11 PM   #15
jaebaby
Notebook Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 6 jaebaby is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

ok, i just today decided to keep the 2gb ram and 32bit os. but now i'm reading this.... you guys suk!

seriously, to the ppl with the experience.. if i install 64bit vista will i have issues with software? (mostly adobe/macromedia. i'm trying to avoid getting cs3) will i have daily issues with small programs/shareware downloaded from the internet? (video converting, dual screen software, etc) will i have other issues as well? or is it just the land of milk and honey and there's no reason not to get 64bit os and another 2gb of ram?

i was told by an IT guy that between the driver/software compatiblity issues and the fact that it's a laptop (laptop mobo's not being so good to begin with(?) that there's no real good reason to switch. i'm already taking a leap of faith by leaving xp.

thanks!
jaebaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 08:29 PM   #16
trebuin
Notebook Evangelist
 
trebuin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okinawa, Japan
Posts: 499
Rep Power: 9 trebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nice
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleBlack View Post
Just wanted to let you know...you do realize you are using a Synaptics driver on an Alps Touchpad...right?
I took a look at the hardware and yea, you're right. I did some research as to how I managed to pull that one out. I went to dell's 32 bit driver site for the m1330 and checked the hardware vs the dell drivers and guess what, they're using a synaptics on it too. It works really great, I actually prefer synaptics to the Alps, but if there's enough interest, I have a 64 bit alps driver too.

Thanks for letting me know.
__________________
XPS M1330
ETA: 28 Jul
T7500 2.2GHz 2Gb ram
200GB 7200 RPM hd
nVidia 8400M GS 128mb DDR3
WLED Backlit LCD
Crimson Red
2x9 cell batteries
64-Bit Install
trebuin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 08:59 PM   #17
trebuin
Notebook Evangelist
 
trebuin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okinawa, Japan
Posts: 499
Rep Power: 9 trebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nice
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaebaby View Post
ok, i just today decided to keep the 2gb ram and 32bit os. but now i'm reading this.... you guys suk!

seriously, to the ppl with the experience.. if i install 64bit vista will i have issues with software? (mostly adobe/macromedia. i'm trying to avoid getting cs3) will i have daily issues with small programs/shareware downloaded from the internet? (video converting, dual screen software, etc) will i have other issues as well? or is it just the land of milk and honey and there's no reason not to get 64bit os and another 2gb of ram?

i was told by an IT guy that between the driver/software compatiblity issues and the fact that it's a laptop (laptop mobo's not being so good to begin with(?) that there's no real good reason to switch. i'm already taking a leap of faith by leaving xp.

thanks!
I use pretty much all of Adobe's software, it works great The traditional problems are with the drivers, and 100% of them are working with the M1330. The only software problems you can run into is driver-based software which most works on 64-bit now, and 16-bit software. 16-bit software support has been discontinued on Vista 64 but that's the really, really old software. Check to see if you own it.

There's a huge fight among IT guys out there, half say that there's only a performance loss in 64 bit, the security benefits are n/a, the driver support is non-existent, and the memory increase is the only reason, but the world will never use that much. Finally Vista is windows ME over again.

1) Check my benchmark. The old benchmarks are running off of drivers (mostly nvidia) that gave a huge performance decrease on Vista. ATI started making vista drivers years before nVidia. When Vista was released, ATI cards gained, yes gained, about 5-10% performance over vista. nVidia lost 5-10%. Even to today, the hardware manufacturers are using these older drivers. I have yet to see a 9x.00 nVidia driver that does not slow my system. The recent ones give me about 2-5% performance increase overs Windows XP. Keep in mind that nVidia released the 8800 with NO drivers...the silliest thing they've done.

2) Virus writers have written programs to infect certain blocks of memory, not files. This is how every 32 bit or older windows is so vulnerable. Macintosh uses random memory assigning for the OS. This forces files to have to be the target. It's quite a bit harder to do the job in this case. Vista 64 follows in Macintosh's footsteps...need I say more?

3) Driver support IS a pain in the... I will agree here, but once a piece of hardware has all the drivers...all is good. Graphics drivers are where most of us have issues and nVidia is doing a better job there now.

