Apple Updates MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Insane New 2880x1800 Notebook Display Discussion

[Sphinx]

Yeah I figured. That's unfortunate. It's gonna be a while before PCs start to adopt this crazy idea of putting higher res panels than 1366x768 in their laptops.

Its sad that they are using this useless resolution on "premium" 15in notebooks with some not having the choice to upgrade.

[kto]

With all the talk of "revolutionary" as always with Apple, I have to disagree. Apple sacrificed so that they could fit everything inside. If your MBP gets corrupted, you are heading back to Apple for a full replacement. Not an elegant solution for a computer aimed for business I think.

While I don't like it either, I think Apple is taking the first steps to where computers are heading anyway.

They number of people who need to upgrade RAM every year is shrinking very quickly because 4GB-8GB is enough for most people, including the majority of business users. And I don't see RAM needs increasing *for most people* in the next few years.

Modern batteries (isn't the MBP battery rated for 1000+ cycles?), will last the typical 3-4 year business hardware replacement period.

The SSD size and upgrade difficulty is an issue, albeit one that will be addressed in a year or two.

I don't know how many small businesses repair they own laptops, or even need to upgrade parts since entry or middle level stuff is quite adequate for many. I also know that some big companies hand off repair to manufacturers since that is cheaper than employing a tech to do it. A friend of mine works at huge tech multinational and they just take their MBPs to the local Apple store and are quite happy with that solution.

Apple's implementation may not work for all, but it will work for many. And I think that is Apple's plan. I don't think Apple really cares about the 5% that truly need a different solution.

[Mitlov]

This just drives home the fact that notebook PC makers need to stop using the pathetic 1366x768 resolutions on premium notebooks. If you want to market a new laptop as a premium product in needs to have a resolution that consumers will interpret as being a "premium" spec.

Yeah, in the age of the Retina MBP, no self-respecting laptop manufacturer would sell a premium $1200-$1500 notebook with a mere 1280x800 13" screen...

[Mitlov]

In my opinion this revolutionary thing to happen to happen to laptops since the macbook air. (Which shows how stagnent laptops have been for a while) Both of these have been from apple.

The only other company that seems to be trying is sony. None of the other manufacturers have really tried anything interesting recently, that I can think of, except maybe the dell adamo but that didn't go anywhere

People have wanted this since the Iphone 4 came out. What i'm wondering is, why didn't someone (like dell or hp) try to one up apple on this or something?

You don't think the second-generation Asus Zenbook with a dedicated GPU and a 1080p screen in a 13" ultrabook chassis is interesting? You don't think the incoming wave of convertible tablets (think Asus Transformer Prime running Windows 8) from Asus, Acer, Samsung, and Toshiba are interesting?

[sgogeta4]

Its sad that they are using this useless resolution on "premium" 15in notebooks with some not having the choice to upgrade.

While I don't agree that hd resolution is useless, I do agree that laptops should have the option of getting higher resolution panels.

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[Mitlov]

Its sad that they are using this useless resolution on "premium" 15in notebooks with some not having the choice to upgrade.

Which "premium" 15" notebooks don't have an upgrade option? I'm thinking about HP dv6 and Envy, Dell XPS, Sony S15, IdeaPad Y580, and all of them have at least the option for 1080p. There are some entry-level 15-inchers that only come with 1366x768 (laptops that cost half as much as the cheapest Apple and a third as much as the cheapest 15" Apple), but I can't think of any "premium" PC notebooks that don't offer an upgrade over 1366x768.

[Karamazovmm]

you do realize that the dv6 aint premium. aside that the y580 is the first of the y series to pack a FHD (also not regarded as premium), aside me being annoying you are correct, currently we are going for higher res displays, or for some gaining the lost ground.

[Mitlov]

you do realize that the dv6 aint premium. aside that the y580 is the first of the y series to pack a FHD (also not regarded as premium), aside me being annoying you are correct, currently we are going for higher res displays, or for some gaining the lost ground.

I was trying to be inclusive as possible with the "premium" label to show that you can get better than 720p in basically any 15" laptop besides true entry-level models. dv6 isn't like Envy, but it isn't like the G6 either, so I included it. I personally don't think the dv6 or the Y580 are premium in the way the XPS and Envy are premium.

And yes, it used to be different. But I'm talking about what's out there today, not what was out there three years ago.

[kto]

Yeah, in the age of the Retina MBP, no self-respecting laptop manufacturer would sell a premium $1200-$1500 notebook with a mere 1280x800 13" screen...

That same self-respecting laptop manufacturer also does not sell a $1799+ 15" laptop that requires a $100 upgrade to get a 1680x1050 screen.

I do agree that laptops should have the option of getting higher resolution panels.

What annoys me is that "premium" laptops (especially 15" and above) should have an HD+ (whatever that means) panel as the standard panel - no extra cost. Charge extra for the FHD, Retina, or those more specialized panels.

[J.R. Nelson]

I miss Dell's reasonably affordable RGBLED 1080p displays.