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    Default Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    Has there been much speculation over the specs of the upcoming W510 and T510? I'm looking for a 15" workstation to do Photoshop work with in the next few months. Discreet graphics and a quality screen are going to be very important. The current T500 and W500 are pretty close to what I'm looking for, but with January around the corner, I able to wait if the refreshes are going to be significantly better...

    Advantages of the W line or T line over the other?
    What's going to be new/upgraded?
    Thoughts on when these models are gonna be released?

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    Default Re: Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    One generation to the next are usually not significant. I'd say if you can find a good deal on one new, buy. The GPU and the WUXGA screen are the main benefits of the W series. The WSXGA+ if you get the LG is above average I would say, but the trend in all laptop sales is price is the preponderant factor for most people. They don't care about screen quality enough to pay for it. There are some who care about screen quality, but we're in the minority.

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    Default Re: Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    Quote Originally Posted by Nrbelex View Post
    Has there been much speculation over the specs of the upcoming W510 and T510? I'm looking for a 15" workstation to do Photoshop work with in the next few months. Discreet graphics and a quality screen are going to be very important. The current T500 and W500 are pretty close to what I'm looking for, but with January around the corner, I able to wait if the refreshes are going to be significantly better...

    Advantages of the W line or T line over the other?
    What's going to be new/upgraded?
    Thoughts on when these models are gonna be released?

    Thanks,
    Brett
    The T usually has consumer GPU, while W has workstation GPU. It will be updated in Q1 2010 according to the Lenovo roadmap. Does Photoshop even require a workstion card? Same as all other notebooks in Q1 2010, notebooks will have the new dual core i5/i7s and an updated GPU (most likely HD 4650/workstation variant for the T/W510 series)
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    Default Re: Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    is W510 even gonna happen? I didnt see it on the roadmaps
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    Default Re: Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    If anyone notices the X302 isn't on the road-map either. From what I'm told, they will be updated later along in 2010 (Feb, or March probably).
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    Default Re: Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    Quote Originally Posted by ZaZ View Post
    One generation to the next are usually not significant..
    On this specific go-round there is a good chance of seeing a different screen size and screen quality from Lenovo, so I would't be so quick to dismiss the generation change.

    I myself am holding out until january. The current generation has screens bad enough that there is nothing to lose by waiting. Worst come to worst if the screens arent better on 510 series, then I can pick up a 500 for dirt cheap in the outlet at that point anyway. Just no downside to waiting.

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    Default Re: Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    i'm guessing all the next gen thinkpads would have 16:9 after watching engadget's video on a presentation by someone (sorry, don't remember what, but he's in charge of designing thinkpads) from lenovo japan. they probably would get core i5/i7 as well.

    both these (if true) are most definitely significant.

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    Default Re: Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    I wouldn't think from a performance perspective the i7s will be markedly better than what's available right now.

    If they do indeed go 16:9, that would be a pretty significant because it means no more WSXGA+. You're left with WXGA++(1600x900), another decrease in vertical resolution, or WUXGA(1920x1080), which has a pixels per inch over 140. That's higher than my 15" UXGA, which means text will be small and harder to read. I'd like to think they're going to offer something better, but if history is a guide, I think it's unlikely. I'd say if you want a WSXGA+ screen now's the time to buy with all the coupons. Pray for the LG.

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    Default Re: Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    Quote Originally Posted by ZaZ View Post
    If they do indeed go 16:9, that would be a pretty significant because it means no more WSXGA+. You're left with WXGA++(1600x900), another decrease in vertical resolution, or WUXGA(1920x1080), which has a pixels per inch over 140. That's higher than my 15" UXGA, which means text will be small and harder to read. I'd like to think they're going to offer something better, but if history is a guide, I think it's unlikely. I'd say if you want a WSXGA+ screen now's the time to buy with all the coupons. Pray for the LG.
    15.4" WUXGA (1920X1200) is 147 PPI. 15.4" 1920x1080 is 143 PPI.

    Size of text is defined by software and its settings in relation to hardware. Properly setup software-wise, so the fonts are the size wished for, the higher the PPI the easier on the eyes, not harder. Myths based on a lack of understanding of how PC's operate do not become true by repetition/rumour. The new resolution will not be quite as easy on the eyes as 15.4" WUXGA, but better than 15" UXGA; in each case, as always, dependent on software settings.

    If you are at present reading text comfortably on a 15" UXGA (133 PPP - the same as 17" WUXGA), and you know how to set the software, then you will be quite happy with 15.4" 1920x1080. If 15" UXGA is at present hard on the eyes (i.e poor software settings), then any increase of PPI will also be unpleasant.
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    Default Re: Thinkpad T510 vs. W510

    It's been my experience that most people stick with the default, which means a PPI of 143 or 147 will make for very small text.

 

 
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