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    Default MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 GPU Upgrade - AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    So yeah I bought the card from Quadzilla in NBR marketplace and it works nicely.

    Booted into windows, installed the catalyst 11.10 preview 2 BC3 - RAGE beta.

    Below is a few pics of the 2 cards, heatsink and a screenshot after I installed the driver and reboot.

    The stock heatsink in its default place, notice the warranty sticker is kinda of no consequence, you can just put it out and stick to anywhere you want and then put back in later, and it seems that the original sticker was already tampered with.


    GTX 570M just pulled out the heatsink, in its original slot:


    The heatsink pulled out completely:


    The backside, notice the 2 RAM chip space not covered with thermal pad and the themal pad right above it is slightly not in the correct position for the 6990M (that small thingy I dont know how to call it :P)


    Backside fullview:


    Behold the GTX 570M! (is there any screenshot of it on the internet yet?)


    Backside:


    AMD Radeon HD 6990M!


    Backside:


    GTX 570M vs HD 6990M side by side:


    Backside:


    I have to pry out the back faceplate thingy off the 6990M with a knife while being very gentle with the card ( though not with myself as I cut my thumb finger ) for it to fit in the slot.
    I was going to leave it as it and brute force it into place but the cost of it reminded me to be careful and leave no mistake. Thank god I didnt do that.

    About the missing thermal pad on 2 RAM chips, for now I temporarily put thermal paste in them, not sure if thats a good idea. Thought?
    And the slightlt out of place grey/brown thingy. Should I do anything about it? I just put the thermal pad on it then the heatsink so it would half contact with the heatsink (i think).

    The system boot up nicely, windows show up standard VGA as expected and I installed the catalyst driver right away.
    First reboot it show 48*C idle at first then continue to stay at 52-53*C at 90V. Thats not very good so what should I do? GPU observer no longer have the memory load option and funny that the fanspeed now always show at 30%.
    Just run Crysis 2 for 10-15 and it stay at 85-86*C and Im hesistant at playing any longer for fear the card may get damaged.

    The first triumphant pic I posted in other topic:



    Another pic of Hwinfo and 3dmark vantage result. Hwinfo run while I was typing this and after benchmark. As you can see the temparature is a bit too high, and the score is not that great, what can i do? (just uninstalled the rest of nvidia drivers but havent reboot yet)



    AMD Radeon HD 6970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2860QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F2 score: P11580 3DMarks

    So yeah my concern is about that miscontacted grey/brown transistor or something.

    The missing thermal pad on the 2 RAM chips.

    Overall temps.

    Any optimization tips? since this is literally my first time using an AMD/ATI card.

    Most effective pasting method? Pea, tube, etc,...

    Last but not least the way I repaste CPU/GPU is with the material remover surface purifier then apply the paste, is that correct?

    And currently I have the Artic Silver 5 and GELID GC-Extreme (which im using)

    Newegg.com - GELID Solutions GC-Extreme Thermal Compound

    is it any good? Should I keep it or switch back to AS5 or another brand?

    Can you recommend any specific thermal pad for me to purchase?

    Thanks for reading guys and if possible a little rep for the effort wouldnt hurt :P
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    Default Re: MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    okay rebooted and run 3dmark vantage again and its still at 118xx. lurking around and most are around 14xxx. What should I do :-s

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    Default Re: MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    On the M15x and M17xR2s those guys never have any thermal pads except for the RAM and when i had the M15x with a 6990 i tried to pad the card as close to my R3 as possible but the heatsink was not designed with that in mind so really im not sure it helps or hurts.

    Its been an on going debate between me and a friend about what those backend pads are actually doing for the temps/card etc .

    Are they keeping the heat away from heatsink since they are so thick ?.

    Are they transferring heat to the heatsink and ultimately getting cooled be it very little since the pads are so thick ?.

    Since there are quite a few people running 6990s out there with 0 thermal pads except on the RAM i cannot truly tell you whether long term of having no pads or having them is going to help/hurt the card

    For the moment i would not worry to much about that stuff and mainly just focus on getting your temps down on the things you can monitor via Hwinfo.

