**Official Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM Owners Lounge**

[Larry@LPC-Digital]

Hi everyone just joined this forum because I recently found out about the x7200 and really wanted to get one but disliked the fact that there was no back lit keyboard, I am currently deployed to Afghanistan and I was wondering if any of you knew who offered the best military discount out of the resellers? I know Malibal offers a measly 5% discount and haven't really had the time to do further research because of "work" All of my buddies are getting Mx18s for 20%+ off and are pushing me too also but this is my second deployment and I see more in my future and really need a solid desktop replacement, thanks for the help guys

Hi Dan,

Welcome to the forum! We all appreciate your work in the military in Afghanistan!

This model that will start preorders February 6th and should be an excellent machine for you. It is the most cutting edge machine released to date!

The Clevo-Sager models do not have the headroom to cut much as I am sure that all the other resellers will verify. Clevo-Sager models are already at a discount at there posted prices on the various websites.

Dell-Alienware put the headroom in to allow for such cuts as 20% or so. This NEVER happens for the Clevo-Sager models.

I have been working with Clevo-Sager since 1996 and this is the situation.

What you can do is to email the resellers and see what is the best value you can get for your money. Get the bottom line on your configuration shipped to you.

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[jclausius]

I know Malibal offers a measly 5% discount... All of my buddies are getting Mx18s for 20%+ off

But what is your purchase price? AW's usually run quite a bit higher.

All things being equal on similarly configured laptops, 5% off of %1500 would still be better than 20% off of $2500.

[Aikimox]

Hi Dan,

Welcome to the forum! We all appreciate your work in the military in Afghanistan!

This model that will start preorders February 6th and should be an excellent machine for you. It is the most cutting edge machine released to date!

The Clevo-Sager models do not have the headroom to cut much as I am sure that all the other resellers will verify. Clevo-Sager models are already at a discount at there posted prices on the various websites.

Dell-Alienware put the headroom in to allow for such cuts as 20% or so. This NEVER happens for the Clevo-Sager models.

I have been working with Clevo-Sager since 1996 and this is the situation.

What you can do is to email the resellers and see what is the best value you can get for your money. Get the bottom line on your configuration shipped to you.

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But what is your purchase price? AW's usually run quite a bit higher.

All things being equal on similarly configured laptops, 5% off of %1500 would still be better than 20% off of $2500.

Sorry guys, but that's not true. I agree on the fact that Sager notebooks have a pretty defined price with minimal possible discounts, but your claim that other vendors charge quite a bit more is incorrect. I have just configured a x7200 with the xtreme CPU, 2x580Ms, 2x500gb HDDs and got ~4000$ price at Malibal and ExoticPC. For comparison, a Alienware M18x with xtreme CPU, 2x580ms, 2x500gb HDDs, is now on sale for 3,699 at Dell.com. they also accept military discounts and you can get 20% off, comes down to 2774! Not to mention that the AW comes with free Razer NAGA Epic MMO gaming mouse. C'mon, let's at least be real.

In addition, Dell has a Next Business Day warranty even for soldiers in Afghanistan, so if something ever happens to the system, you won't need to send it overseas

I agree though the NP9270 is gonna be one hot seller

Hi everyone just joined this forum because I recently found out about the x7200 and really wanted to get one but disliked the fact that there was no back lit keyboard, I am currently deployed to Afghanistan and I was wondering if any of you knew who offered the best military discount out of the resellers? I know Malibal offers a measly 5% discount and haven't really had the time to do further research because of "work" All of my buddies are getting Mx18s for 20%+ off and are pushing me too also but this is my second deployment and I see more in my future and really need a solid desktop replacement, thanks for the help guys

Now, it all comes down to your personal preferences. X7200 and NP9270 are unique systems with desktop CPU and 3HDD bays, upgradeable screens and more. AW M18x on the other hand has a slight edge in performance + decent overclocking potential, NBD Warranty, 5-6 hours battery, backlit keyboard, wirelessHD, etc. Price wise, the AW wins hands down, as you can get one today for almost half the price of an equally configured x7200.

Regardless of what system you pick, you'll indubitably enjoy it

[jclausius]

This response if off topic of the tread, but I wanted to post my final response to this tangent.

I'm not seeing what Aikimox is seeing. I just did two builds, and it supports my previous post. So, I stand by it. Perhaps the Build above has some coupon or something else? Perhaps the difference in price of the 580s are less than difference in price of the 560s? You did mention a sale, but I didn't see it when I went in and just did a system build.

