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1st May 2012, 11:39 PM #531
Re: The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?
Dell's business offer looks pretty crappy at the moment. I meant I don't see the point in getting a Dell XPS when there's a quite nice selection of Thinkpads available. In terms of the appearance, pretty much ANY Dell laptop (except Alienware and Precision) looks like a cheap garbage these days. XPS still seems like a poor choice for a business laptop. (Actually, it seems like a poor choice for ANY purpose laptop, especially business purpose.)
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1st May 2012, 11:53 PM #532Notebook Enthusiast
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2nd May 2012, 04:04 AM #533Notebook Guru
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Re: The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?
Just wanted to check if I am right in thinking the 17" thinkpad line has been dead since the W701?
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2nd May 2012, 05:03 AM #534
Re: The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?
Yes W701 was the last 17" ThinkPad, the roadmap for 17" mobile workstation ThinkPad was gone since last generation.

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2nd May 2012, 05:17 AM #535Notebook Consultant
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Re: The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?
With modern power management on CPUs, the use of ULV simply indicates that they neutered the CPU because they weren't able to fit appropriate cooling. A "full voltage" CPU will idle at the same level.
While 0.5" or however thick those ultrabooks are is nice, I think a lot of people would be willing to trade "sexiness" for more power. When I bought my X220 I thought I'd be seeing more of them around campus but I've only seen 1 other X series ever, everyone else lugs around 15"+ laptops, and not because they couldn't afford a smaller one. My roommate has an 18" Toshiba Qosmio :O The full power of this processor is quite good for now, runs games without a hiccup with my external GTX460, I imagine it'll serve me well for a long time.
It makes sense that you don't see Vaio Zs around despite having high resolution and portability, because they're just too expensive. However, a 1600x900 screen upgrade for the X220 would give the whole package a sane price and much, much more utility.
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2nd May 2012, 06:21 AM #536Notebook Consultant
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Re: The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?
I hope they give W530 a numerical keypad. There is a lot of real estate not used on W520 that could have been used for the numerical keypad. It really looks ridiculous with that much space left and a small laptop keyboard in the middle.
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2nd May 2012, 06:28 AM #537Notebook Enthusiast
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Re: The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?
Numpads on laptops are difficult... the off-center placement of the touchpad would annoy many people (including me). Making it optional would require two different palmrests...
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2nd May 2012, 08:32 AM #538
Re: The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?
Pretty big if. It assumes that most corporate buyers will trade in performance, future proofing, serviceability, battery life, and ergonomics in favor of thinness and sexiness. That just doesn't sound like a realistic scenario.I wouldnt bet on that, if ultrabooks are going to be all the rage with IB refresh, then sticking to "weve done it like this for years and we will continue so" tradition/attitude might bring lost sales to them, to any company with such attitude if competition wont sleep.
I think that next gen Latitudes will be very much like current Latitudes, but with an ultrabook or two thrown in. Sorta like next gen Thinkpads. We still have the traditional X230, etc, but will also have the T430u ultrabook. Earlier slides also indicate a 13 inch model (X2?).
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2nd May 2012, 08:36 AM #539
Re: The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?
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2nd May 2012, 10:36 AM #540Notebook Evangelist
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Re: The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?
You know what would be really nice?
A T430s with an AMD Trinity APU. Pity Lenovo is an Intel shop, though.



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