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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    Anand's latest SSD article has a equation/table for longevity of modern SSDs.
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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by jonlumpkin View Post
    The Intel SSD has a very aggressive controller that uses write combining and write amplification and thus delivers exceptional performance for small random writes. These small random writes are often the most important thing for general OS responsiveness and perceived speed.

    The newer Samsung and Indillix drives are substantially faster for large sequential writes. However, unless you are feeding your SSD from a very fast source (e.g. another internal SSD) or are capturing/editing high-bitrate HD video it is extremely difficult to throw >70MB/s at any drive for a long period of time.

    The fact that sequential performance is far less important than random performance is why I have little incentive to upgrade my 64GB Samsung SLC SSD. Additionally, if I did upgrade it would be to a drive with a controller similar to the Intel that improved performance on small random writes (where mine is very good but not exceptional).

    Extremely....I mean exceptionally well explained. Thanks very much, jon. I already went back to the Intel, and the WEI (Windows Experience Index), and you know, I go by that! Just like I do with the terror color chart.

    Anyway, the Intel is now back to 7.5 out of 7.9. The Samsung had gotten a 6.8, which isn't too shabby either, but the Intel SSD is not only lightning fast, but it's consistently lightning fast.

    erik, thank you as well. As usual, awesome crowd on this board! By the way, remember I got the X25-M SSD MLC literally one year ago, in September '08, right when they came out, and purchased from a cool dude who ran runs his own business, for $550 shipped. I do also remember that somehow I wasn't convinced that it was a new drive. For this, and a few other reasons, I didn't really like it. It didn't even feel like it was faster. It would even BSOD my T60p, andmy hands were tied, before it eventually crashed completely. The drive wasn't dead, I just had to reformat it, and I didn't have the patience for it at the time, so I didn't bother exchanging it, and sold it.

    Finally, this one was manufactured on 7/26/09, so how do I tell if it's a Gen 2 model.
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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    Hi,

    I bought a X301 with a Samsung 128GB SSD in late July this year and it appears to have the older 1st generation SSD (MMCQE28G8MUP FRU41W0519) from the attached benchmarks.

    What are the chances of having this drive replaced with the newer MMCRE28G8MXP (FRU45N7953) model, seeing that the hardware maintenance manual for the X301 only references the older 41W0519 FRU ?

    Thanks
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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchDude View Post
    Finally, this one was manufactured on 7/26/09, so how do I tell if it's a Gen 2 model.
    You most likely do not have a G2. The end of the model number should say G1 or G2...but the G2 JUST started to come out at the time you mentioned yours was manufactured. Then the G2 line was pulled for a firmware update. I haven't seen the X18 G2 around much anyways. The X25 G2 is around here and there but goes out of stock really quickly. Just check the model number in device manager. But as I said most likely you have a G1. Unfortunately Intel is not going to release an update for TRIM support for the G1...
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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    I have been looking around to find some benchmark tests for the new Intel X18-M 160GB. Anyone have any good review links with??

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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by stylinexpat View Post
    I have been looking around to find some benchmark tests for the new Intel X18-M 160GB. Anyone have any good review links with??
    Should be exactly the same as the X25m 160 G2. Check Anand's articles.
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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by stylinexpat View Post
    I have been looking around to find some benchmark tests for the new Intel X18-M 160GB. Anyone have any good review links with??
    edit: beaten. exact same as X25-M
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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    So one of these new T400s with a new Intel X18 SSD in it should really fly

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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    It would be pretty damn fast. It's still a little too costly for my blood atm. Maybe when the 80GB drive costs $100 or less, I'd get it.
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    Default Re: Samsung 128GB SSD vs. Intel 80GB X18-M...benchies! ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by chrixx View Post
    How is it even possible to secure one of the new Samsung drives? Can I just complain to Lenovo that my SSD isn't performing as well as those in newer X301s and get them to replace it? It's technically a "defect" because we're talking same product, but vastly different performance.
    Yes, you can. You guys are sometimes too afraid of corporations. Nothing against you, chrixx. I was just answering your question...lol. No, it has just been my observation that some members here are furious, but don't do anything about it. The same is true for cellphone customers in several another forums that I am a member of.

    Do your homework, i.e. get the FRU #, model #, and whatever identifies a drive, a stick of memory, an accessory, or anything else that defines an item as unique. Then make the call, write that email, and/or complain in the Lenovo forums. There are Lenovo moderators, which will likely very quickly come to your aid.

    No one representing Lenovo in whatever capacity wants you to be unhappy. They want you to come back next time, for another Thinkpad. As if we wouldn't anyway.

    Be polite, do not demand, don't be too aggressive, yet assertive (hard to explain), and absolutely no "language" of the four-letter kind.

    Try not to be shy, and have the mindset that this is what you're going to accomplish, not attempt to.

    In the case of the Samsung and its two different model and FRU numbers, be insistent that you bought this very expensive drive in good faith from Lenovo, a company that was recommended to you, or a company you have come to trust. You could have likely saved some good money, but no, you wanted one-stop shopping, and didn't want to buy from some fly-by-night computer accessory operation. Then you can add: "I'm not saying that about Lenovo, Sir, and I'm sure that this was merely a mistake.".

    I'll definitely exchange my Samsung (0VA/slow) for a (0VB/speedy) one.

    I'm sorry for the long post. I hope this will help somebody at some point,

    Good luck to you all!
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