Envy 14 radiance screen vs Envy 15 IPS display comparison anyone?

[timjuliani]

Originally Posted by lowkey9

See above.

Colors can be corrected, vertical gamma shift inherent to TN panels cannot.

If you kindly just tell all of the folks who are either living with or returned the Envy 15 with the IPS because of the orange reds (and the Sony SE owners for that matter) how to correct the colors, I'm sure we would all be thrilled.

[redsvt95]

Originally Posted by timjuliani

If you kindly just tell all of the folks who are either living with or returned the Envy 15 with the IPS because of the orange reds (and the Sony SE owners for that matter) how to correct the colors, I'm sure we would all be thrilled.

I love when people jump into a thread and start spewing BS. It's obvious that lowkey doesn't know what he's talking about and he hasn't been following the multiple threads discussing the Envy 15's screen.

[timjuliani]

Originally Posted by redsvt95

I love when people jump into a thread and start spewing BS. It's obvious that lowkey doesn't know what he's talking about and he hasn't been following the multiple threads discussing the Envy 15's screen.

You'd think he was trolling, but that was a complicated troll. Maybe just a lot of spare time.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by timjuliani

You'd think he was trolling, but that was a complicated troll.

INCEPTION.

I'd like him to compare my notebook's AUO to the 15's IPS.

The stereotype that TNs are automatically inferior isn't backed up by history.

[lowkey9]

Originally Posted by timjuliani

If you kindly just tell all of the folks who are either living with or returned the Envy 15 with the IPS because of the orange reds (and the Sony SE owners for that matter) how to correct the colors, I'm sure we would all be thrilled.

I'm aware of the issue w/the Envy 15, but it's nothing compared to gamma shift that cannot be fixed no matter what. Color gamut (or lack thereof) is generally a function of panel backlighting and not the panel itself, and yes whoever is manufacturing the panel screwed up (LG, maybe?), but it's nothing that cannot be fixed in manufacturing from this point on.

I think it's interesting that people who generally will never consider using a hardware calibrator on their display are all of a sudden worried about accurate colors, especially when some of the "better" TN's mentioned here are wide gamut, forcing oversaturated colors in many applications seeing as windows isn't universally color-aware.

[timjuliani]

Originally Posted by lowkey9

I'm aware of the issue w/the Envy 15, but it's nothing compared to gamma shift that cannot be fixed no matter what. Color gamut (or lack thereof) is generally a function of panel backlighting and not the panel itself, and yes whoever is manufacturing the panel screwed up (LG, maybe?), but it's nothing that cannot be fixed in manufacturing from this point on.

I think it's interesting that people who generally will never consider using a hardware calibrator on their display are all of a sudden worried about accurate colors, especially when some of the "better" TN's mentioned here are wide gamut, forcing oversaturated colors in many applications seeing as windows isn't universally color-aware.

I think it's interesting that you've come in here and started spouting this line of thought for some reason.

[Lvivkse]

Originally Posted by lowkey9

See above.

Colors can be corrected

Nope. Nope. No.

Originally Posted by lowkey9

but it's nothing that cannot be fixed in manufacturing from this point on.

lol, well isn't that convenient.

and if it's never corrected? will your response be "well, it could have, but they just didn't wanna"?

[Kevin]

HP is already sitting on a stockpile of these flawed screens. There only recourse is to bury them in the desert and order higher quality ones, or continue on like nothing is wrong.

I see them attempting to sell as many as possible, while they begin manufacturer machines with improved screens in them. A silent update, perhaps?

[lowkey9]

Originally Posted by Lvivkse

Nope. Nope. No.




lol, well isn't that convenient.

and if it's never corrected? will your response be "well, it could have, but they just didn't wanna"?

I already mentioned to you how colors can be fixed on any IPS panel display--gamut is a function of backlight, it is a manufacturing issue and not an issue with the panel tech itself, which is superior in nearly every way possible.

Originally Posted by Kevin

HP is already sitting on a stockpile of these flawed screens. There only recourse is to bury them in the desert and order higher quality ones, or continue on like nothing is wrong.

I see them attempting to sell as many as possible, while they begin manufacturer machines with improved screens in them. A silent update, perhaps?

I don't know, it's not something they seem to be able to sweep under the rug at this point as the color issues were even mentioned in the recent Engadget review.

[timjuliani]

Originally Posted by lowkey9

I already mentioned to you how colors can be fixed on any IPS panel display--gamut is a function of backlight, it is a manufacturing issue and not an issue with the panel tech itself, which is superior in nearly every way possible.

If what you say is true, and it very well may be (though by manufacturing issue I assume you mean the choice of backlight used, not a manufacturing error), it is in practice irrelevant if the implementation of the panel is flawed, as it is in the 15 and the Sony SE. When you just say a blanket "all IPS screens are better", one would assume you mean in practice, which is really all that matters in a purchasing decision. In other words, if you were giving advice to a buyer, which you appear to be doing above, you would say an IPS laptop is always better than a TN with regard to color, which is just simply not true in terms of implementation.