HP Pavilion dm1z Review Discussion

[blueblazer22x]

These look really nice if I didn't want more gaming power I'd pick one up now.

[IKAS V]

Nice video Shivansps!
I didn't even know you can lower the res that low on games, surprisingly they look pretty darn good too.
I'm with you in wondering if these new APU's can be OC'd, not sure if the traditional OC software would work these( AMD Clock Tools, MSI Afterburner) since the CPU and GPU are on the same die.
I'll give it a go when I get mine.

[Shivansps]

I got 3 videos check the first one

[Ahbeyvuhgehduh]

Very, very interesting ... nice to see AMD releasing a package that has good heat control, battery life, graphics ability and decent cpu power!

Huzzah for them!

[TommyB0y]

Its not though is it? have you read the review?

3dmark06 = ION2 victory by ~ 400 points?

http://www.notebookreview.com/defaul...ewsID=6018&p=3

then the reviewer decides to omit the actual gaming performance of Ion 2 vs Zacate GPU in the L4D game? i cant even fathom why you would do that in a comparative review...unless you have something to hide?

Jerry, no disrespect but you only provided a synthetic benchmark comparison, what else can i make a conclusion from if that is all you provide us with?!

I think what you mean is that HD6310 is better than HD3200 and HD4225 but there seems to be little compelling evidence that AMD Fusion is better than 2 hobbled together technologies (Atom DC and Ion 2)?

Like i said, AMD has only just, and i mean JUST caught up to 12 months of Ion technology?

Im not saying that the FUsion is a bad GPU, or that it cant do some gaming. But its not a paradigm shift for a netbook as we have had this level of performance for some time now.

it is a shame that you no longer have the 1215N to test it against with newer drivers.

What kind of troll are you? Compare Ion2 to AMDs comparable IGP, and the Ion2 barely distinguishes itself over the HD4200/50/70. In fact the HD4270 probably trounces on the Ion2 in real world performance. And let alone the fact that you can hybrid x-fire with a discrete card and increase performance. I dont know if many laptops offered that but it clearly topped the Ion2 and that was with AMD's older setup like I used to have, the HD3200 to an HD3470. Sure it didnt always scale well, but I always had low power IGP until I needed the HD3470 and then I got at least as good as the HD3470 and sometimes much better than the HD3470 alone.

synthetic benchmarks stink, and Nvidia and Intel have always focussed on how to make the numbers go higher, sometimes artificially. The reviewer explained the real world performance difference. AMD offers compelling value and performance.

I just ordered one, Thank You for the great review Jerry! I love that to come up with a con, it was that AMD decieved us and the battery life is only still better than a dual atom or macbook!

[Atom Ant]

and the dm3 gets worse battery life. Honestly between the two I don't see why anyone would not get the dm1z

Because dm1z is too small and the big screen frame is ugly on the bottom. I'll take Fusion in 13'' laptop.

I'm with you in wondering if these new APU's can be OC'd, not sure if the traditional OC software would work these( AMD Clock Tools, MSI Afterburner) since the CPU and GPU are on the same die.
I'll give it a go when I get mine.

Do not forget to share your experinces with me!

[ballist1x]

What kind of troll are you? Compare Ion2 to AMDs comparable IGP, and the Ion2 barely distinguishes itself over the HD4200/50/70. In fact the HD4270 probably trounces on the Ion2 in real world performance. And let alone the fact that you can hybrid x-fire with a discrete card and increase performance. I dont know if many laptops offered that but it clearly topped the Ion2 and that was with AMD's older setup like I used to have, the HD3200 to an HD3470. Sure it didnt always scale well, but I always had low power IGP until I needed the HD3470 and then I got at least as good as the HD3470 and sometimes much better than the HD3470 alone.

synthetic benchmarks stink, and Nvidia and Intel have always focussed on how to make the numbers go higher, sometimes artificially. The reviewer explained the real world performance difference. AMD offers compelling value and performance.

I just ordered one, Thank You for the great review Jerry! I love that to come up with a con, it was that AMD decieved us and the battery life is only still better than a dual atom or macbook!

wow steady on there. Ion 2 is barely comparable to 4200? Which side of bed did you get out of? the trap door side?

What laptops/netbooks had a 4270? Which 12.1" netbooks specifically had this feature? Hybrid xfire?! you'd be lucky to get flash HD support working on an Ati netbook let alone crossfire the bludger!

You do know we are talking about netbook performance here right? Not a gaming laptop AMD vs Nvidia debate?

And as for Synthetic benchmarks stink? well thats the only comparable benchmark used in the review in terms of GPU performance so, maybe take that issue up with the reviewer, NOT the analyser of the review perhaps?

[HI DesertNM]

You do know we are talking about netbook performance here right?

IMO, its pointless to try to compare the new AMD E-350 AMD Radeon HD 6310. This APU has formed a new niche for itself. Its a balance of performance and endurance. It does not share the endurance of the atom (although its approaching that level) and it does not share the performance of higher end ultraportables. What AMD did, was strike what I believe a perfect balance for the average user. It shares very little with the average netbook with its numerous limitations of performance and resolution. The only competition that this level of processor has at this time, is itself (Sorry Intel). For anyone interested in this type of performance/price category its not a question of choosing the Fusion, but rather which manufacturer, eg, Lenovo 120e, or Sony, or DM1 etc..

[TommyB0y]

wow steady on there. Ion 2 is barely comparable to 4200? Which side of bed did you get out of? the trap door side?

What laptops/netbooks had a 4270? Which 12.1" netbooks specifically had this feature? Hybrid xfire?! you'd be lucky to get flash HD support working on an Ati netbook let alone crossfire the bludger!

You do know we are talking about netbook performance here right? Not a gaming laptop AMD vs Nvidia debate?

And as for Synthetic benchmarks stink? well thats the only comparable benchmark used in the review in terms of GPU performance so, maybe take that issue up with the reviewer, NOT the analyser of the review perhaps?

You cannot deny being a troll here, youre just professing your love for Nvidia. I would not consider you an analyser, just biased. You want to compare Nvidias discrete Ion2 w/ 512mb dedicated RAM to AMDs discretes or IGPs? And you show me where the Ion2 does much more than the HD4250, for synthtic comparison notebookcheck has it as 5% better, big deal, and has the Fusion 6310 just over the Ion2. Most of the "netbook" reviews for the DM1z suffer from always using the single core cpu when you can clearly get better. And now its not offered in single core. I had a HD3200 with dedicated sideport RAM hybrid xfire to HD3470 so I know it works and I got great performance on stressing games that wouldnt play on either one alone well. You cannot put it on AMD how OEMs build their laptops, AMD offers the capability and OEMs decide how to build them. AMD is often not fully utilized with lesser speed or quantity RAM, lesser cpu's chosen, sideport not utilized, ect..

[Sphinx]

Well I have to say Im VERY VERY glad this came to fruition. The first gen of these chips is a little lower then what I expected performance wise (making my choice of my m11x easier on my mind), but still a dynamo none the less. If I had missed the m11x deal I probably would have this instead, although the chicklet style keyboard is a HUGE turn off. Either way glad to see this segment pan out. Cant wait to see what else comes along in the coming months.