The Upcoming ThinkPad X230, X230i, T430, T430i, T530, T530i and W530?

[XX55XX]

There is nothing about the GPU architeture or size of manufactoring process. Do you think it's still 45nm and Fermi cores? Or new Kepler core? Thanks

The core clocks have been reduced. Guessing it's still 40nm Fermi.

[WardoX]

The core clocks have been reduced. Guessing it's still 40nm Fermi.

I hate this recycling and renaming. They make a GPU core and they slightly overclock it and than they sell under a new name. Rubbish.
Anyway I will upgrade when Haswell comes out. The Ivy bridge are just a bit stronger sandy bridge, its not worth it, and by that time there will be kepler quadro cards(Hopefully)

[alexthen]

spec x230 ??????????????????????!! usb3.0*2 / ee3.0

Pretty much everything you need to know about the 230.

But there's no hinting at a higher res. screen.

Though it does say HD-premium, which, unless I'm mistaken, also applies to the 220 w/ ips.

Glad to see the backlit keys option.

[Jayayess1190]

spec x230 ??????????????????????!! usb3.0*2 / ee3.0

Pretty much everything you need to know about the 230.

But there's no hinting at a higher res. screen.

Though it does say HD-premium, which, unless I'm mistaken, also applies to the 220 w/ ips.

Glad to see the backlit keys option.

Wow really? Ivy Bridge supports USB 3.0 and you only get two ports with it? These parts I do like:

• Cooler & Quieter Thermal Design with Dual Vents
• Improved noise keyboard noise suppression
• Dolby Advanced Audio 2.0
• New 6th-Row Precision Keyboard with Backlit Option

Now all it needs is the Core i7-3612QM as an option...

[Pseudorandom]

We lose the Thinklight as well. I don't use backlit since I can touch type, the Thinklight is useful for illuminating much more than the keyboard. Sad to see it go, though it's probably a better laptop for normal users that want good keyboard illumination. Oh well.

2 USB3 is decent for a laptop with 3 ports. It be nice if they were all USB3 though. I'm guessing they are keeping the Sleep and Charge USB as USB 2 for an unknown but probably legitimate reason.

I'm somewhat interested in what they did for a cooler and quieter design with practically the same chassis.

[ALLurGroceries]

I bet most people here can touch type, but maybe not reach for the perfect Fn+X key combo for any given function. Fn+F4 is easy enough, and so is Fn+PgUp, and Fn+Home/End, but for the less common ones a keyboard backlight is very useful. Whether the layout tradeoff is worth it is a different story.

For my desktop I have an unlabeled Das Keyboard, and I usually preferred a backlit keyboard on laptops until I got my X220. I hope I get a chance to try the [XT]?30 to see if it's the best of both worlds or not.

[Pseudorandom]

The grouping makes finding F# keys easy. Which they removed.

Though I personally like their choice to move backlight to Fn+Space though. Fn+PgUp was always pretty awkward for me.

[ALLurGroceries]

Fn+PgUp I think was designed from day one for the ease of hitting the keys at the edges of the keyboard to get the light on. At least that is one of the explanations behind the swapped Fn/Ctrl in thinkpad lore...

Anything + space is better for a hotkey though. I use ctrl+space to launch a terminal and ctrl+win+space for a superuser terminal. Anyone can be half asleep (or worse) and reliably hit that combo.

[Bronsky]

Thunderbolt support at a later date? Intel officially launches Ivy Bridge CPUs Really Intel? What does that mean? No thunderbolt ports in early IB models? That was the main reason I was considering an IB notebook, other than HD4000 graphics.

[ha1o2surfer]

The nVidia NVS 5200m is the same card as the GT525M with lower clockspeeds.. I hope they don't go 64bit bus again.. I see the 5400M is the same card just with a 128Bit bus. You will get slighter better performance out of this config and I can't see more heat being a problem since it's the same exact card with the same exact power requirements. I hope they go this route, but then again my T420's 4200M is a little bit more powerful then the IntelHD 3000 in my 2720QM. Some people say it's not worth the cost to get the nVidia card but you are not really paying for the gaming performance per-say. although I get 60FPS all day in COD4 while only getting 15-20 on the Intel HD card at full res so there is a difference.

the NVS 5200M is about twice as powerful as the 4200M. Spec wise.. who knows what lenovo will do to it because I predict the cooling system to stay the same (inthe T420 and T520) since the CPU will be more powerful yet use less power.. we will see. I am mostly interested in the keyboard too but a close second is the GPU. The screen is perfect for my needs and it doesn't bother me that much.

I bought an E520 recently for a family member and the keyboard is probably what lenovo is planning is putting on the newer Thinkpads. Looking at this thread and reading the measurements and how the new keyboards look, it is probably what they are going to feel like.. and.. it's not that bad..