4) Well, Vista is a memory hog. In XP, I used about .5 gigs not running anything, and my max of 2 gigs through games and encoding. I still run 2 gigs on vista 64 and it's no slower...it actually performs better over WinXP. If you think we're not going to need greater than 4 gigs, join the my old club of guys saying we'll never go over 128 Kb of ram in the good old Win 3.1 days.

5) Microsoft was forced to release the source code of Windows 2000, which was immediately stolen by virus writers and hackers, kudos on them , and shame on the Gov't. WinXP is built off 2000, just given a better graphics engine, so basically, you have open source instructions available world wide on XP. That's why Microsoft is discontinuing the support and pushed out Vista.

Also, Vista has been in development at least since 2001 under longhorn. Software writers have been given Vista for FREE since then. Many would not start writing or think seriously until Vista was in it's final stages. nVidia was taking this stand in October of 2006...after the final build of Vista was released to them. They did not start full development until Feb of 2007. ATI has been on-board since 2001. Many software vendors have been way behind the curve just like this.

Microsoft made a huge code change in Vista. The legacy programs out there might have problems, though they'd rather sue Microsoft over recompiling their software.

Anyhow, I'm stepping off my soapbox.
__________________
XPS M1330
ETA: 28 Jul
T7500 2.2GHz 2Gb ram
200GB 7200 RPM hd
nVidia 8400M GS 128mb DDR3
WLED Backlit LCD
Crimson Red
2x9 cell batteries
64-Bit Install
trebuin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 10:36 PM   #18
trebuin
Notebook Evangelist
 
trebuin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okinawa, Japan
Posts: 499
Rep Power: 9 trebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nicetrebuin is just really nice
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

I really wish there were a m1330 section
__________________
XPS M1330
ETA: 28 Jul
T7500 2.2GHz 2Gb ram
200GB 7200 RPM hd
nVidia 8400M GS 128mb DDR3
WLED Backlit LCD
Crimson Red
2x9 cell batteries
64-Bit Install
trebuin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2007, 10:51 PM   #19
postmortem
Notebook Consultant
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Iowa, US
Posts: 133
Rep Power: 0 postmortem has a little shameless behaviour in the past
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

there are ~0 mainstream apps that are 64-bit , so you end up running 32-bit apps in 64-bit system, what is advantage of that?
postmortem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2007, 02:21 AM   #20
DoubleBlack
Notebook Deity
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,086
Rep Power: 13 DoubleBlack will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

Quote:
Originally Posted by trebuin View Post
I took a look at the hardware and yea, you're right. I did some research as to how I managed to pull that one out. I went to dell's 32 bit driver site for the m1330 and checked the hardware vs the dell drivers and guess what, they're using a synaptics on it too. It works really great, I actually prefer synaptics to the Alps, but if there's enough interest, I have a 64 bit alps driver too.

Thanks for letting me know.
No, it shows this:

http://support.dell.com/support/down...&fileid=207655

That's an Alps 32-bit driver...I am using the Alps 64-bit driver on my 1420, but I'm interested about this synaptics driver you are using...it really works?!? Why do you prefer it over the Alps one? Maybe I'll give it a try if you link me to your direct link?
__________________
Dell E1420 w/ TrueLife // Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 | 4GB 667Ghz RAM | 160GB 7200RPM HDD | nVidia 8400GS | Intel 4965AGN | Dell Bluetooth 355 (2.0+EDR) | Webcam | 9-Cell and 6-Cell | CompleteCare/LoJack
DoubleBlack is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:02 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

TechTarget provides enterprise IT professionals with the information they need to perform their jobs - from developing strategy, to making cost-effective IT purchase decisions and managing their organizations' IT projects - with its network of technology-specific Web sites, events and magazines.

TechTarget Corporate Web Site  |  About Us  |  Advertising  |  Site Map  |  Contact Us  |  Submit Review  |  RSS Feeds  |  Jobs




All Rights Reserved, Copyright 1999 - 2007, TechTarget | Read our Privacy Policy
  TechTarget - The Most Targeted IT Media