Windows Vista: The Best Case for Windows XP Ever

[Paul]

A few last words, and this is my forseeable end since I have no intesrest in creating a huge thread of us arguing on this matter; that's not in the nature of this forum and I have mistakenly fallen into it.

But first off, you're right Joelist, most of this is all just opinion and experiences. But you trying to immediately attack the author by saying (and I quote), "This "article" just caused my formerly high opinion of notebookreviews go crash down quite a bit. In all honesty, it's not an editorial it's an ABM rant that has no place masquerading as an objective review." and then going on to say later "As has already been mentioned by more than one poster, the "article" is little more than an anti-Vista rant, and a lot of what it asserts does not line up with real world experience." I find it a bit hypocritical for you to make these assertions against the author who was not only expressing opinions and discontent but also his real-world experiences and then turn around and say that we are wrong for questioning your experiences and opinions.

Secondly, you can argue that Vista has been rewritten all you want and blame incompatibilities on these, but that just doesn't hold salt with me. Windows 2000 and Windows XP both ushered in a brand new architecture and switched over to Windows NT for the first time rather than a Windows shell over DOS. And despite this, they were still able to keep many games and programs running through compatibility mode, but the ones that weren't were completely understandable as the code base was a HUGE change. Vista may be a different design with many new changes, but at its heart, it is still Windows NT. There is no reason people should not be able to run the amounts of games and programs that won't run. And you can find a list of incompatible programs here. To name a few: DivX converter, WinISO, Symantec Partition Magic 8, AVG Internet suite, ZoneLabs ZoneAlarm, Corel Paint Shop Pro 9 and 10, Microsoft PictureIt! 2001 and 2002, Adobe Encore DVD 2.0, Adobe Premiere 7.0, and this is not even including games, which can currently be excused because of bad drivers. There are also over a hundred more programs there reported to have problems, including Adobe Photoshop (many versions). If you guys aren't having problems, that's great. But some people are, and that's all we're saying.

But as hard as anyone tries, most people will never change their opinions, so this pointless arguing is going nowhere. Vista is out, and it's not going to go back. Those against are trying to educate people on the problems, those that are for it are continuing to praise it; whatever, many people will be forced to use it one way or another.

[Joelist]

No, what I was opposed to was the author stating opinions as facts.

Also, I never attributed program incompatibility to the redesign. I noted the redesign to counter claims that Vista lacks new architectural features. The incompatible programs are a different issue, and the list is not as bad as you represent it to be.

Either way, you are right in that this is going nowhere.

[odin243]

No, what I was opposed to was the author stating opinions as facts.

The author was writing an editorial. Perhaps you don't know what this means?

1. an article in a newspaper or other periodical presenting the opinion of the publisher, editor, or editors.
2. a statement broadcast on radio or television that presents the opinion of the owner, manager, or the like, of the station or channel.

The author clearly stated

In this editorial Dustin shares his Windows Vista upgrade experience and why he's running with open arms back to Windows XP.

in the first lines of his editorial. The OP never claimed that his experiences would be accurate for 100% of users. How in the world can you be against a consumer writing about his thoughts and opinions on a product, especially when they are stated to be opinions (and not facts) from the outset?

[nxman]

Pulp i did the same after 48 hours with Vista Ultimate i ran back to XP