The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?

[ibmthink]

No Trackpoint, no Classic 7-row keyboard, XGA (really?), the price (?, a bit expensive). That is no alternative for a ThinkPad. It´s not a Businessnotebook, its a rugged Notebook, something completely different.

[ThinkRob]

the current ThinkPads (X220 for example) have really fallen in Keyboard Quality. The X2207T420 etc. is nothing compared to the old 600X.

I have a T420 and a 600X.

I prefer the T420. It's got a more even key feel, stiffer backplate on the right hand side of the keyboard, and a slightly shorter throw (which I prefer.)

Keyboard feel is highly subjective. You can't state in absolute terms that "ThinkPads have fallen in terms of keyboard quality" any more than I can state that the T420 has "the best keyboard of all time." Both are borderline-nonsense blanket statements.

Currently there's this thing going on that's called "Consumerization". Not only Lenovo is "consumerizing" their Products, HP now also offers a 11,6" Business Subnotebook, thereby moving away from the traditonal 12". Even Apple will dump their Pro line and focus more towards the Air, IPad and IPhone.

Currently? I'd say that trend started about 6 months after the release of the 5150.

[Bronsky]

Keyboard feel is highly subjective.

I have to agree with you there. Prior to purchasing my Acer 3820TG, all I had ever heard was that Acer Island keyboards suck. I have used it for the past 2 years, 8 hours dayfor a job that is largely writing and I love it. The large flat island keys allow my to fly along, expressing my thoughts as fas as I can form them with narry a mistake. Subjective? Without a doubt.

[MaX PL]

so when are these things being released? i dont think i've heard a date yet...

[XX55XX]

so when are these things being released? i dont think i've heard a date yet...

First week of June were what the rumors said. As for me, I won't have any use for a laptop until August, so I'll place my order in late July once I have sufficient funds.

[Andrew Baxter]

so when are these things being released? i dont think i've heard a date yet...

I recommend everyone pay attention to various tech websites at midnight EST tonight for further information on all of this

[Tsunade_Hime]

I have a T420 and a 600X.

I prefer the T420. It's got a more even key feel, stiffer backplate on the right hand side of the keyboard, and a slightly shorter throw (which I prefer.)

Keyboard feel is highly subjective. You can't state in absolute terms that "ThinkPads have fallen in terms of keyboard quality" any more than I can state that the T420 has "the best keyboard of all time." Both are borderline-nonsense blanket statements.

Currently? I'd say that trend started about 6 months after the release of the 5150.

This statement is true, though I feel ThinkPad keyboards are getting worse. The new generation ThinkPads keyboards are not as good as the _60/61 series ThinkPad keyboards. And yes I have an X220T, I've also used the T420, T520, W520 and vanilla X220. It's a partial reason why I'm selling my X220T. Also the palmrest material changed, it feels worse.

[Jayayess1190]

I recommend everyone pay attention to various tech websites at midnight EST tonight for further information on all of this

Nice.

[ALLurGroceries]

So early June it is... yet we still don't know any details about which CPUs are going to be in the X230.

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