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    Default Re: *HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Quote Originally Posted by calc_yolatuh View Post
    Well, the 16GB only makes a little sense if I do something about that HDD. I've had it set to lid close = hibernate, and that becomes retarded with 16GB. Using a SSD I could set it to lid close = shutdown. But maybe I should just grab a 2x4 kit for $40 and see it I can make 20 back on the RAM that came with it. Don't want to invest much until we see if Trinity takes off, but I think Llano may actually have been gimped a bit to improve the Trinity bang/watt numbers.

    If you look at battery numbers running undervolted, Llano's rather impressive compared to the stock figures. We'll find out for certain once people get their hands on Trinity to experiment with voltages and headroom.

    I'm not questioning the iGPU claims tho, even if it's just a bandwidth hike for MSAA or something. Trinity should have better graphics, possibly hardware encoder too, but I'll probably sit on my Llano and wait for the next generation.

    One thing would be in', and I do not care who does it: a dedicated sideband channel to encode 60fps capture from the video output. No more FRAPS lag, no capture devices, just video streamed direct to disk.
    In fact the a8 equiv trin does appear to have some kind of dedicated side channel link, as well as some kind of actual dedicated apugpu mem. I have seen two different variations on how this separate mem was implemented. I do not know which of the competing designs emerged victorious. One thing that is amazing tho, is THAT for new hardware, these things are amazingly stable. In fact, the trin is so efficient, that the low volt version (17watt) is equiv to our current 3530's, with a better graph card. That is the reason amd decided to trash the brazos replacements, no need, just turn down the voltage on the trinity and rock on. Crank up the voltage and all sorts of good things start to happen Oh, and on these new amd "Ultrathins" , you really have to physically handle the thing to appreciate just how light and thin they are. Astounding. What this remarkable stability suggests, is that the o'clock potential of the new trins is going to be nothing short of outrageous.

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    I hope all your cheerleading proves out seeratlas. You're getting me excited and ready to pop out my credit card already, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkkent57 View Post
    I had to run through about four different youtube videos, but I figured the trick out and didn't break anything.

    You only have to dislodge the two end clips, and the thing snaps right off.

    One clip is obvious, on the blunt (perfectly rectangular) side. You just push a fairly large phillips in the hole and it pops the clip.

    The other side was far trickier, mostly because it's not obvious there's a clip; it looks like one solid piece, but it's not. It's on the flat flange. I used a jeweler's screwdriver to press down on the clip once I found it, and it pushed out easily.

    From there, just beneath the bezel, there are three (I think) clips and they just opo when you pull 'em...no breakage.

    The last clip is on the flange side, and it's an obvious hook-like clip, but you don't really have to worry about it. It unhooked when I popped the bezel off.

    Installation is a snap (pun fully intended.) You just line up the clips on the holes and push.
    Care to do a write up with maybe a couple photos to add in my DV6z guide? What you wrote there is pretty complete. Maybe include a link to the caddy you bought as well?

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    Default Re: *HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    anyone get ati tray tools to oc the 6750m or do i have to stick with afterburner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hypertek View Post
    anyone get ati tray tools to oc the 6750m or do i have to stick with afterburner?
    If doesnt seem to pick up the 6750m the one time i tried it.

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    Default Re: *HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    How's the gaming on this laptop? I'm intersted in this or the Envy 15. I have always liked to have AMD when I could.

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    I think with undervolt and stock clocks my 3500m is probably similar to Trinity ULV wattage. Power envelope is about right if I can play Starcraft II for 2-3hrs on stock battery, and older fare like Oblivion and Far Cry for 5 hours. Feels like 1.5GHz only draws about 2W per core, otherwise no way I'm getting so far on this battery. But the Trinity appears to have some level of hardware video coder if it wasn't eating all the CPU. The graphics should be faster, though maybe it just has dedicated mem with a wide channel so you can do MSAA without drowning.

    Nobody can argue the multitasking demo isn't impressive. Especially after Sandy Bridge had poor launch drivers holding down graphics even further, and Ivy Bridge was running a damn video in VLC. The Llano and Trinity demos are just so appealing when you see a laptop driving 2-3 monitors doing all the usual stuff simultaneously. So the Ivy Bridge can finally play a game or two, meanwhile the Llano can dual box in MMOs while playing a video and hosting a chat. Much more impressive.

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    I love the fact that the iGPU is so powerful, hoping that the Trinity one will be ~50% moreso than the 6620G currently in the Llano. As it stands I can use the iGPU to play most games at a reasonable framerate at 720p. A 50% performance improvement may actually let me play at 1080p or full detail at 720p. I am certain it will be better than HD 3000, which is already showing to be quite impressive itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCARTFan View Post
    How's the gaming on this laptop? I'm intersted in this or the Envy 15. I have always liked to have AMD when I could.
    Well, mine has been great for games. It takes a little software tinkering to get the extra power and efficiency that lurks inside the hull, but it feels rewarding when you do.

    The i-series laptops have a little more power to start, they also have a fast video coder that's good enough for youtube. The i-series also costs more.

    Ordering from HP (and using a coupon code), you should be able to get a nice dv6z-quad for about $700USD. You can get close to that with dv6t also, I hear. What does the Envy have? A lit keyboard? Anything else?

    One big thing: The dv6z is MUCH better for gaming on battery, so getting a big battery makes it even better. Playing at a LAN party without plugging in, hilarious!!

    I guess timing could be a factor though. If you have the time and want to take chances, wait for Trinity vs Ivy Bridge laptops. If you can't wait I suggest the dv6z, because it's fun to mess around with.

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    Well, you still have four cores with DV6z. i5 mobile chips just can't match that. Sure at single or two threads the i5 may be a bit better but for general Windows use and newer games, more cores = overall better performance.

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