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16th May 2012, 04:15 PM #141
5400 vs 5200 vs 4200 nvidia spec sheet comparison
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvs_techspecs.html
Apologies, didnt realise it got posted already
lenovo ThinkPad X220
Core i5 | 8GB | 256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD | IPS | Win 8 Pro x64
eGPU: PE4L V2.1b | GTX 660 Ti | Xbox 360 175W PSU Mod
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16th May 2012, 04:38 PM #142Notebook Evangelist
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Re: ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official
GTX 660M
384 CUDA Cores
835 MHzGraphics Clock (MHz)
30.4Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec)
Memory Specs:
2000Memory Clock
GDDR5Memory Interface
128bitMemory Interface Width
64.0
NVS 5400M
96 CUDA Cores
Graphic Clock Up to 660
Processor Clock Up to 1329
Memory Amount Up to 2 GB
Memory Interface 128 bit
Well...no comparison. Looks like gaming is still out of the question for the next T series line. I am not too surprise though.Thinkpad T500// T9900, 8gb (4x4)DDR3 1066, Momentus XT 500hybrid, HD3650 256MB, 16:10 1680x1050 CCFL
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16th May 2012, 05:08 PM #143Newbie
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Re: ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official
The NVS 5400M is basically on-par with the nVidia Fermi GT 630M as far as overall performance goes. It is definitely better than the previous NVS 4200, but not many orders of magnitude more powerful -- a little under twice as fast at some tasks, basically a direct modern replacement for what the T420 had. Enough to run a game like Battlefield 3 on Low @ native resolution at around 40 FPS.
3DMark 11 Compare:
NVS 4200 (T420): ~518
GT 630M (Equiv. to T430): ~942
Intel HD 4000 (New Intel Integrated): ~620
So much better than the T420, but still far away from something like the GT 650M (in the new Alienware M14X and rumored Macbook Pros) that scores 2078 on 3DMark 11.Last edited by danielsjt; 16th May 2012 at 07:19 PM. Reason: 630M is not a Kepler part, is a Fermi part, adjusted first line.
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16th May 2012, 05:17 PM #144
Re: ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official
there is no kepler 630m, the kepler line starts at the 640m and only in some models.
the 640m/650m/660m are the same card, with performance increase due to the choice of DDR3 or GDDR5 and the speed of the clocks.
It makes no sense for nvidia to release a low end quadro card with kepler, fermi was much more heavy on gpgpu, kepler is a fail in that area.
Sincerely the T and probably W line are faded to have a new keyboard and a new cpu, with the needed chipset to boot.
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16th May 2012, 07:18 PM #145Newbie
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Re: ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official
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16th May 2012, 07:46 PM #146
Re: ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official
they should be, nvidia just renamed the chips to quadro and launched a driver with more features in line for what pro needs.
no need to be sorry though.
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16th May 2012, 09:12 PM #147Notebook Geek
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Regarding the possibility of being stuck with fermi based Quadros for the w530s.
Wasn't there meant to be a 28nm fermi based 600 series gpu? Hopefully they base the newer Quadros on such a part and we get the best of both worlds... i.e. Gpgpu and efficiency.
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16th May 2012, 09:18 PM #148Notebook Consultant
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Re: ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official
Some more information available on anandtech
AnandTech - Lenovo Announces Their 3rd Generation Intel Core Laptop Updates
The X1 carbon indeed appears to have a keyboard with a slightly different layout in the function buttons. I wonder where they get the extra room.
They made the L series resemble the T series a bit more, at least for the computing surface. But the L430 is unreasonably large; look at that bezel!
Anandtech says the T430s gets the 5400m with 128 bit memory, so not the 5200m which is positive.
Quadro K1000 and K2000 for the W530 means kepler?
ugh that keyboard layout is very disappointingThinkpad T400 with P8600, WXGA+ CCFL, HD3470 switchable, 8 GB, 240 GB, and Windows 7 64
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16th May 2012, 09:22 PM #149Banned
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Re: ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official
Wish Lenovo made their Thinkpads come with a standard expresscard slot (x1 2.0) that could double up as a Thunderbolt port. Ie: insert a card with a Thunderbolt controller that gives a Thunderbolt port. To do that would require them to route the x4 3.0 north bridge pins there and somehow provide an insert to plug into those pins. Could be tricky but Lenovo could surely sort something out.
Such modularity would mean third parties could make a custom x4 3.0 connector and an eGPU enclosure to tap such an interface. That way could bypass Thunderbolt altogether if MSI/Intel/Apple want to delay it indefinitely to safeguard desktop/gaming notebook sales.
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16th May 2012, 09:32 PM #150
Re: ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official
The new L-Series is much better than last year series:
- HD+ Display for the L430 too
- Classic ThinkPad 180° Opening Hinges
- nVidia Optimus Option
- Backlight Option (it hadn´t ThinkLight before)
- Thinner and lighter
- Same Keyboards as T-Series
etc.
They will also retain the 54mm Expresscard-Slot.



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