**Official Clevo W150ERQ / Sager NP6165 Owner's Lounge**

[Rauch]

Unfortunately the max Turbo Boost speed is not a guarantee, especially on laptops. That is the max frequency it can run provided that there is enough thermal headroom. In laptops this is likely very difficult to do so it's normal to see a few hundred megahertz missing from the max Turbo Boost clockspeed. My previous laptop with a Sandy Bridge CPU couldn't hit the max Turbo Boost frequency either, it was usually 100-200mhz under.

Way to crush my dreams.

Oh well, no big deal. With and without the Turbo Boost, Ivy Bridge performs very well and hasn't given me a single issue yet.

I do wonder if there's a way to find the limit on this "thermal headroom".

[autobulb]

Way to crush my dreams.

Oh well, no big deal. With and without the Turbo Boost, Ivy Bridge performs very well and hasn't given me a single issue yet.

I do wonder if there's a way to find the limit on this "thermal headroom".

I edited my last post because I read the article someone mentioned, here is the edit portion of my post:

I read the (translated) article that someone had previously mentioned and the temperatures they measure seems to support my theory. At 2.1GHZ (no Turbo Boost) and full CPU/GPU load the temperatures are very, very high in the mid 90's C for CPU and almost 90 C for the GPU. Even if Turbo Boost wasn't disabled when the GPU is on, I doubt it could increase it's clockspeed at all due to the high temperatures. Unfortunately it just seems like Clevo's cooling system is (yet again) rather inadequate for the components used.

Perhaps you can find the guidelines for how Turbo Boost works in Intel's papers, if they publish that to the public. I'm not sure.

[Rauch]

I edited my last post because I read the article someone mentioned, here is the edit portion of my post:

I read the (translated) article that someone had previously mentioned and the temperatures they measure seems to support my theory. At 2.1GHZ (no Turbo Boost) and full CPU/GPU load the temperatures are very, very high in the mid 90's C for CPU and almost 90 C for the GPU. Even if Turbo Boost wasn't disabled when the GPU is on, I doubt it could increase it's clockspeed at all due to the high temperatures. Unfortunately it just seems like Clevo's cooling system is (yet again) rather inadequate for the components used.

Perhaps you can find the guidelines for how Turbo Boost works in Intel's papers, if they publish that to the public. I'm not sure.

Interesting, let me reread that article... Full CPU load I haven't gone above 86 C, and that's sitting on a wooden desk with no notebook cooler.

[autobulb]

Interesting, let me reread that article... Full CPU load I haven't gone above 86 C, and that's sitting on a wooden desk with no notebook cooler.

The 95's C temps they got was CPU and GPU, full load.

It seems like you have to compromise with the balance of non-Turbo Boost speed plus GPU, and Turbo Boost with no discrete GPU. Seems reasonable to me, to be honest.

[Rauch]

The 95's C temps they got was CPU and GPU, full load.

It seems like you have to compromise with the balance of non-Turbo Boost speed plus GPU, and Turbo Boost with no discrete GPU. Seems reasonable to me, to be honest.

I apologize for my misunderstanding. Just ran Furmark & Prime95 myself. I'm looking at a 91 C Max with the GPU at 78 C. Now the question is: Even if they were to unlock the GPU & Turbo Boost, would it be enough to raise it 10 C to the Max Temp of the processor @ 105 C? I suppose, more importantly, would the Processor see any damage at Intel's rated temperature.

Regardless, I'm all for extra cooling & more noise for the complete output of the notebook.

But hey, it's all up to Clevo in the end. Regardless, they left us with another excellent product.

[autobulb]

I apologize for my misunderstanding. Just ran Furmark & Prime95 myself. I'm looking at a 91 C Max with the GPU at 78 C. Now the question is: Even if they were to unlock the GPU & Turbo Boost, would it be enough to raise it 10 C to the Max Temp of the processor @ 105 C? I suppose, more importantly, would the Processor see any damage at Intel's rated temperature.

Regardless, I'm all for extra cooling & more noise for the complete output of the notebook.

But hey, it's all up to Clevo in the end. Regardless, they left us with another excellent product.

I don't know the intricacies of how Turbo Boost operates. I also don't know if the CPU starts to throttle at the max rated temperature or shuts down at that temp. Either way the 90's is a pretty high ceiling and I certainly wouldn't expect to gain a whopping 1GHZ more clockspeed at that temperature.

Some quick Googling shows that the CPU starts to throttle at ~5C below Tjunction Max and then shuts down completely at Tjunction Max. I'm not sure if Intel's rating is Tjunction Max. If so, if you hit that temperature your computer will shut down to avoid damage, so yeah, you definitely don't want to be peeking into the 100's which seems likely if you tried to TB with a loaded GPU.

[plancy]

86C might be pretty high depending on what you mean by "Full Load", which is subjective. I want that to mean the CPU and GPU running 90-100% load, or at least 90-100% CPU load for a good amount of time.

[Composer]

Every laptop temperature varies even if it's the same model. It depends on whether you're using the default thermal paste or something like IC Diamond/Arctic Silver 5. Also has anyone tried lapping the heatsink? I did that for my IBM T61 and desktop CPU, it helped drop temperatures even more.

[plancy]

lapping? I don't know what that means

edit: googled it, you sand down the part that touches the processor die basically?

I might try this, but don't know how it'd turn out if I do it myself.

[Composer]

lapping? I don't know what that means

edit: googled it, you sand down the part that touches the processor die basically?

I might try this, but don't know how it'd turn out if I do it myself.

I wouldn't recommend doing it to the CPU because it'll void your warranty. You can still do it to the heatsink though. There are a lot of guides online, you go through a variety of sandpaper grit until you finish with a very high one (2500~) It turns it almost to a mirror-like finish. I saw around a 5 Celsius difference before and after. I was just curious if anyone had done it yet.