Gaming - dv6tqe/dv7tqe

[DV6T--]

I'll take this one.
I think the thing to keep in mind is that BOTH the CPU and GPU share the same fan and cooling pipeline, attached to each heatsink. Typically the CPU is directly under the fan in single-fan systems, while a copper pipe runs further away to the more distant GPU.

This is CRUCIAL because an overheating CPU can easily cook other heat-sensitive parts on the same cooling pipeline such as the GPU.
Heatsinks aren't one-way. If the GPU is at any time cooler, its sink will conduct heat from the CPU or vice-versa.

Actually it does shares the same fan and your idea is perfectly right but there is something I wanna let you know. The GPU is on a different pipeline than the CPU and it is actually closer to the fan than the CPU is to the fan. Second you guys have got to stop making your CPU do soo much work since no game uses a cpu much at all it's all strain on the GPU(So like his idea is keeping your cpu running coolest as possible so gpu gets good cooling) so don't worry about throttling. Moreover you guys are getting 85s with coolsense on coolest?? and 95s with it off? You guys are pushing the thermal limit. I thought my paste was bad and mine doesn't go above 75 in gta playing for 1+hr and the gpu is more like 72C. I'm wondering if i redo my paste if I can get the temps down to how one of my cores is running(It's running 36s at idle while the others run 42-45) BTW how long does it take for your temps to go back down to 50s after stopping a game... mine takes long and the air is warm not hot so i think i can make is run much cooler.

[timpaatkins]

Too bad Coolsense isnt avaliable on the DV7.

[len888]

Actually it does shares the same fan and your idea is perfectly right but there is something I wanna let you know. The GPU is on a different pipeline than the CPU and it is actually closer to the fan than the CPU is to the fan. Second you guys have got to stop making your CPU do soo much work since no game uses a cpu much at all it's all strain on the GPU(So like his idea is keeping your cpu running coolest as possible so gpu gets good cooling) so don't worry about throttling. Moreover you guys are getting 85s with coolsense on coolest?? and 95s with it off? You guys are pushing the thermal limit. I thought my paste was bad and mine doesn't go above 75 in gta playing for 1+hr and the gpu is more like 72C. I'm wondering if i redo my paste if I can get the temps down to how one of my cores is running(It's running 36s at idle while the others run 42-45) BTW how long does it take for your temps to go back down to 50s after stopping a game... mine takes long and the air is warm not hot so i think i can make is run much cooler.

my gpu is getting maxed at 81c (during hardcore gaming, with coolest mode on) and 85c maxed furmark 15mins when full performance on coolsense.
during gaming never ever exceed 74c
your laptop cooling system is pretty good, you should try to repaste your cpu and gpu thermal paste + laptop cooler and viola! thats all you need to do for now.

by the way do you guys know how to run coolsense coolest setting at all time? (especially every time when windows starts)

[Wave Fusion]

The GPU is on a different pipeline than the CPU and it is actually closer to the fan than the CPU is to the fan.

BTW how long does it take for your temps to go back down to 50s after stopping a game... mine takes long and the air is warm not hot so i think i can make is run much cooler.

Are you sure about the GPU having a separate cooling unit?
This was always my biggest design complaint about notebooks.
I haven't poked around inside yet, but I'd be very happy if it were true.

Second, it is about 76 F ambient temp and my processor is idling at 45-47 C.
It is significantly warmer than my old 13.1 in dual-core notebook would idle, but the greater number of metallic surfaces dissipate the heat much better.

Running Cinebench R11.5 bumps things to an average of 73 C w/o turbo boost. 30 secs after finishing rather quickly things have settled back to 49 C.
This is with fan speeds on default (auto)

The GPU should have been idle but its temps increased evenly with the CPU.
This is why I suspect they share the same copper pipeline.
Hot air alone wouldn't cook the GPU so quickly. The CPU and GPU must both be attached to something highly conductive.

It's true that doubling a CPU's output doesn't affect frame rate the same way doubling GPU output does. Once a game's CPU needs are met, anything more is largely irrelevant.

In a properly designed system even running full power shouldn't require "throttling" or a 'cool down' phase. Turbo boost/overclocking really throws a wrench into that perfect formula.

In all honesty I believe turbo boost was only intended to improve performance while a system is below its maximum healthy operating temperature. Using it all the time is the same as plugging a 85W processor into a system with only enough cooling to dissipate 70W of heat (for the whole system, CPU + GPU + Misc.)

