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    Default Clevo W-Series PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    PREMA'S CLEVO W110ER / SAGER NP6110 BIOS MOD

    The stock BIOS of the CLEVO W110ER is quite sparse and really doesn't offer the user much in the way of configurability. Thankfully NBR user Prema has shared his skillset and delved through they myriad of possible options to develop a BIOS with extra capability. I was fortunate enough to be able to beta test the BIOS and help widdle down the options to the small set of features that Clevo left enabled, although hidden, allowing us power users to configure additional features.

    Here I will offer a rundown of the features available from this BIOS and will follow up with some benchmarking and testing results that validate the changes, most at a later date, since benching takes a while, I wanted to make sure I offered a quick review of the features before the release of the BIOS just because of the additional time it takes to complete benchmarking and compile it.

    ALL PREMA MODS CAN BE FOUND AT: BIOSMODS.WORDPRESS.COM

    So let's start with the basics.

    As you can see, HWInfo64 indicates the BIOS version as RC1, which is important to note. There may still be a few bugs to work out, but for the most part I've found the options available do work and are stable. All testing was done on the code/options leading to this RC1 release, which is based on the recently available 1.03 BIOS. The full release should be available shortly after this review is posted. Make sure to keep an eye on biosmods.Wordpress.com. It's currently under construction but will be made available as soon as the final version is complete.



    This BIOS should be compatible with any Clevo W110ER variant including the Sager NP6110, Malibal Lotus W110ER, and Mythlogic Chaos 1212.

    Below are screenshots from the main screen you will see as well as details in the new "Fine Tuning" menu present on the main BIOS screen.

    MAIN SCREEN with FINE TUNING option added:



    FINE TUNING MENU:



    Features relating to tuning the system are found in the main BIOS screen under the new menu "Fine Tuning".

    IGP Overclock: Utilizing the GT Overclocking Support and GT Overclocking Frequency, the Ivy Bridge IGP HD 4000 can be overclocked in increments of 50MHz. So far I have successfully been able to clock it at 1350MHz compared to the stock 1100MHz. It will still idle at 650MHz, but at load will reach the BIOS set multiplier speed. Basically take the multiplier x 50MHz to give you max boost speed.

    GPU-Z with HD 4000 AT 1350MHz


    RAM timings and speed: With the "DIMM Profile" option, there is the option to set default RAM configuration which is on by default. Basically it will read the stock JEDEC information. However RAM timings and speed are user configurable if desired by selecting "user configuration". You can then set your timing information from all the options below the "DIMM Profile" selection. This includes DDR3 speed from 1066 up to 2667MHz! I was able to successfully clock my Samsung 1.35V 2x4GB DDR3 1600 CAS 11 RAM to run at 2133MHz with stock 1600 timings of 11-11-11-1T. There is also an option to select between XMP Profile 1 and XMP Profile 2 if your RAM supports XMP profiles.

    What can faster RAM do for you? It improves system responsiveness by an amount that is difficult to measure but readily apparent the first time you engage it. It will also allow for improved IGP performance of the HD 4000.

    CPU-Z with RAM AT 1866MHz and 2133MHz


    Aida64 Benchmark Results from Overclocked RAM:
    Spoiler :
    Stock 1600MHz


    1866MHz


    2133MHz


    ADVANCED BIOS MENU



    Moving on to the ADVANCED main BIOS menu you will notice several new options and menus. You will be able to:

    - Set SATA mode from AHCI to IDE
    - Turn boot logo on or off
    - Enable or disable the power on boot beep
    - DISABLE BATTERY LOW ALARM BEEP ! Yay!

    If any of you have taken your battery down to 5%, you will be very happy for the option to disable the battery low beep, it is nothing short of the shrill sound of a fire alarm.


    In the menus of importance are CPU Configuration and CPU PPM Configuration.


    CPU CONFIGURATION



    CPU Configuration: Aside from showing detailed information on your CPU, the most important addition here is the ability to enable or disable hyper-threading. My results from this so far have shown little to no improvement in battery life or heat output, but at times it needs to be disabled for compatability reasons.


    CPU PPM CONFIGURATION



    CPU PPM Configuration: There's several important features here to make note of.

    - EIST: Enable or disable speed step. This has many advantages. For one, allowing the CPU and integrated GPU to run full speed on battery. It should also help maintain faster speeds instead of throttling.

    - Turbo Mode: Enable or disable turbo mode. For those that want a cool running machine, turning off turbo mode can help, as can getting help with more battery life if you stress your CPU quite a bit while running unplugged. Obviously you will lose performance, but in most cases the peak non-turbo speed is more than adequate.

    - C3, C6, C7 Report: I don't use these nor do I really understand them but we were able to determine they do activate. Prema may be able to elaborate on their use.

