Feast your eyes on the new leaked images of T410s

[wilse]

So these computers are stuffed with 3D gaming cards, marketed heavily to consumers, disounted heavily in consumer media, sold via most major online retialers like J&R and Amazon.....but they are still purely business computers? Oh right. Your bending-over-backwards level denial is actually just funny.

3D gaming cards?

No.

Marketed heavily to consumers?

I've never seen a Lenovo T-series advertisement in any kind of "consumer" publication or other medium.

Discounted heavily?

I have no idea how that means that Lenovo designs the Thinkpads for consumers rather than business.

Sold online?

Really? Selling something through an online retailer means they aren't business oriented?



Listen, we'll just have to disagree here. I think that it is pretty obvious to anyone who knows a bit about Lenovo's offerings and sales numbers that Thinkpads are designed and marketed for bulk-scale corporate clients. I don't think the fact that they invest a small amount of effort into trying to pick up the random consumer that might want to buy the product means much - of course they'd take this business - who wouldn't?

I say Lenovo designs the Thinkpad for businesses. You say Lenovo designs the Thinkpad for "consumers." I think you are wrong. You think I am wrong. Apparently we are both amazed that the other party could honestly believe the crap they are spewing. I've said my piece, and I'm obviously not going to convince you. Whether or not you agree with me or continue to service your own reality really isn't of much consequence. End of story.

[thinkpad knows best]

Where is this random notion that ThinkPads are now consumer notebooks coming from? Lot of hot air blowing in here to me, show me one Best-Buy that currently is displaying and selling ThinkPads.

[thinkpad knows best]

So these computers are stuffed with 3D gaming cards, marketed heavily to consumers, disounted heavily in consumer media, sold via most major online retialers like J&R and Amazon.....but they are still purely business computers? Oh right. Your bending-over-backwards level denial is actually just funny.

And your bending over bacakwards to deny that businesses won't go for the best price for what you are getting, is just funny! If there is a business, or corporation, that isn't a term that means you can automatically assume they will completely disregard cost and value, and just get 3000 dollar mobile workstations for everybody. Lenovo has the average business user, as well as the former, whichis known as the W series.

[chupacabras]

I believe thinkpads are still business oriented machines--how many people do you know who have thinkpads who don't use them for work (whether their own or their businesses)? However that is my view coming from North America--while I was living in Germany, they actually did have thinkpads in major electronic retail outlets.

[Serg]

So these computers are stuffed with 3D gaming cards, marketed heavily to consumers, disounted heavily in consumer media, sold via most major online retialers like J&R and Amazon.....but they are still purely business computers? Oh right. Your bending-over-backwards level denial is actually just funny.

A GPU is NOT ONLY a 3D gaming card. Read some of OpenCL, DirectCompute, OpenGL and then rethink on it.

Graphics: We're Not (Just) Playing Games Anymore

A GPU is more than capable of just gaming if you didnt know. And yes, they are used on the consumer market too, cause they can run games, but they can have multiple display, accelerate 3D softwares and 2D softwares, off-load the CPU on some GPGPU tasks (refer to the above) and are more future proof than the puny 4500MHD in that area, where the Intel IGP cannot perform the any GPGPU tasks.

So the fact that they have Radeon instead of FirePro inside is not because they are consumer oriented, but rather price-based. Look at the T500 and W500. Same laptop, same everything. Same GPU but different versions of it. Price on the W500 is higher. And the FireGL and FirePro are CAD/CAM/DCC and as a manufacturer you dont want to put that on every laptop you sell, it is not worth it, and redundant, considering that the Radeons (that you are diminishing) are more than capable.

Now please. Start replying with some respect please. This is a public forum, and people will not tolerate someone coming here and treating them bad because of a disagreement. Read the Forum Rules for further information.

[Serg]

Just for the record these listed in red are all wrong.
-x301 screen is middling.
- X200 is not IPS and it isnt world beating either.

Maybe you think "high brightness" = good screen, but that is several hundred miles away from the truth.

On the X301 I wouldnt know. I am just guessing, as it is a flagship model on portability.
My apologies, the X200 tablet is a S-PVA like jonlumpkin's which is above a TN panel As far as I know.

And I invite you NOT to assume what I think. High Brightness is good, but there are other things to take into consideration of a display, such as if it is 6bit or 8bit, the contrast, the resolution, the backlighting, etc.

[hax0rJimDuggan]

Where is this random notion that ThinkPads are now consumer notebooks coming from? Lot of hot air blowing in here to me, show me one Best-Buy that currently is displaying and selling ThinkPads.

Actually I was quite surprised a few weeks ago when I walked into BB and found a ThinkPad for sale.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Lenovo+-...&skuId=9569497

[Serg]

It is a SL ThinkPad, not a R, T, X or W. ^^

[skagen]

And your bending over bacakwards to deny that businesses won't go for the best price for what you are getting, is just funny!

I will repeat again for those who are apparently unable to hold more than one concept in their heads at the same time.

Lenovo aims to sell Thinkpad T series to govt and businesses
Lenovo also targets consumers to sell this product to
Both sets of purchasers can find value in a good quality screen option

The fact that these three concepts held together are a subject of debate is hilarious.

[cashflow2]

I will repeat again for those who are apparently unable to hold more than one concept in their heads at the same time.

Lenovo aims to sell Thinkpad T series to govt and businesses
Lenovo also targets consumers to sell this product to
Both sets of purchasers can find value in a good quality screen option

The fact that these three concepts held together are a subject of debate is hilarious.

You are exactly correct.