**M570TU/ETU (Sager 5796/5797) Owners Thread**

[Soviet Sunrise]

I've been using this machine for the majority of the past semester and will continue to use it throughout the next two semesters, or three. I find it just as mobile as my two older laptops. When configured correctly, you can get around 150 minutes of battery time with a QX9300 and an undervolted GTX 280M. You can imagine how much longer if the CPU was undervolted too. Just make sure you activate silent mode when you are in a smaller class since that CPU fan can really p*ss some people off.

Having a machine that can swallow all my MATLAB arrays and all my other engineering apps is a godsend. The WUXGA screen gives you plenty of desktop real estate for tiling up multiple windows. It is a true mobile workstation. Though if you still want similar capabilities but in a more portable package, the M860TU would be your next choice.

[lovetap]

I am going to go to college as an electrical engineering major and been trying to decide between the M570ETU and M860TU for some time now. I've been having doubts about buying the M570 for school but this post drove most of it away.

Also have you been taking this to class regularly? Did you have any difficulties at all?

And theres no heating problem with m570etu right? I heard about HDD getting hot in M860etu and I don't want any heating problems while gaming or using the laptop for a long time.

[Soviet Sunrise]

When I used to live on campus, I frequently brought my notebook with me as I did not need to take along any of my engineering books. For the times that I did not need it, I guess I could say that I would go with a more portable solution, which is why I am waiting for Clevo to release their M811L netbook. From this semester on, I won't be living on campus anymore since I bought a condo and will most likely be taking the bus to school. I'm not saying that the M570TU is clunky or anything; I'd still pick it again over the M860TU for school. But the M570TU is sometimes too much cowbell for those days when I only need to type up notes or a few papers, you know what I mean? However, when it's crunch time during midterms of finals, I'd take my M570TU along with me as nothing can beat having a large workstation while studying at your favorite spot such as a coffeeshop.

Both the M570TU and M860TU do not have heating problems when used for schoolwork. On both systems, as long as you properly install the drivers, there is nothing to worry about. It is ~80*F right now and I am only using a passive notebook cooler. My HDD never exceeds 48*C and I have been thrashing my hard drive with torrents since last night.

For M860TU users, a good remedy is to install a heatsink onto the hard drive as it does not have one like the M570TU. Purchase a 2mm thick aluminium or copper sheet and cut it to the size of the underside of the hard drive. Stick it on with thermal tape and you got yourself a cooler hard drive. It probably won't cost you more than $10 to get the sheet metal and metal shears. Or if you want it cut professionally, you can always take it to The Home Depot and have them cut the metal to the size you want. I would do this with my own hard drive, but it already has an aluminium heatsink on it and runs cool enough already.

[lovetap]

Thanks for all your help

Now I am pretty much sold on NP5797 but I would like to ask you couple more things.
Do you have any suggestions for notebook backpack? and I was thinking about getting the NC2000 cooler but is there something better out there?
Lastly, do you have any tips on not having your laptop stolen in dorms? I'll probably pick up a Kensington lock so in addition to that is there other precaution i can take? I'd really hate to lose my laptop to some thief and I heard that its not that uncommon.

[Soviet Sunrise]

I use a Wenger Ibex. I think I bought mine for about $40 on eBay before. It sure beats out paying the $70 retail at Best Buy. http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

The Zalman NC2000 and NZXT Cryo LX are the top picks for larger notebooks such as the M570TU. Either one will do the job. However, if you want to stay portable, go with the NC2000.

The biggest tip for not having your laptop stolen is to use common sense and responsibility. When you dorm with your roommate, go over basic stuff like closing and locking the door before heading out. My past roommates never had a problem with that, rather it was me that was the problem, haha. Nothing bad happened though, I can assure you. I've studied martial arts for over a decade and people know not to mess me and my roommate's dorm. Though that is mainly because I still have a short temper that I am trying my best to overcome, and that I won't stop until I find them. But you still must treat your dorm with respect. If you're going to resort to a lock as a solution, I would suggest you hide the notebook instead of locking it down.

[anothergeek]

I was comparing the new MSI GT729's pricing to the NP5797, and noticed something lame... you can no longer option for the WSXGA+ screen, it's only WUXGA. I like the WSXGA screen for gaming because I prefer having the extra performance for AA. Oh well, just makes my rig even more valuable, hah...

[Macleod of the Clan]

Will there ever be another mobile Core 2 Quad released or is the QX9300 the end of the line for us?

I hate intel.

[Soviet Sunrise]

Will there ever be another mobile Core 2 Quad released or is the QX9300 the end of the line for us?

I hate intel.

No, there will not be another C2D or C2Q release. The QX9300 is the last Penryn mobile quad core.

Why do you hate Intel?

[Macleod of the Clan]

Well, after all that they had pulled for "montevina" just to lead us like lemmings off of a cliff, I'd say its warranted.
I mean, getting rid of the fsb for a new line isn't any reason to cut everyone else with an fsb off from future cpu innovations 'period' - every current Nehalem 'perk' not concerned with the DMI could reasonably have featured on future core 2 products. Hyperthreading could have found a nice home on my own machine...
And to end the line so harshly, with a complete change in architecture is horrendous. They should have done it in a modular fashion - so that we could have replaced the fsb and some parts and moved on. Now, our best and only upgrade is and will be to an already year-old CPU...

[lovetap]

After couple more days of thinking, I finally ordered my laptop

Sager NP5797 Custom Sager Notebook (Built on Clevo M570ETU)
- Display: 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Cl
- Arctic Silver: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Dead Pixel Policy: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Processor: ~Intel® P8700 45nm "Montevina" C
- Video Card: nVidia GeForce GTX 280M 1,024MB
- External Graphics Card: No External Graphics Card
- External Monitor Video Adapter: No Video Adapter
- Ram: ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Chan
- Intel® Robson Turbo Memory: None Standard--
- Exterior Finish: NP579x Silver Frame Trim
- Optical Drive: ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +
- Primary Hard Drive: ~ 250GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 3
- External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive
- Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Wireless Network: Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 530
- Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory
- Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- TV Tuner: No TV Tuner
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audi
- Case: Basic Black Business Case - Incl
- Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- Car Adapter: No Car Adapter
- Spare AC Adapter: None Standard*
- Port Replicator / Dock / Adapter: No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- Mouse / Keyboard Accessories: No External Keyboard or Mouse
- Notebook Cooler: No Notebook Cooler