Series 7 Chronos All Models: Push for SAMSUNG to implement "FIXED MODE" in BIOS

[congdoe]

Hi can anybody tell me what kind of tempertures you are getting while playing games? I get around 85 degrees Celcius gpu core while playing BF3. Is this too hot? I also notice that my gpu doesn't run at 100% while playing BF3, usually around 70-80%. I understand that it is throttling a bit to keep tempertures lower but is anyone else experiencing this? Or do I need mine serviced?

[unclewebb]

Heat will kill hardware faster, this is a pretty well known fact, and I guess that is why even YOUR disclaimer even says:
"Using ThrottleStop to overclock or over volt your CPU or to disable a laptop manufacturer's throttling scheme may damage your computer and is at your own risk. "

This warning message is intended for owners of Intel Extreme processors. The Core i based CPU in this Samsung laptop can not be over volted or over clocked using ThrottleStop.

Some Core 2 owners got a little carried away and cranked up the core VID voltage on their X9000, X9100 and QX9300 CPUs to 1.50 volts but you can NOT adjust voltage on the Core i mobile CPUs so this is no longer a safety issue.

You also can NOT adjust the CPU multiplier higher on the non-Extreme Core i processors when using ThrottleStop so with or without ThrottleStop running, your Core i CPU will be running within its Intel intended specification.

The problem is that some laptops are crippled and barely usable because of throttling. ThrottleStop provides users with some options so they can better balance performance vs heat output. You can use ThrottleStop to try and run your CPU at its rated speed or you can also use ThrottleStop to slow your CPU down to reduce power consumption and heat output which can allow you to run your GPU at full speed longer without overheating.

Not all manufacturers are honorable. Why should a user have to suffer with a crippled laptop because a manufacturer decided to be overly conservative? Some throttling schemes are beyond insane for how badly they can cripple a CPU to a fraction of its Intel rated performance. This has been going on for years because not enough users are willing to hold manufacturers accountable for the junk they sell.

If you want to learn more about the bizarre throttling scheme that Dell engineering came up with then read this paper by Randall Cotton.

throttlegate.pdf

My disgust of what Dell was up to was what originally motivated me to write ThrottleStop so users could regain control of their CPUs. It was obvious that some manufacturers had gone off the rails with overly aggressive throttling schemes.

[Ephelant]

Did you run HWiNFO to see the CPU throttling? The graphical CPU speed display shows it very clearly.

John

OK, I just ran Crysis with HWiNFO running windowed next to it. First ran it at a lower resolution on a mix of medium/low detail settings (approx 19FPS). Then I ran it on high settings at 1440 x 900 (approx 9 FPS). In both cases, the CPU does not appear to have been throttled and temp monitors show green and ok. See attached images. Am I reading this correctly?

Does this mean throttling is not the problem? Note: I am running the 32bit version of Crysis as 64bit is not available on Steam.

Thanks everyone who has contributed suggestions so far. Hopefully, we can get to the bottom of this.

I suppose if someone else can test a copy of Crysis with their Series 7, we'll know if the problem is limited to my unit.

[Ephelant]

Tweaked it to run at 64bit and got no improvement. Here is another screen showing HWiNFO, with Crysis running at 720p with high settings (about 7 FPS), and one last one on very high (about 5FPS).

No sign of throttling, right?

[Ephelant]

Well, GPU-Z has revealed the truth. Crysis refuses to recognize the AMD card. Even with High Performance selected, it only runs on the integrated Intel chip. No wonder I'm getting such crappy performance.

This blows. The 8.94 driver certainly isn't perfect.

I am surprised to see this is even playable on integrated graphics (barely).

[Ephelant]

I'm starting to wonder if GPU Z is reporting correctly though. I can't get ANYTHING to show load on the Radeon. Load constantly shows on the Intel for Portal 2, Far Cry 2, Crysis...

[Ephelant]

Update: the only application I have managed to show load on the Radeon via GPU-Z is Google Earth when switched to OpenGL rendering. I also noticed that GPU-Z indicates that "DirectX Compute" cannot be done on the Radeon (see attached screenshot). Does this mean that DirectX in general is not running on it?

Cheers in advance for any assistance. This is getting pretty frustrating.

I also tried re installing the driver from page 1 of this thread, and no change.

[spincel]

Update: the only application I have managed to show load on the Radeon via GPU-Z is Google Earth when switched to OpenGL rendering. I also noticed that GPU-Z indicates that "DirectX Compute" cannot be done on the Radeon (see attached screenshot). Does this mean that DirectX in general is not running on it?

Cheers in advance for any assistance. This is getting pretty frustrating.

I also tried re installing the driver from page 1 of this thread, and no change.

I believe the DirectXCompute is in this model. However, because of the driver, GPU-Z cannot show everything correctly. I'll check this week to see if mine driver is running fine some game. Post result later.

[John Ratsey]

No sign of throttling, right?

Correct. As you have figured out for yourself, throttling was not the caue of your problem in this case. If you want to check whether throttling can be an issue then run a program such as wPrime with the HWiNFO open.

John

[Ephelant]

I believe the DirectXCompute is in this model. However, because of the driver, GPU-Z cannot show everything correctly. I'll check this week to see if mine driver is running fine some game. Post result later.

I think you are correct - GPU-Z is not showing everything correctly. Although Crysis is seriously under-performing, there is no way an Intel HD 3000 can account for the performance I'm getting in other games, can it?

40 FPS in Far Cry 2 (all settings maxed at native Res), 40 - 50 FPS in Doom 3 (maxed with AA/AF, native res with Sikkmod effects and hi-res texture packs), 35-40 FPS in COD MW2 (native res, all settings maxed), Bioshock 1 and 2 (all maxed), Dead Space 2 (all maxed), Deus Ex HR (mix of medium / high with some AA), Medal of Honor 2010 (native res, high settings), close to 60FPS on all Source games, including Portal 2 (maxed with full AA/AF).

I know most of these titles are a few years old, but surely Intel's GPUs haven't come THAT far since then?