    - Long duration power limit: This should technically allow for the CPU to run longer periods before throttling. There were a few other options that can work in conjunction with this but are disabled because it's easy to fry your computer unless you know what you're doing!

    And there you go! Many of you I know were hoping for a few other options, namely CPU core configuration. Unfortunately, while those options were in the BIOS they did not work. So we will have to hope for Clevo or Sager to implement some changes.

    Everyone should thank Prema for at least making additional features available that weren't available to us previously. The BIOS should be made available soon for your use. Keep an eye out at biosmods.wordpress.com for updates and downloads. Look for benchmark results from RAM overclocks and iGP overclocks in the near future.

    Also, please as usual, please be careful when overclocking anything as it can cause system damage in rare cases if you're not careful. Best to increase in small increments.

    Prema also noted that once this is complete he will port it over to the W15 and W17 models and is looking for beta testers for those. So PM him if you're interested in beta testing for the W15 or W17. Let me just say to ask if you are serious because it is a serious time commitment, but can be fun to do.
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    CHANGELOG (LAST UPDATE 20th April)

    Spoiler :


    UPDATE: 22nd JUNE

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod updated to version v1.1

    Changelog: – added HDD Password Feature

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 6th July

    Prema Mod v1.1 is now available for the W150ERQ/NP6165

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 7th July

    Prema Mod v1.1 is now available for the W170ER/NP6175

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 24th JULY

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod updated to version v1.2

    Changelog: - unlocked GT650M Software Overclocking Limit (credit: SVL7)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 8th August

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod v1.2 UV EDITION added

    Changelog: – GT650M undervolted (credit: Saltius & SVL7)

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    UPDATE: 19th AUGUST

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod updated to version v1.3 (UV)

    Changelog:

    - Fixed bug in boot device selection menu

    - Added Full Fan Speed Mode (Press FN+1)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 20th AUGUST

    W150ERx/NP6165 & W170ER/NP6175 Prema Mod updated to v1.2

    Changelog:

    - Fixed bug in boot device selection menu

    - updated Clevo Base to BIOS 07 & EC 04

    - unlocked GT650M Software Overclocking Limit (CREDIT: SVL7)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 27th AUGUST

    W150ERx/NP6165 & W170ER/NP6175 Prema Mod updated to v1.3

    Changelog:

    - Added Full Fan Speed Mode (Press FN+1)

    - Prema Mod version now reported in BIOS menu

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    UPDATE: 29th AUGUST

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod updated to version v1.4 (UV)

    Changelog:

    - updated Clevo Base to BIOS 04 & EC 03

    - Prema Mod version now reported in BIOS menu

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 10th SEPTEMBER


    Intel Management Engine updated to v8.1.10.1248 for:

    W110ER/NP6110
    W150ERx/NP6165
    W170ER/NP6175

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    UPDATE: 24th October


    Intel Management Engine updated to v8.1.10.1286 for:

    W110ER/NP6110
    W150ERx/NP6165
    W170ER/NP6175

    Added P170HMx/NP8170 project status page

    EDIT: Intel Management Engine Driver updated, too.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 3rd November

    Prema Mod v1.0 is now available for the W350ETx/NP6350 & W370ET/NP6370

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 5th November

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod v1.4 OV EDITION added

    Changelog:

    - GT650M overvolted (950Mhz+ @ 1.15v)
    - 60c voltage throttle removed

    (credit: Saltius & SVL7)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 12th November

    Intel Management Engine Driver updated to v8.1.10.1286

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 14th December

    Intel Management Engine & Driver updated to v8.1.20.1336
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    UPDATE: 13th January

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod updated to version v2.0

    Changelog:

    - Updated Clevo base to v09 BIOS & v06 EC (Win8 UEFI support)
    - Removed no longer functional RAM settings (THX@Clevo)
    - Sata/Raid oRom updated to v11.6.0.1702
    - GT650M OC, UV, OV Editions updated to vBIOS v80.07.58.00.A1
    - Intel GPU vBIOS updated to v2143
    - Re-enabled “Intel Rapid Start” menu
    - ME version Info now reported in BIOS
    - Added "Long Duration Turbo Time Limit" option
    - Additional HD bootlogo for BGRT/Win8 mode compatibility
    - Added Acoustic Management for HDDs
    - CPU Overclocking function unlocked for:

    4x (400mhz) extra:

    - 3720QM
    - 3740QM
    - 3820QM
    - 3840QM

    "Fully" unlocked:

    - 2920XM
    - 2960XM
    - 3920XM
    - 3940XM

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 1st February

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod updated to version v2.1

    Changelog:

