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26th July 2007, 08:22 PM #21
Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
Great review!
I notice you are using Vista... Would using XP give you a tiny bit more performance in those games?
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26th July 2007, 08:26 PM #22Notebook Guru
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Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
Hi, sorry if I am derailing your thread, but I'm a newbie, and I just bought the same laptop! I am about 45 minutes away from having the notebook in my hands, and I was wondering if I should install Windows x64 or Windows xp pro or Vista 32/64 bit.
I just wanted to know how it would pertain to this computer (driver compatability, gaming wise, etc).
I've never had a duo core processor, and the last computer I bought was a P4 2.4 / Geforce Ti4800SE which I've had for almost 5 years now, but I decided to spend my parent's money. I have been running XP fine, but I've heard there were performance increases with the 64 bit version, so I wanted to inquire about it before I do the deed and install the program on my new laptop.
I dont really stress my current computer out much, because I mainly play WoW and use my computer to write papers / pda files / study on internet (like Kaptest.com) etc. But I was thinking of trying out some new games too, so I wanted to know how the driver compatability would work.
Thanks! (Shout out to XoticPC and this site for helping me find the right laptop, I was almost about to buy a refurbished Dell xps 1710 like my brother :/)Last edited by tomstrife; 26th July 2007 at 08:30 PM.
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26th July 2007, 11:12 PM #23
Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
I'd recommend Vista 32-bit or 64-bit (doesn't really matter, although I'd personally choose 64-bit since it will improve gaming performance in future games (like Crysis) that are optimized for 64-bit). Definitely not 64-bit XP, since it has awful driver support (unlike 64-bit Vista, which is pretty much on-par with 32-bit Vista at this point).
It automatically stretches whatever resolution you choose to fill the whole screen (although I think you can change that), even if it's a 4:3 ratio resolution. 1680x1050 looks just fine. Even though it's a non-native resolution, it's perfectly acceptable for gaming.
Here are some screenshots - it's hard to get a really clear shot of the screen, but it shows that there's certainly not a drastic difference.
- 1920x1200
- 1680x1050
You can just barely tell a difference between the shots - look particularly at the textures on the boxes, they're just a tiny bit sharper at 1920x1200; even then it's very hard to tell from the photos. The difference is apparent in real life right after you switch the resolution, but after you start playing for a few seconds you completely forget that you're running outside of native resolution.
Your wish is my command:
- The outside of the case - it has two main sections.
- The main section. It has straps to hold the notebook in place, and a little inside pocket to put cables and stuff.
- The smaller outside pocket for mice and other accessories.
Alas, I don't have a TV Tuner. The CATV port on the side comes standard, just in case you want to add a a TV tuner card at a later date.
It might, but it wouldn't be anything significant, I wouldn't think. Nvidia's Vista drivers have improved drastically in recent months, and from what I hear they're now very close or equal to XP's performance. I wouldn't fret over Vista's performance.
Last edited by Joga; 26th July 2007 at 11:17 PM.
Sager NP5790
-17" Glossy WUXGA (1920x1200)
-Go 7950 GTX 512MB
-Core 2 Duo T7300 (2.0 GHz)
-2GB DDR2 667
-160 GB, 7200 RPM hard drive
-Windows XP Pro
Read my review here.
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26th July 2007, 11:41 PM #24Notebook Enthusiast
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Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
awesome review, been waiting awhile for this. i was looking at ur oblivion benchmarks and u had shadows turned off. could you run through woodlands w/ everything on (inc shadows) at 1680x1050?
also, do you happen to have medieval 2: total war? haha
thanks
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26th July 2007, 11:48 PM #25Notebook Guru
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Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
Cool thanks for the quick response.
Also one question about Vista 64/32, I have the same config that you have, so how is the notebook's performance with Vista (I've heard that it is a memory hog or something and it is horrid).
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26th July 2007, 11:49 PM #26
Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
'ya Know - At first I thought the orange trim was really ugly. I have to say that is growing on me. It kinda reminds me of the orange trim around the switches on my Atari 2600 - Appropiate for a gaming laptop !
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27th July 2007, 12:20 AM #27Newbie
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Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
To optimize oblivion try visiting this site.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/95...mization-guide
Also, my experience has been to go to the nvidia properties in the advanced tab and set frames rendered ahead to 1 or 0. That made a huge difference for me, give it a try.
Let me know how the dual core optimization works.
Cheers
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27th July 2007, 01:08 AM #28
Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
The differences in screenshots of FEAR are barely visible. The only thing I notice is the edge of the boxes on the sides. I just hope that the higher end 8 series will be MXM-IV (HE) compatible, and I can put one of those in there.
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27th July 2007, 01:37 AM #29Notebook Guru
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Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
Can someone with the base config run wPrime v1.53 and see how fast you finish the 32M? I think I suck and I set my computer up wrong to get such a bad score (I followed that sticky up top too).
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27th July 2007, 01:47 AM #30
Re: Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions Inside!
It's unplayable.
Settings: 1680x1050, 0xAA, 8xAF, All sliders maxed, all settings turned on, including self-shadows, grass shadows, soft shadowing, etc.
Average: 15.85 FPS.
I'm still playing around with the settings. It's strange because the framerate seems alright (on the settings I tested with on the main review - getting 20 FPS) - but it's still stuttering a lot. I think it has something to do with the Frames To Render Ahead as Lukashod said.
I set the iMinGrassSize to 120, and I still got 20 FPS, but there was a lot less stuttering.
*plays around some more*Sager NP5790
-17" Glossy WUXGA (1920x1200)
-Go 7950 GTX 512MB
-Core 2 Duo T7300 (2.0 GHz)
-2GB DDR2 667
-160 GB, 7200 RPM hard drive
-Windows XP Pro
Read my review here.
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