Overheating while simultaneously OCing and TBing is the same as a tire flying off one's car on account of driving downhill 30MPH over the vehicle's top speed. You guys are driving the wheels off these things!

[DV6T--]

Are you sure about the GPU having a separate cooling unit?
This was always my biggest design complaint about notebooks.
I haven't poked around inside yet, but I'd be very happy if it were true.

Second, it is about 76 F ambient temp and my processor is idling at 45-47 C.
It is significantly warmer than my old 13.1 in dual-core notebook would idle, but the greater number of metallic surfaces dissipate the heat much better.

Running Cinebench R11.5 bumps things to an average of 73 C w/o turbo boost. 30 secs after finishing rather quickly things have settled back to 49 C.
This is with fan speeds on default (auto)

The GPU should have been idle but its temps increased evenly with the CPU.
This is why I suspect they share the same copper pipeline.
Hot air alone wouldn't cook the GPU so quickly. The CPU and GPU must both be attached to something highly conductive.

It's true that doubling a CPU's output doesn't affect frame rate the same way doubling GPU output does. Once a game's CPU needs are met, anything more is largely irrelevant.

In a properly designed system even running full power shouldn't require "throttling" or a 'cool down' phase. Turbo boost/overclocking really throws a wrench into that perfect formula.

In all honesty I believe turbo boost was only intended to improve performance while a system is below its maximum healthy operating temperature. Using it all the time is the same as plugging a 85W processor into a system with only enough cooling to dissipate 70W of heat (for the whole system, CPU + GPU + Misc.)

Overheating while simultaneously OCing and TBing is the same as a tire flying off one's car on account of driving downhill 30MPH over the vehicle's top speed. You guys are driving the wheels off these things!

Not exactly a separate cooling unit just a dedicated pipeline. I haven't opened my computer yet either but when you look at the diagrams there are 2 separate pipelines for just the processor and then one pipe line to the GPU but the computer has two heatsinks. One copper pipe from the CPU goes the the back heatsink(The vents at back of laptop) and the copper pipe from the GPU and the second CPU pipe goes the the heatsink on the left side vents of the laptop. These stay so much cooler than my older DV4 but i would have liked it better if it had two fans but it's not running much warmer than alienware laptops. Plus i got my laptop for 600 taxes and everything soo i'm happy. BTW do you guys think i should send my laptop back for that core that is running 35C? Or is it a bad thermal job?

[len888]

Not exactly a separate cooling unit just a dedicated pipeline. I haven't opened my computer yet either but when you look at the diagrams there are 2 separate pipelines for just the processor and then one pipe line to the GPU but the computer has two heatsinks. One copper pipe from the CPU goes the the back heatsink(The vents at back of laptop) and the copper pipe from the GPU and the second CPU pipe goes the the heatsink on the left side vents of the laptop. These stay so much cooler than my older DV4 but i would have liked it better if it had two fans but it's not running much warmer than alienware laptops. Plus i got my laptop for 600 taxes and everything soo i'm happy. BTW do you guys think i should send my laptop back for that core that is running 35C? Or is it a bad thermal job?

you should try to open up the laptop and repaste the thermal paste.
It should be fixing that problem.

[YariiThinkpad]

So just got my DV6Tqe yesterday. I have the 1gb 6770, changed the bios to fixed and updated the software through hps website. I have the graphics set to high performance, coolsense at its coolest. I am getting 11 frames in Mass Effect 2. Not sure what is going on. Making me a little nervous really. Updated the game as well.

Ideas please?

[DV6T--]

So just got my DV6Tqe yesterday. I have the 1gb 6770, changed the bios to fixed and updated the software through hps website. I have the graphics set to high performance, coolsense at its coolest. I am getting 11 frames in Mass Effect 2. Not sure what is going on. Making me a little nervous really. Updated the game as well.

Ideas please?

Did you switch to high performance GPU? Right click on desktop and click configure switchable graphics and check if it's on High performance GPU.

[dwalk1989]

Too bad Coolsense isnt avaliable on the DV7.

my dv7 has coolsense

[lebob23]

holy crap these things are low priced. It makes me sad that I paid the same much for 720qm 4gb and gt 230m when it first came out, but I returned it due to shoddy build quality and since they asked for $130 for an extra year on the warranty instead I picked the weaker notebook in my sig and its been doing great. It just isn't very good at playing games and people ask me why its so big and square ?