    As for paste on the memory that is fine and i have used paste plenty of times on VRAM but i always use a silicon based paste like Arctic Alumina not Arctic silver. MX-4 or OCZ freeze would be fine on the RAM but i am not sure id want to put say IC diamond on the Vram cause that is stuff is messy as heck..


    Most people on the Alienware forums are using these thermal Pads fujipoly 0.5 mm . Some people buy the 1mm ones but most have found the best temps from the 0.5s

    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...tl=g8c487s1288

    Right now i am using the stock ones myself and my temps are great.
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    Default Re: MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    Quote Originally Posted by dragon290513 View Post
    okay rebooted and run 3dmark vantage again and its still at 118xx. lurking around and most are around 14xxx. What should I do :-s
    Did you completely wipe the Nvidia drivers before installing the AMD card ?.

    My stock score on the 6990m with the RAGE driver is around 13,400 on the GPU portion.

    You may want to run Driver sweeper and make sure all remnants of the Nvidia drivers have been wiped clean and go from there.

    Also what does Does GPU Z say ? is the card running in 16x PCIexpress 2.0 . Highlight that area with your mouse and see what the window says that pops up with the cursor hovering over it .

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    Default Re: MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    I think im gonna pull it out and repaste with AS5 and put back some thermal pad that still got stuck on the GTX 570M I just noticed.

    umm not really in a rush I just installed the catalyst driver right away and choose custom to skip some components, can that be problem? Only after the system rebooted that I uninstall nvidia related stuff. Then After benchmarking that I rebooted again.

    Will try driver sweeper but theres no link on guru3d :-ss. Should I uninstall them all nvidia + amd, sweeper clean than proceed with catalyst again?

    I hovered over that area and it said: "It is currently running at PCI-Express x16 v2.0."

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    Default Re: MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    Skipping stuff like Hydravison and a couple of those other things wont have any effect so dont worry about that.

    Yeah you need to do some cleaning though of the old drivers and worst case scenario if you are still not happy with the performance back up your current OS with something like Acronis and start a fresh OS install and go from there.

    This download should work for Driver Sweeper.

    Phyxion.net - Driver Sweeper

    When installing it uncheck that crap 3rd party thing it asks you to install its some search bar or something so pay attention when installing it

    A fresh install of the OS though will be the easiest way to trouble shoot vs spending hours trying other things but if your PC is loaded down with all kinds of apps that you will have to reinstall and download
    then you may not be in the mood to do all that . Thats also why i suggest backing up the current OS so if you do a fresh install and find you have the same exact performance then you can just roll right back to your old OS.

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    Default Re: MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    hmm I repasted both the CPU and GPU with the AS5 and the CPU temp seems to decrease a bit while the GPU is now 60-61*C. I did line method on the CPU and pea on GPU.

    Very tempted to do a fresh windows install since driver sweeper doesnt help and I cannot load catalyst control center up. But have to deal with the temp first. Time to pull it out again.

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    Default Re: MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    You dont need much paste at all on the GPU and you may want to try the other paste you have as well.

    The last time you pasted if it made good contact and spread all the way across the core use less this time. It usually takes me a few times minimum before i am happy so you may have to as well.

    As for Catalyst Control Center not opening hmm yeah try the fresh install for sure because i dont know what all you have on your machine.

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    Default Re: MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    I'm not sure what the temps are typical for that, but aren't the 6990m and 580m supposed to be hotter than the 570m in general? Hmm, not sure why the stock scores are lower, but I'll do some looking around. I think this is the first picture of the 570m. It looks like it has the same setup as the 580m (with a wider surface area on the core), and less 2 VRAM chips. I'm starting to think that the 580m WOULD work as a plug n play! Shouldn't even have to switch drivers too. Great job on the upgrade process so far dragon, and thanks for the pictures!
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    Default Re: MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 AMD RADEON HD 6990M Succeed!

    Quote Originally Posted by xault View Post
    I'm starting to think that the 580m WOULD work as a plug n play! Shouldn't even have to switch drivers too. Great job on the upgrade process so far dragon, and thanks for the pictures!
    Yep me too but still too expensive
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