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    ERG. I am feeling conflicted. Just realized I can build a $200 PC using A8-3800. That's cheap like Xbox. In fact I could probably do it with $150 or less...IF there is a budget board with IDE. I absolutely do not need one, but you can inspire endless rage in other people by fragging them with a Yugo-budget desktop. [/QUOTE]

    There is in fact, a substantial increase in performance with an increase in ram speed, however, in the laptops, i have yet to find fast 1600 ram with cl7 or 8.
    You will see squat increase with 1600 cl11.

    In a desktop tho, IF you make sure to get a mboard that supports overclockiing, the increase in speeds available thru faster ram are borderline huge, as not only do the desktop mem controllers enable higher than 1600, you can also find reasonable mem modules with the faster CL's. Throw in a well matched dedicated gpu, and you will achieve astonishing gaming performance in a 250.00 or so desktop. Clearly the current 'bang for buck' champ out there.

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    I had 1600mhz CL9 and that barely did anything. 1600mhz CL11 literally has 2% more latency than 1333mhz CL9 so they are on even ground when testing for the effects of extra bandwidth.


    Quote Originally Posted by calc_yolatuh View Post
    ERG. I am feeling conflicted. Just realized I can build a $200 PC using A8-3800. That's cheap like Xbox. In fact I could probably do it with $150 or less...IF there is a budget board with IDE. I absolutely do not need one, but you can inspire endless rage in other people by fragging them with a Yugo-budget desktop.
    What's the point? You would get better performance out of your current laptop.

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    I didn't think the iGPU had enough ROPs or raw clock speed to benefit...whereas desktop barely does...

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    Quote Originally Posted by calc_yolatuh View Post
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    Thanks! Yeah, I'm coming from a Sandy Bridge, so I hope it doesn't feel TOO Much worse with a 2GHz A series quad. This thing well configured is like half the price, and I don't really feel like spending as much money again, which this SHOULD be fine for me for quite a while.

    The Intel CPU + AMD GPU issue has me skipping those systems, since as I understand it you can't install AMD's normal drivers.

    Sounds lame there are any issues at all with AMD + AMD with choosing which GPU to use...but at least at worst a 400 core 444MHz integrated GPU is far from a joke! Hmm...I'll probably be paranoid about whether it's really using the better GPU, but for only $75 it's a no brainer to buy it for me!

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    R3d: This, as I said...it is not a matter of need. It is a matter of pride and winning at Limbo. :/ A beige tin case with a 1/2lb Sunbeam PSU, battered IBM keyboard with PS/1 to PS/2 AND PS/2 to USB adapter. Their blood will be boiling before I even turn it on.

    Wolfpup: Just be sure to have a valid coupon code. Since HP continually rains down 20-30% or $200-400 discounts, it would only make sense to take advantage of this. The AMD version still averages close to $200 cheaper from what I saw early in this thread, but maybe things have changed.

    Does anyone know if there's a compatible caddy that will hold a slim 3.5" HDD?

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    By slim 3.5" HDD do you mean 9.5mm? Check my guide under hardware and someone suggested a caddy that worked for them.

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    I'm trying to set my P-states. Currently I have the states set from P6=800Mhz/0.7625V to P1=2100MHz/1.1V and I've able to run Prime95 successfully for hours on those states.

    P6, however, is showing signs of what I believe is throttling. I started at 2300Mhz and now 2250/1.1625 and see one or more core's clock speeds drop. As I write this temps are 73-74C with HP Coolsense on Coolest. Changing Coolsense to Performance raises the temps to 77C.

    This is on a dv6z-6b00 A8-3530MX

    Where do I go from here?

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    I have seen desktop LLano guys get nearly 25 percent increase in benchmark performance by going to faster ram with low CL's. I seem to recall reading and remarking in this thread about numerous overclocking/test sites that achieved the same thing. I *will* tell you that the upcoming trin chips show even better reaction to fast ram and accordingly, amd has kicked the acceptable ram speeds up to over 2000, 2100 if I remember correctly. Of course, this presumes overclocking.

    Lastly, the abilities of the whole llano/*fusion* type chips continues to surprise me. If you recall I had detailed the acquisition for "peanuts" (low 200.00 range) of a Lenovo B575 using the E-450 chip. I just got thru a multi hour session of Skyrim with all settings on medium and res at 1368x768 and I have to tell you...no problems at all, looked very good, and no discernible command lag. amazing..
    coupled with its ability to play wow at the same rez with vis distance on ultra, while never falling below 27fps, and I am frankly, astonished. No problems raiding, nothing AND, the highest I've seen the temps is 59C on the apu, and 39C on the mboard sensor....jeez.

    Here's the kicker, the new trin for ultrathins will run within the same power envelope as the 450..bout 18 to 20 watts...with multiples of its performance level.. laptop computing on the cheap is about to get really really satisfying UNFORTUNATELY...release of the trin lappies is being moved back for some as yet unexplained (to me anyway) reason. Being told now that we *might* see some appear in april. sigh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by calc_yolatuh View Post
    Does anyone know if there's a compatible caddy that will hold a slim 3.5" HDD?
    LOL! Not going to happen...if I understand correctly, you want to fit a slim but full length/width 3.5" hard drive into the optical drive slot?

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    I'm hoping he meant 2.5" and not 3.5". That's what I meant to say, but stated 3.5" in my post anyhow... oops.

    If it's truly a 3.5" no way, it requires 12v. 2.5" runs off 5v.

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