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11-03-2009, 01:12 PM
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Notebook Prophet
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
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Originally Posted by Tomy B.
davepermen, did You have any other problems with G1 Intel SSDs (8 MB partition for example)?
And does G1 have garbage collection?
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obviously no, and garbage collection is just a fancy term (i know it from programming since years, coding in .NET) for something that is just logical. yes, intel do gc since day one, they always did. the others just started later, and had to market it somehow.
so i stay with "no, it doesn't" as it does enough to not ever need any of the fancy marketing words, but yes, of course, it sort of does.
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11-03-2009, 01:15 PM
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#132
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Notebook Prophet
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
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Originally Posted by MegaMan X
well...not really, but its a nagging feeling that I'm running Windows 7 with no TRIM, and I thought I had GC...but I guess the benchmarks say otherwise.
I dont know, I just feel like I wasted money on these SSDs. I wish I had saved my money and bought the Intel or OCZ SSDs instead.
I do have to ask though, without GC and TRIM, is there anything I can do restore the drives back to "new" performance? Like reformat? Or does that not even work?
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how's your raid0 set up? might make them under-perform. other than that, samsungs suck as i've stated more than once. they just don't 'feel fast', which is, well, sort of the result you feel like you wasted money. they still are fast, but not in the cases needed the most: they don't deliver the same snappiness as other drives.
still, tell your raid0 setup, stripesize and such. it should be as big as possible.
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11-03-2009, 01:20 PM
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#133
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Notebook Consultant
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
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Originally Posted by tilleroftheearth
Tomy B.
I have read numerous times (on this forum as well) that Acronis True Image does not keep the original alignment unless you are restoring to the exact same hard drive and restoring the whole drive (and not only the Windows partition).
When either of these conditions fail, or you are restoring to a different drive than what the clone was made from, then the O/S partition will not stay aligned. It will default to a 63K offset (just like Windows XP, wrongly (for SSD's) does).
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Didn't know that, so I test it and yes, it doesn't keep disk alignment if I clone one disk to another.
So I guess after cloning disk, next step is to realign disk.
BTW: it is 63 sectors, not 63 KB
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11-03-2009, 01:36 PM
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Notebook Consultant
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
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Originally Posted by davepermen
obviously no, and garbage collection is just a fancy term (i know it from programming since years, coding in .NET) for something that is just logical. yes, intel do gc since day one, they always did. the others just started later, and had to market it somehow.
so i stay with "no, it doesn't" as it does enough to not ever need any of the fancy marketing words, but yes, of course, it sort of does.
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Like You said, fancy term, but to me it just maters that it does "something".
I would really like to try Intel so I can decide do I need something like that or not, but I think that won't happen soon.
For now I'm satisfied with MasterDrive SX (Samsung PB22-J) without GC or TRIM.
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11-03-2009, 06:36 PM
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uber doomer
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
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other than that, samsungs suck as i've stated more than once. they just don't 'feel fast', which is, well, sort of the result you feel like you wasted money. they still are fast, but not in the cases needed the most: they don't deliver the same snappiness as other drives.
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Yes, you have stated more than once that Samsung drives suck and that you "feel" the Intel drives are much faster yet you have not once posted a benchmark supporting your "feel".
http://pcpitstop.com/betapit/sec.asp?conid=22776670
"see"... it's easy
Last edited by sgilmore62 : 11-03-2009 at 06:57 PM.
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11-03-2009, 06:51 PM
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#136
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Notebook Consultant
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
I am actually thinking of buying 2 x Intel X18-M 320G to make a 640G raid 0 for my vaio z. When the hell is Intel gonna move?
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11-03-2009, 08:09 PM
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#137
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Notebook Evangelist
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
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Originally Posted by Tomy B.
Didn't know that, so I test it and yes, it doesn't keep disk alignment if I clone one disk to another.
So I guess after cloning disk, next step is to realign disk.
BTW: it is 63 sectors, not 63 KB
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Thanks for verifying that.
I knew it wasn't KB, but I had to put 'something'!
Guess I hadn't rebooted my brain yet. 
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11-03-2009, 08:15 PM
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#138
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Notebook Evangelist
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
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Originally Posted by sgogeta4
I've run the beta for the past little while, but it expired today. To tell you the truth, I haven't noticed a single difference with and without eBoostr.
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sgogeta4,
The latest beta I'm using expires the end of this month for me?
http://beta.eboostr.com/download/
May I ask what your setup is with eBoostr?
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11-03-2009, 09:29 PM
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#139
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Notebook Enthusiast
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
Daveperman, to be fair, weren't your Samsung drives 1st gen MLC?
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11-03-2009, 09:55 PM
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#140
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I Love Lamp.
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Re: SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)
He had a 64gb second gen also, if I recall correctly...
And I'll be honest, tiller, I probably won't get around to testing eBooster, and I can't possibly see how it would "speed" up my system. everything I do is absolutely instant except loading in games, and that is considerably faster than any system I have used/seen. But to be honest all I use my personal laptop for is typical stuff like Internet, email, and hours and hours of gaming (warhammer for the past year, really). Of course that is not everything, but usually that's about it.
If I thought there was a remote chance it would speed up my system I would give it a try, but my storage solution is fast! 
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Last edited by Mormegil83 : 11-03-2009 at 10:06 PM.
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