T61/X61 SATA II 1.5 Gb/s cap - willing to pay for a solution

[User Retired 2]

Why doesn't the t9600 - t9900 work? Is it the fsb speed that my mobo won't support?

Also, would I even see much of a difference between a 7300 and 9300?

THe T9600-T9900 cpus set a BSEL of 266/1066Mhz. The 965PM chipset will halt upon detecting a non-supported BSEL. Officially the 965PM only supports 133/533Mhz and 200/800Mhz FSB.

Can use cpumark to compare a T7300 and a T9300. Ie:

T7300=1137
T8300=1503
T9300=1671
X9000=1950

[Hearst]

Don't forget the T7xxx (Merom) processors uses the 65nm process while the T8xxx/T9xxx (Penryn) processors uses the 45nm process. The 45nm process enables them to be far more energy efficient per clock than their 65nm counterpart. In other words, you will find the system much cooler with a Penryn processor inside compared to a Merom processor without sacrificing any performance.

[XStoneX]

I felt there was a noticeable performance improvement when I upgraded the T7300 to the now used T9500. But you shouldn't await wonders.

Also the temperture is really okay, the current idle consumption (display min., WLAN on) is ~12,5 - 13,5 watts. With an Intel graphic chip the idle consumption is about 8-9 watts, the nVidia Quadro needs (and has) more power.

Over all I am really happy with my T61, I don't need to upgrade it in the next few years, thats fix.

Greetz,

XStoneX

EDIT: wPrime 32M; T7300: 40,218 sec., T9500: 35,225 sec.

[jedisurfer1]

if you want the best price/performance ratio I think a t9300 will do. I don't think most will notice the 100mhz. The great thing about the penryn besides the 45nm and cooler processor is the 6mb l2 cache. That I noticed. Oh and they underclock really good. I've got mine at .95v from 600mhz to 2.4ghz

[Hearst]

Oh and they underclock really good. I've got mine at .95v from 600mhz to 2.4ghz

Just wondering what CPU temperatures you got after undervolting, i'm guessing they be in the low 30's as my stock T9300 is running around 39~46c in power source optimized mode.

[jedisurfer1]

Just wondering what CPU temperatures you got after undervolting, i'm guessing they be in the low 30's as my stock T9300 is running around 39~46c in power source optimized mode.

yeah that's what my temps are. But I have it set differently. Mine is running 12x = maximal performance, 9x = performance on demand, 6x super LFM = power saving.

I hate the constant switching (and I see no temp difference for super lfm and max at .95v, actually I saw 1c lower when not constantly have the machine switch speeds) so if I'm testing out VMs, doing development work I set it to max performance, performance on demand if I'm doing random things, super LFM if I'm just surfing the net or at barnes and noble. I'm at 39-50c, though I'm also using TPfancontrol and have it at 2 or 3 (I can't hear it). Also since the t61p gpu card is a known issue I way way underclocked mine. I think I had it at 140 core/280 shader core/280-400 for memory. I think default for 3d apps is 475/950/950 and if you check in cpu-z for some reason before I forced the underclock it ran 475/950/950 even in 2d apps which is overkill (clean win7x64 install).

Also I think you probably run much cooler than my setup because I'm also using an Antec laptop cooling pad, and I have the ultra bay dvd writer removed (though I see no temp difference but I assume that's a decent size hole for heat to escape).

Next I'd like to underVolt the gpu, but I'd need to find a cheapo t61p extract the bios and flash it. A guinea pig t61p of sorts. I'm not willing to do it my machine yet as it's still current and useful to me.

Another really useful thing I've done in the past is attached copper shims or pennies, attach thermal pads, stack a few so they are touching the back of the keyboard (a huge metal surface area). I literally had a 9c drop in temps by doing this on a dell. Also keep in mind the cpu/gpu/chipset all seem to be connected to the heatsink fan assemply. So if you undervolt, underclock, cool any of those parts it helps the other. I also have some really interesting ideas on building a more efficient heatsink/fan cooling options but work has been too busy too lately.

edit: I see you have the intel integrated GPU, could explain why your cpu temps are lower, they share the same heatsink.

[Renee]

"Note: WINUPTP.EXE was also patched. You won't get the message "BIOS image file is same as BIOS ROM. An update is not necessary at this time." anymore.
ISO CD-Image was changed with the same goal. Now BIOS update CD is able to flash firmware even if the new and the current versions are the same.
Important note: When you boot from this CD, BIOS update will start automatically."

I have a question that I', emarased about.

I have a 64 bit T61P running Win 7. Is the bootable bios included with the t61P package or where do I find it?

Renee

[s0dhi]

"Note: WINUPTP.EXE was also patched. You won't get the message "BIOS image file is same as BIOS ROM. An update is not necessary at this time." anymore.
ISO CD-Image was changed with the same goal. Now BIOS update CD is able to flash firmware even if the new and the current versions are the same.
Important note: When you boot from this CD, BIOS update will start automatically."

I have a question that I', emarased about.

I have a 64 bit T61P running Win 7. Is the bootable bios included with the t61P package or where do I find it?

Renee

Download and extract the package for the T61p (2.27-1.08). You will find an ISO image (7luj26uc.iso) there, burn that to disk and boot from it to flash the BIOS.

[adam7777]

Will this sata II cap solution work for:

Thinkpad X60 Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0Ghz

... as the X61 uses the same processor?

[XStoneX]

As I know, there are no X60 with Core 2 Duo CPUs on market. Please verify it or tell us your detailed model-no (like 7663-CTO).

Greetz,

XStoneX