The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?

[bemymonkey]

1600x900 in 12.5" is about the same DPI as 1920x1200 in 15.4", which a number of people are fine with.

And even higher DPI (1080p @ 12.5") is just fine if you have decent eyesight... move two inches closer and you're back to the same perceived DPI you had before

[XX55XX]

Curious article on Tom's Hardware: Dell Says it Can't Build Enough XPS 13 Ultrabooks



So much for X220 being the best ultra-portable, it's thin enough, corporate customers are conservative, crappy screen resolution is OK for corporates, we took a quarter to repaint the Enter key and that's the way we always do it, and other Lenovo's nonsense.

Unless Lenovo gets the message real soon, ThinkPads will have Blackberry written all over them. Just 5 years ago RIM sounded exactly like Lenovo today and then poof and their corporate customers are all infested with iPhones.

Those who never learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 2 years from now, I can see the image of Nick Farrells running around their offices, screaming how no one could have possibly seen this coming.

Your point being? Unfortunately, ultrabooks are not something that everyone quite craves. I do like notebooks that have 2.5-inch hard drive bays, mSATA slots, removable batteries, ability to add 16GB of RAM, etc. Ultrabooks are rather limiting in that regard.

[unreal25]

Curious article on Tom's Hardware: Dell Says it Can't Build Enough XPS 13 Ultrabooks



So much for X220 being the best ultra-portable, it's thin enough, corporate customers are conservative, crappy screen resolution is OK for corporates, we took a quarter to repaint the Enter key and that's the way we always do it, and other Lenovo's nonsense.

Unless Lenovo gets the message real soon, ThinkPads will have Blackberry written all over them. Just 5 years ago RIM sounded exactly like Lenovo today and then poof and their corporate customers are all infested with iPhones.

Those who never learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 2 years from now, I can see the image of Nick Farrells running around their offices, screaming how no one could have possibly seen this coming.

Interesting. But I cannot fathom why in the world would one replace a business class laptop with a consumer class and moreover especially Dell XPS (much inferior build quality, reliability, plenty of overheating problems, etc.). If the main selling point is the thickness, there will be a Thinkpad T430u.

[Thors.Hammer]

Interesting. But I cannot fathom why in the world would one replace a business class laptop with a consumer class and moreover especially Dell XPS (much inferior build quality, reliability, plenty of overheating problems, etc.). If the main selling point is the thickness, there will be a Thinkpad T430u.

Probably because everyone is tired of dragging around thick Latitudes over the past few years. The new Latitudes are thinner and lighter but the XPS 13 Ultrabook is much sexier.

I would not be surprised to see a thin Latitude Ultrabook with Ivy Bridge inside this year.

[Kaso]

... the XPS 13 Ultrabook is much sexier. I would not be surprised to see a thin Latitude Ultrabook with Ivy Bridge inside this year.

Quite possible:

sister and brother products to the XPS 13 are on the horizon.

And a Dell guy mentioned June-ish timeframe.

[Pseudorandom]

Lenovo is releasing at least 1 Thinkpad ultrabook, and they can also put some more business-ish features on their consumer ultrabooks. It's not like they don't care about ultrabooks, they just aren't radically changing of their best selling lines.

I don't think ultrabooks are going to replace ultraportables in the business world. Lenovo/IBM, Dell, and HP all used to have ULV CPU's in their 12 inch business ultraportables. They don't anymore. It shows that corporate users of 12 inch business ultraportables either need more power than ULV CPU's can provide, or IT wants more future proofing than ULV CPU's can provide.

Also, I doubt the Latitudes will be thinner this time around. There will probably be a Latitude ultrabook, but Latitude design refreshes are about every 2 years and they just had one.

[Thors.Hammer]

Lenovo is releasing at least 1 Thinkpad ultrabook, and they can also put some more business-ish features on their consumer ultrabooks. It's not like they don't care about ultrabooks, they just aren't radically changing of their best selling lines.

I don't think ultrabooks are going to replace ultraportables in the business world. Lenovo/IBM, Dell, and HP all used to have ULV CPU's in their 12 inch business ultraportables. They don't anymore. It shows that corporate users of 12 inch business ultraportables either need more power than ULV CPU's can provide, or IT wants more future proofing than ULV CPU's can provide.

Lenovo is radically changing their best selling lines. I consider the chiclet keyboard a radical change.

The reason Ultraportables didn't make it is because they were priced in the stratosphere.

[tongdakfiend]

I can see why a lot of people like ultrabooks, and frankly, I see the future in ultrabooks rather than x220-like portables. However, I personally prefer my x220 over any current ultrabook on the market. The entire package of speed, battery life, IPS screen, keyboard and portability is just better for what I use it for.

[Pseudorandom]

A radical change that took three generations to get to the mainline Thinkpads. Change is good, blind change isn't.

Business ultraportables sold. ULV CPU only business ultraportables (X201s) didn't and now largely don't exist anymore. In business ultraportables that support both SV and ULV CPU's (such as the X220 now that the "s" variant is gone), the SV variants are vastly more popular than ULV variants. The conclusion I can draw from this is that when given the choice between similar laptops that have ULV or SV, most business buyers would take SV.

With this information, I think that these prosumer "business" ultrabooks aren't replacing X220's, but rather MacBook Airs.

[vēer]

Also, I doubt the Latitudes will be thinner this time around. There will probably be a Latitude ultrabook, but Latitude design refreshes are about every 2 years and they just had one.

I wouldnt bet on that, if ultrabooks are going to be all the rage with IB refresh, then sticking to "weve done it like this for years and we will continue so" tradition/attitude might bring lost sales to them, to any company with such attitude if competition wont sleep.