AMD Llano Notebook Platform Coming 2011: Quad-Core, DirectX 11 Discussion

[Charles P. Jefferies]

The AMD Llano processor will feature four cores, an onboard graphics card, and be built on 32nm technology.

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[Althernai]

From the AnandTech article (which you might as well have linked directly):

Each core is Phenom II derived, but there’s no shared L3 cache. So Llano cores look a lot like Athlon II cores. I’m hearing that they may have some architectural tweaks, so performance could be better than present-day Athlon IIs.

In other words, don't expect these to challenge their Intel contemporaries on performance. Desktop Nehalem and Westmere currently annihilate Athlon IIs (which are about 20% inferior to Phenom IIs which also lose to both Nehalem and Westmere in performance) and no architectural tweaks are going to make them come close to Sandy Bridge (which is what Intel will have in 2011). It's too bad AMD didn't gamble and just go straight for 32nm Bulldozer. On the bright side, at least this will keep Intel from charging too high a premium.

[anothergeek]

From the AnandTech article (which you might as well have linked directly):



In other words, don't expect these to challenge their Intel contemporaries on performance. Desktop Nehalem and Westmere currently annihilate Athlon IIs (which are about 20% inferior to Phenom IIs which also lose to both Nehalem and Westmere in performance) and no architectural tweaks are going to make them come close to Sandy Bridge (which is what Intel will have in 2011). It's too bad AMD didn't gamble and just go straight for 32nm Bulldozer. On the bright side, at least this will keep Intel from charging too high a premium.

Clock for clock comparisons are one thing, dollar for dollar comparisons are another. For example, a BE 955 can be had for $150, has unlocked multipliers, and trades blows with the more expensive i5 750.

I'm excited to hear AMD is on target for 32nm Quad Cores in notebooks by 2011. AMD chipsets always come with decent integrated solutions that squash Intel's integrated junk. Paired with in-house, high-performance dedicated graphics, and you're set!

[Althernai]

Clock for clock comparisons are one thing, dollar for dollar comparisons are another.

Right. This is why I said it will keep Intel from charging too high a premium.

For example, a BE 955 can be had for $150, has unlocked multipliers, and trades blows with the more expensive i5 750.

It's strange that they're still selling the 955 for so much. I bought the i5 750 for $155 last December and I think it's slightly better (definitely a lot more power efficient).

AMD chipsets always come with decent integrated solutions that squash Intel's integrated junk.

The IGP will no longer be on the chipset in Llano -- it will be on the CPU die (just like Intel will do with Sandy Bridge). But yes, I would be very surprised if it was not significantly better than Intel's contemporary model.

[Phinagle]

Sandy Bridge could be getting up to 2 GPUs integrated into the die.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17576/34/


Fud compares it to the equivalent of ATI and Nvidia doubling stream processors or CUDA cores.

[invisible]

Clock for clock comparisons are one thing, dollar for dollar comparisons are another. For example, a BE 955 can be had for $150, has unlocked multipliers, and trades blows with the more expensive i5 750.

I'm excited to hear AMD is on target for 32nm Quad Cores in notebooks by 2011. AMD chipsets always come with decent integrated solutions that squash Intel's integrated junk. Paired with in-house, high-performance dedicated graphics, and you're set!

Intel's 'dale graphics are not junk.

[LycanNyc]

What about on the mobile side?

[Serg]

Ivy Bridge?

It's their monolithic chip...what AMD Fusion is.

Some interesting stuff from the AMD blog...http://blogs.amd.com/unprocessed/tag/llano/

EDIT to add: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...rocessors.html Llano is Fusion

[Jayayess1190]

Ivy Bridge?

It's their monolithic chip...what AMD Fusion is.

Some interesting stuff from the AMD blog...http://blogs.amd.com/unprocessed/tag/llano/

EDIT to add: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...rocessors.html Llano is Fusion

Sandy Bridge is monolithic, Ivy bridge is just the shrink of SB to 22nm.

[Serg]

Thanks for the correction, it is hard to keep up with Intel's naming scheme...^_^