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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ibmthink View Post
    Thats not so easy. They would have to redesign the complete chassis to offer this upgrade option.
    I'm not sure about that. Lenovo 15" laptops have a huge bezel, and a 15" 16:10 panel would probably fit there.

    Perhaps the camera must go. But somehow it's possible now to offer X200 series with a choice 3x3 WiFi antenna no camera, and 2x2 with camera. Far more subtle and less useful option tbh.

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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    I'm not sure about that. Lenovo 15" laptops have a huge bezel, and a 15" 16:10 panel would probably fit there.
    No, they are not huge enough.

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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ibmthink View Post
    Putting a 16:10 display in ThinkPads as an option would require a complete redesign of the chassis.
    I don't think so. Maybe it is necessary for the L420/L520 due to the Speakers, but those HUUGE Bezels on the top and bottom of the X220/T420 etc. provide more than enough space for a 16:10 Display. But that Dream has died, fallen into crumbs and been buried forever anyway.

    I advise anyone who can't bare 16:9 to get an X200/201 or T410 while they are still available in masses. Better get a huge stock of parts too.

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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    They are only huge enough on the 14" T, nowhere else. There is some stuff under these bezels.

    And if you would put a 16:10 Display in the existing chassis, you would get HUUGE bezels on the right and on the left, which would look just weird.

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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    I guess it doesn't matter anyway. It is extremely unlikely that we'll ever see 16:10 in a ThinkPad again, so if you aren't satisfied with 16:9 I can only repeat myself: Get an X200 or T410!

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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    Quote Originally Posted by fraushai View Post
    What I want is that they retain the original thinkpad in a separate line meant for enthusiasts - that's where the RMBP stands. And don't forget that Apple is making more money year by year as well...
    RMBP is meant for enthusiasts of Apple design and technology in 15.4" form factor precisely. It's a nice laptop, the ultimate device to run OS X (especially as Apple decided to let their 17" and Mac Pros to die), but everything else in there is achieved by other notebooks, from Asus to Sony, just not as well marketed.

    W/T5xx are still very decent laptops for business purposes. Because of the dock and multiple monitor support and connectivity and all the other features. Yes, they've cut an inch from height, and added it to the width compared to T60, and keyboard layout changes are undesirable for many, but otherwise not much is different. Just much more powerful and lives on battery longer. More pixels, compared to 1440x1050 too.

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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    Quote Originally Posted by 600X View Post
    so if you aren't satisfied with 16:9 I can only repeat myself: Get an X200 or T410!
    Great advice. Hanging on to my X201 and T410.

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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaso View Post
    Please, it's not about paying more or paying less. I just wanted to point out a myth that has become a party line that the enthusiasts keep parroting.

    Why don't they come out and say, "Look, we procure the cheapest parts so you guys can pay less for your ThinkPad"? That will save you from having to invent some excuse on their behalf.
    Kaso, I cannot agree any more. I always hope that people be truthful and clear when addressing their customers and tell them how they do business. This way, they will be able to avoid unhappy customers and just live in peace with fanboys or those who just do not care with anything in the world (I know many of them). But unfortunately, Lenovo does not care because people are buying and do not care....

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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaso View Post
    What are you talking about? Complete chassis redesign? The T/W510/520 configs have been offering the FHD 1920x1080 upgrade for $250. And orders have been placed.

    Enough drama already.
    uh, chassis design to accomodate 16:10 instead of 16:9

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    Default Re: MacBook Pro 2012 - a better Thinkpad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaso View Post
    Why don't they come out and say, "Look, we procure the cheapest parts so you guys can pay less for your ThinkPad"? That will save you from having to invent some excuse on their behalf.
    Why not just read what an employee of Lenovo itself wrote about the shift to 16:9?

    Display Ratio Change (again) - Perspectives - Lenovo Blogs

    Either way, it's kinda a moot point. Unless things change dramatically, I don't think we're gonna see the return of 4:3 or 16:10... whatever the reason.

 

 

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