    - Updated Clevo base to BIOS v1.02.11 & EC v1.02.07
    - Downgraded GT650M vBIOS to v80.07.14.00.A6
    (NVIDIA stock v80.07.58.00.A1 has a "vRAM bug")
    - Enabled Configurable TDP for XM CPUs
    - Combined EC & BIOS files into a single update
    - New UOV EDITION = energy savings & higher OC

    (UOV = All clocks undervolted & Turbo clock overvolted) Credit: SVL7

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 10th February

    W150ERx/NP6165 & W170ER/NP6175 Prema Mod updated to version v2.1

    Changelog:

    - Updated Clevo base to v16 BIOS & v07 EC (Win8 UEFI support)
    - Combined EC & BIOS files into a single update
    - Removed no longer functional RAM settings (THX @ Clevo)
    - Sata/Raid oRom updated to v11.6.0.1702
    - GT650M OC Edition updated to vBIOS v80.07.58.00.A2
    - Intel GPU vBIOS updated to v2143
    - Re-enabled “Intel Rapid Start” menu
    - ME version Info now reported in BIOS
    - Added “Long Duration Turbo Time Limit” option
    - Additional HD bootlogo for BGRT/Win8 mode compatibility
    (special version for HD/FHD screens)
    - Added Acoustic Management for HDDs
    - Enabled Configurable TDP for XM CPUs
    - CPU Overclocking function unlocked for:

    4x (400mhz) extra:

    - 3720QM
    - 3740QM
    - 3820QM
    - 3840QM

    “Fully” unlocked:

    - 2920XM
    - 2960XM
    - 3920XM
    - 3940XM

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 25th February

    W350ET/NP6350 & W370ET/NP6370 Prema Mod updated to version v2.1

    Changelog:

    - FN+1 FULL FAN SPEED option added
    - Updated Clevo base to v20 BIOS & v09 EC (Win8 UEFI support)
    - Combined EC & BIOS files into a single update
    - Removed no longer functional RAM settings (THX @ Clevo)
    - Sata/Raid roms updated to v12.0.0.1783 (Legacy & EFI)
    - GT660M OC Edition updated to vBIOS v80.07.24.00.71
    - Intel GPU vBIOS updated to v2143
    - Re-enabled “Intel Rapid Start” menu
    - ME version Info now reported in BIOS
    - Added “Long Duration Turbo Time Limit” option
    - Additional HD bootlogo for BGRT/Win8 mode compatibility
    (special version for HD/FHD screens)
    - Added Acoustic Management for HDDs
    - Enabled Configurable TDP for Ivy Bridge XM CPUs
    - CPU Overclocking function unlocked for:

    4x (400mhz) extra:

    - 3720QM
    - 3740QM
    - 3820QM
    - 3840QM

    “Fully” unlocked:

    - 2920XM
    - 2960XM
    - 3920XM
    - 3940XM

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 19th March

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod Win7 updated to version v1.5:

    - Combined EC & BIOS files into a single update (BIOS 04 EC 03)
    - Sata/Raid ROMs updated to v12.0.0.1783 (Legacy & /UEFI)
    - GT650M UOV EDITION added (energy savings & higher OC) (CREDIT: SVL7)
    (UOV = All clocks undervolted & Turbo clock overvolted)
    - Intel GPU vBIOS updated to v2143
    - ME version Info now reported in BIOS
    - Added “Long Duration Turbo Time Limit” option
    - Added Acoustic Management for HDDs
    - Enabled Configurable TDP for Ivy Bridge XM CPUs
    - RealTek PXE ROM updated to v2.53
    - Added Sandy Bridge B-0 (06A1) CPU-MicroCode Rev. 07
    - Sandy Bridge D-2,Q-0 (06A7) CPU-MicroCode updated to Rev. 28
    - Ivy Bridge D-0 (06A6) CPU-MicroCode updated to Rev. 04
    - Ivy Bridge E-1 (06A9) CPU-MicroCode updated to Rev.17
    - Prema Mod boot logo updated to v2
    - CPU Overclocking function unlocked for:

    4x (400mhz) extra:

    - 3720QM
    - 3740QM
    - 3820QM
    - 3840QM

    “Fully” unlocked:

    - 2920XM
    - 2960XM
    - 3920XM
    - 3940XM

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 22nd March

    Prema Mod v1.0.x for Clevo P-EM- / Sager NP9-Series released:

