Apple Updates MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Insane New 2880x1800 Notebook Display Discussion

[J.R. Nelson]

At today's WorldWide Developers' Conference in California, Apple just pushed the boundaries of laptop tech once more, updating their notebook lineup with 2880x1800 displays.

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[Jerry Jackson]

This just drives home the fact that notebook PC makers need to stop using the pathetic 1366x768 resolutions on premium notebooks. If you want to market a new laptop as a premium product in needs to have a resolution that consumers will interpret as being a "premium" spec.

[invisible]

I noticed today at the Lenovo product page that you can order a T530 with a 1900x1080 screen. I don't know if it's an FHD, but I hope this trend continues and spills over to other notebook makers.

[Pseudorandom]

I wonder if the retina 15 inch screen will suffer the same high power consumption as the new iPad's retina display. Or maybe Sharp managed to pump out sufficient quantities of IGZO panels fast enough this time around.

btw, FHD in the T5x0 Thinkpads is not new. The old T520 had it as well.

[kto]

I'm a long time Windows user and have never owned a Mac.

Looking at the specs and price of the Retina MBP, it's quite apparent how much "PC" makers have been dragging their heels, and how much consumers have simply accepted mediocre 16:9 displays, erratic multi-touch trackpads, oversized form factors, and terrible customer support - even in the "premium" segment. Even if you pay for a business class machine, you still end up with overweight, oversized, and underspeced (e.g. terrible graphic cards) machines like the Dell Latitude E6xxx series. You also end up paying extra for a decent screen (IMHO should be standard on business class machines).

Bravo Apple. If I was in the market for a laptop today I'd buy the Retina MBP. You are the company that is truly innovating. I only hope that Windows laptops makers try to follow sooner than later.

I'm curious as to who is going to buy the $2199 MBP over the $2199 Retina version. Is Apple purposefully trying to push people to the Retina version?

[J.R. Nelson]

Can we talk about how my Dell Inspiron 9100 from a million years ago shipped with a 1920x1200 panel and it's taken this long for people to start taking them seriously (except Sony; I love you, you quirky 13-inch laptop with a 1080p display).

I'm a long time Windows user and have never owned a Mac.

Looking at the specs and price of the Retina MBP, it's quite apparent how much "PC" makers have been dragging their heels, and how much consumers have simply accepted mediocre 16:9 displays, erratic multi-touch trackpads, oversized form factors, and terrible customer support - even in the "premium" segment. Even if you pay for a business class machine, you still end up with overweight, oversized, and underspeced (e.g. terrible graphic cards) machines like the Dell Latitude E6xxx series.

Bravo Apple. If I was in the market for a laptop today I'd buy the Retina MBP. You are the company that is truly innovating. I only hope that Windows laptops makers try to follow.

I'm curious as to who is going to buy the $2199 MBP over the $2199 Retina version. Is Apple purposefully trying to push people to the Retina version?

I'm betting it's to prevent people from whining about not having a MacBook Pro with Gig-E or an optical drive.

[sgogeta4]

Looking at the specs and price of the Retina MBP, it's quite apparent how much "PC" makers have been dragging their heels, and how much consumers have simply accepted mediocre 16:9 displays, erratic multi-touch trackpads, oversized form factors, and terrible customer support - even in the "premium" segment. Even if you pay for a business class machine, you still end up with overweight, oversized, and underspeced (e.g. terrible graphic cards) machines like the Dell Latitude E6xxx series. You also end up paying extra for a decent screen (IMHO should be standard on business class machines).

I have to disagree with several points. Business machines have excellent support with many more options compared to Apple (yes, I've owned both and can compare them). Dell and Lenovo are much cheaper than Apple since they get many more discounts and if you compare similarly priced machines, the workstation models destroy the Apple in pretty much every hardware aspect. Lenovo, Dell and HP all offer ips panels in certain models and their fhd tn panels are among the best out there. The problem with retina displays in windows is that software companies have yet to implement good scaling and why I chose not to get a fhd display, let alone consider a retina display.

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[kto]

Can we talk about how my Dell Inspiron 9100 from a million years ago shipped with a 1920x1200 panel and it's taken this long for people to start taking them seriously (except Sony; I love you, you quirky 13-inch laptop with a 1080p display).

I think that's exactly what's so sad about screens nowadays. I also had an older Inspiron that had a nice screen. It's depressing to think about how long we've been waiting for things to go back to how they were 6+ years ago.

Lenovo, Dell and HP all offer ips panels in certain models and their fhd tn panels are among the best out there.

The rest of your post is a bigger debate than I care to get into, but I'll address this point. I agree that you can get good FHD panels, but you also have to pay for them. Looking back 6+ years, I would have expected most standard screens to be "decent" by this point. Instead the industry has regressed to the point where many of the standard screens are beyond mediocre, forcing the buyer to pony up for a better panel just so photos look okay (read: not washed out, black color actually looks black) and so you can avoid seeing color differences when looking at the at top and bottom of the screen.

[chen]

This just drives home the fact that notebook PC makers need to stop using the pathetic 1366x768 resolutions on premium notebooks. If you want to market a new laptop as a premium product in needs to have a resolution that consumers will interpret as being a "premium" spec.

I agree with this. There are some laptops out there that I strongly consider buying just from looking at the specs just to find out later that it only comes with that 1366x768 resolution (it's a real deal breaker). They should definitely at least offer upgrade options for a better display.

[MSGaldenzi]

Finally a screen comes out that will end up making users magnify text. I have a hard enough time seeing some smaller print on an 1080 screen, can't wait to see how hard my eyes are going to have to work on even more pixels. Pretty exciting stuff though, the machine seems like a real winner.