Lenovo Thinkpad T410 Owner's Lounge

[TinyRK]

Let's wrap some things up for the T410!

DO NOT UPDATE TO THE NEWEST BIOSes 1.12 or 1.15 until you read this
T410, update new BIOS, SLIC misssing!




Reviews:
http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3782
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Leno...d-T410-Review/
http://www.thinkpads.com/2010/03/01/...thinkpad-t410/
http://www.notebookreview.com/defaul...+thinkpad+t410
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Le...k.25119.0.html
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/lapt...kpad-t410.aspx

Lenovo T410 Service Training guide videos:
http://www.lenovoservicetraining.com...410/index.html

T410 Teardown:
http://www.thinkpads.com/2010/03/07/...410-upgrading/

Some impressions:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...74&postcount=1

Melted speaker caused by charging it over night:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...&postcount=199

Pics of the screen:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...9&postcount=28

Only proof of switchable graphics so far (see attached pic - courtesy of mhs093), gone after update to Power Manager V3.12 :
http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...7&postcount=17

Info NVS3100/5100
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvs_techspecs.html

Couple of benchmarks:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...8&postcount=39

Drivers for the T410:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/si...&validate=true

New BIOS:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/si...cid=MIGR-74268

Version 1.15-1.06
BIOS: 1.15 / ECP: 1.06

* [Important] Prevents from preload 64-bit Windows re-activation after updating a BIOS.(This BIOS fix does not resolve re-activation request itself) (This problem does not affect when BIOS updating by BIOS Update CD)
* (New) Improve key input response.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where StartUp Interrupt Menu can not be displayed by condition.
* (Fix) For vPro users: Fixed an issue where multiple provisioning data handling by USB key provisioning does not work.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where network boot may not be executed via ethernet device.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where screen may not displayed on LCD panel when pressing Fn+F7 key on NVIDIA NVS 3100M model when system boot with closed LCD.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where an device with yellow "!" in device manager on ThinkPad T410i.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue optical media may not be ejected by once pressing eject button.


Version 1.12-1.04
BIOS: 1.12 / ECP: 1.04

* (New) Added support for ThinkPad T410i.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where block-noise appeared on the screen when playing the video through the IEEE 1394 port.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where the ExpressCard device might not work after restarting the computer.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue that Disabling Intel AMT option in the BIOS Setup menu did not function correctly.


Version 1.09-1.02
BIOS: 1.09 / ECP: 1.02

* (New) Improved the waiting time indication for security chip related operations.
* (New) Optimized the waiting time for security chip operations as per device.
* (New) Optimized graphics device settings.
* (New) Updated LENOVO and Phoenix copyright year to 2010.

Version 1.08-1.02
BIOS: 1.08 / ECP: 1.02

* (Fix) Fixed an issue where an unnecessary audio device was listed in the device manager on the integrated graphics model.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where a black rectangle overlapped the ThinkPad logo during boot.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where a 0253 error might occur during boot.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where another error messages would be lost when the warning message for unsupported AC adapters was displayed.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where the display switching function by Fn+F7 key might not work with the external display attached to the digital port on Port Replicator.
* (Fix) Fixed an issue where Wake On LAN in hibernation state might fail.

Version 1.07-1.02
BIOS: 1.07 / ECP: 1.02

* (Fix) Fixed an issue where iPod could not be charged when Always On USB Mode is "iPod or iPhone".

Version 1.05-1.02
BIOS: 1.05 / ECP: 1.02

* (New) Initial release for ThinkPad T410.

[mhs093]

Here are my quick first impressions as my first Thinkpad. I'm coming from a 15" Unibody Macbook Pro.

Overall, build quality is very good. There is a significant amount of flex in the display though, especially between the hinges. I love the keyboard and don't notice too much flex there. I also don't have the creaking in the palm rests that some mentioned. The mute and volume buttons feel cheap, but I suppose they will get the job done. The textured track pad is different. I was hesitant about the 9-cell battery size and weight, but since it was the only option for the model with discrete graphics, I ended up with it anyway. It doesn't stick out as far as I expected, and now I'm glad I got it. Overall I'm very happy.

After I booted into Windows for the first time, the fan started to run constantly. I downloaded TPfancontrol, and it shows the cpu idling around 39-40 deg C, but the fan is whirring away at 3600rpm. I'll wait until others receive theirs to see what is going on with this.

The switchable graphics option showed up under my Power Manager version 3.11a, but disappeared after I updated to 3.12.

I'll get some more tests up for the discrete graphics in a bit. Here's a picture of the 9 cell battery. I don't have a T400 to compare it to, but it doesn't seem to stick out as far.

[evone]

How much will go to the computer 9-cell battery?

[CajunCARTFan]

Is the screen on the T410 still off center like the T400?

[khtse]

Originally Posted by mhs093

After I booted into Windows for the first time, the fan started to run constantly. I downloaded TPfancontrol, and it shows the cpu idling around 39-40 deg C, but the fan is whirring away at 3600rpm. I'll wait until others receive theirs to see what is going on with this.

The new Core i5/i7 CPUs runs hotter than the current generation of Core 2 Duo CPUs, basically due to the integration of memory controller and itself being a more complicated architecture.

You can try to set the fan to trigger only at, say, 50C, using TPfancontrol. I have set my X61 fan to start at 48C at a low speed, and then increase the speed for every 3-5C increment.

[wilse]

it is troubling that customers have their T410 in hand
but lenovo has still not sent any out to professional reviewers
it makes me worry that they have reasons to not want the T410 reviewed by professionals

[MidnightSun]

Originally Posted by CajunCARTFan

Is the screen on the T410 still off center like the T400?

Nope, it's centered.

[rippeer]

Originally Posted by wilse

it is troubling that customers have their T410 in hand
but lenovo has still not sent any out to professional reviewers
it makes me worry that they have reasons to not want the T410 reviewed by professionals

Too true. So I take it the new t410's are not quite?

[BrokenArrow]

mhs093,
could you please run the PerformanceTest (PassMark.com)?
thanks in advance!

p.s'
what are your specs?

[trblsht]

Originally Posted by wilse

it is troubling that customers have their T410 in hand
but lenovo has still not sent any out to professional reviewers
it makes me worry that they have reasons to not want the T410 reviewed by professionals

Troubling yes but how about those people who are supposed to be assisting customers with troubleshooting undergoing training for these machines 6 months after customers have had them.