    - Initial release
    - Merged BIOS & EC into a single file
    - Added full fan speed mode (Press FN+9 to toggle on/off)
    - Legacy & EFI Sata/Raid ROM updated to v12.0.0.1783 (TRIM)
    - Enabled RAID on all models (0,1,5,10)
    - Promoted “Configurable TDP” to “UP”-state (P15xEM models)
    - Raised Long Duration Turbo Time to 120s (Longer Turbo Boost)
    - T1 command rate for all 4 RAM DIMMs (snappier)
    - Added custom boot logo v2 (Legacy & BGRT)
    - Win8 boot logo now “blends in” with loading screen
    - Fixed boot logo overlay bug of stock BIOS (P370EMx)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: 27th March

    OV EDITION of Prema Mod v2.1 for W1x0ER/NP61x5 added:

    - GT650M overvolted (950Mhz+ @ 1.112v) (CREDIT: SVL7)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    UPDATE: 27th March

    OV EDITION of Prema Mod v2.1 for W3x0ET/NP63x0 added:

    - GT660M overvolted (950Mhz+ @ 1.112v) (CREDIT: SVL7)

    Prema Mod for Clevo P-EM- / Sager NP9-Series updated to v1.0.2:

    - P15x0EM BIOS base updated to v17
    - P151EM fixed FN+9 ‘bug’
    - Legacy & EFI Sata/Raid ROM updated to v12.5.0.1815 (TRIM)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    UPDATE: 18th April

    Prema Mod for Clevo P-EM- / Sager NP9-Series updated to v1.0.3:

    - Updated Clevo base to v17 (P170EM)
    - Legacy RAID oROM downgraded to v11.6.0.1702 (TRIM without WIN7 RAID boot delay bug)
    - Added 2T EDITION (Tad slower, but proven more stable with difficult RAM like 2133Mhz & 32GB)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    UPDATE: 20th April

    Prema Mod for Clevo P-EM- / Sager NP9-Series updated to v1.0.4:

    - Legacy & UEFI Sata/Raid ROM updated to v12.6.0.1867 (LATEST, TRIM & NO BOOT DELAY)
    - Fixed Full Fan bug for P151EM > USE FN+1 (this time for real)

    Last edited by Prema; 20th April 2013 at 09:08 AM.
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    Default re: Clevo W-Series PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Wow this is really great.

    I still undecided between the P150EM and W110ER.. but that's not valid on this topic

    Great job Prema and HT, really appreciate it! Love helping people out, and surely you guys do too!!

    +rep!! (if I had some left, just rep'd prema, going to rep HT asap)

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    Default re: Clevo W-Series PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Between the OC and faster RAM the HD4000 should get quite a boost. If you could run some benchmarks on it I'd be grateful, want to see how fast it can go. Also +rep.
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    Default re: Clevo W-Series PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Quote Originally Posted by E.Blar View Post
    Between the OC and faster RAM the HD4000 should get quite a boost. If you could run some benchmarks on it I'd be grateful, want to see how fast it can go. Also +rep.
    Working on those benches...

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    Default re: Clevo W-Series PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Is the BIOS unlocked, I mean, do you guys happen to know whether you could tweak things like multiplier with ThrottleStop? Thanks.

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    Default re: Clevo W-Series PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Quote Originally Posted by ukyo View Post
    Is the BIOS unlocked, I mean, do you guys happen to know whether you could tweak things like multiplier with ThrottleStop? Thanks.
    We tested the multiplier option with a 3610QM and it did not work! (even below stock multis didn't work)
    On Alienware some non-XM IB CPUs allow the multi to be raised by 4 steps.
    So if future tests show different results the option will return.
    That being said, on Clevos that BIOS option never had an effect, even for unlocked XM CPUs...

    What works in BIOS is raising the TDP to make sure it reaches the full turbo and you guys get what you paid for.
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    Default re: Clevo W-Series PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Great job guys, It amazes me at times how dedicated some members of these forums are. I salute you both for undertaking this task, to Prema for spending time and effort on this not to mention the knowledge you need to do this job.
    To HTW for having the guts to be the guinea pig and sacrificing his machine and time for the greater good.
    Thanks !
    Really interested to see the results


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    Default re: Clevo W-Series PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Prema View Post
    What works in BIOS is raising the TDP to make sure it reaches the full turbo
    Hi there. Does this mean that it solves the CPU throttling problem while the 650M is active? Can you tell us how to do it when you release the BIOS?
    Last edited by LaptopUserExtreme; 2nd June 2012 at 01:03 AM.

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    Default re: Clevo W-Series PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Quote Originally Posted by LaptopUserExtreme View Post
    Hi there. Does this mean that it solves the CPU throttling problem while the 650M is active? Can you tell us how to do it when you release the BIOS?
    The long-term TDP feature allows your CPU to reach advertised Turbo Boost Mhz and (in an ideal scenario) maintain it for longer.

    The disabled Turbo during enabled GT650M is another issue that I may be able to address in a future release once I have my own W110 and don`t risk bricking other peoples stuff.
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