In any case, I just built these two systems:
x7200 - i7-970 Hexcore, 2x nVidia 560s (SLI), 12GB RAM, Momentus XT 1stGen (500GB), Std DVD +R/W, Intel Centrino Ultimate 6300, Win7 Pro.
Price :

Spoiler :

$2604.22 @ 5% discount - $2474.00.

AW M18X - i7 2860QM Quadcore, 2x nVidia 560s (SLI), 8GB RAM, Momentus XT 1stGen(500GB), Std DVD+R/W, Killer Wireless-N 1103, Win7 Pro
Price :

Spoiler :

$3209 @ 20% discount - $2567.20

About the only difference is I didn't know what to pick in regards to CPU. So, I just went w/ the Dell/AW recommended. Also note, if you add extended warranties (which I would recommend to anyone for high end laptops), the Clevo was ~$150 @ 2yr and ~$280 for 3yr. Dell/AW was ~$200 @ 2yr and ~$300 @ 3yr.

Finally, this is to Dan. Sager offers a 3% discount if you use cash. Check to see if that can be used in addition to your military discount. If it does, that would get you an 8% discount instead of 5%. Do builds on multiple laptops (including AW, Sager, and Clevo, and other lappy vendors if you want). Research things, and find the best deal you can. Also, sending a private message / email to vendors on this forum may also let you find other discounts. Once you find a system, since your in charge of your own finances, pick the one that best suits your needs and place your order! Good Luck.

[Aikimox]

@Jclausius,

I said, if you get the today's special package, not configure from scratch. (XM CPU + 580MSLI) I will post the links shortly...


Edit: here you go. the price is before a 20% military discount.

[Larry@LPC-Digital]

Sorry guys, but that's not true. I agree on the fact that Sager notebooks have a pretty defined price with minimal possible discounts, but your claim that other vendors charge quite a bit more is incorrect.......

Sorry I should have been more clear...

I did not mean to indicate that Dell/Alienware charges more for their machines than Clevo-Sager.

I do know that with special coupons and other discounts you can get a REALLY GREAT deal. I myself have owned a M17X so I know.

The point I was trying to make was that there is NO provision for Clevo-Sager resellers to cut for example 20% off the posted price...that's all.

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[ettornio]

Back on topic:

Will any resellers be doing video previews/reviews of the P270WM? I've noticed XoticPC has a 30+ minute review of one of MSI's latest laptops. I'd like something similar for the P270WM that goes very in-depth. Justin W. (I think that's who does Xotic's reviews?) will have a field day with the P270WM! Just like he did with the X7200, hehe.

[Aikimox]

Sorry I should have been more clear...

I did not mean to indicate that Dell/Alienware charges more for their machines than Clevo-Sager.

I do know that with special coupons and other discounts you can get a REALLY GREAT deal. I myself have owned a M17X so I know.

The point I was trying to make was that there is NO provision for Clevo-Sager resellers to cut for example 20% off the posted price...that's all.

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That's true. I'd also add that unlike Dell, HP and other vendors, Clevo doesn't overprice the RAM and HDD upgrades, which is very good selling point especially for those who don't wish to bother with aftermarket upgrades.

Back on topic:

Will any resellers be doing video previews/reviews of the P270WM? I've noticed XoticPC has a 30+ minute review of one of MSI's latest laptops. I'd like something similar for the P270WM that goes very in-depth. Justin W. (I think that's who does Xotic's reviews?) will have a field day with the P270WM! Just like he did with the X7200, hehe.

That would be great indeed.


Edit: I hope, those resellers who's gonna make the first reviews, can focus on the new backlit keyboard, it's quality and the backlight feature. Also, would be great to see a Wprime1.55 1024m run with temps, the new CPU HS looks more robust but numbers would tell a better story.

Thanks in advance

[Dan Rowan]

Thanks alot for the information gentlemen, a thousand apologies that I dont have the time to respond to each one of you individually thank you all for your input and sorry for throwing this thread into a different tangent for a page or two, I hope to be back after purchasing this laptop and having more free time, thank you all again!

[DGDXGDG]

just see cpu temp test, fn+1 on, room temp about 10c
15/35 min burn in

note aida64 not as heavy as prime95/linx......

asking the guy to take a pic of its 580m heatsink