*HP ENVY 17 & 17 3D (2XXX series) Owners Lounge*

[slotti]

So I just dropped my Crucial C300 in. 1st thing to do is update the firmware...BUT...I can only update firmware in IDE or legacy mode. Does not work in AHCI. How do I force that stupid thing into IDE mode. Anybody any idea?

[new_vaio_F]

Cool. Are all your special function keys still working properly? Such as brightness, etc...

KJ

Yeap! All works. Its as good as HP driver.

[Killa Joe]

Yeap! All works. Its as good as HP driver.

Excellent! I am looking forward to hearing from others who upgrade in the same manner as you.

KJ

[mcchea]

Yeap! All works. Its as good as HP driver.

I'm assuming you're saying that your brightness keys work on your Envy 14. I haven't heard from anyone (including myself) of them working on the Envy 17 3D SB with the new 11.4 drivers.

[Bobmitch]

So I just dropped my Crucial C300 in. 1st thing to do is update the firmware...BUT...I can only update firmware in IDE or legacy mode. Does not work in AHCI. How do I force that stupid thing into IDE mode. Anybody any idea?

I did some research on this. You may not like the answer. I want to do the same with my Intel...but can't hooked up to the Envy as is.

1. Put the SSD in another machine...hooked up properly and flash that way

2. Put the SSD in a USB 2.0 or eSATA enclosure and let the firmware flasher detect it in there...flash and then install in the Envy. That is why I haven't updated the firmware on my Intel.

You are doing a clean install...it might be worth the trouble at that point. You don't have any data to risk

[new_vaio_F]

I'm assuming you're saying that your brightness keys work on your Envy 14. I haven't heard from anyone (including myself) of them working on the Envy 17 3D SB with the new 11.4 drivers.

Coz I just post the link like few minutes ago...no one tried yet on their E17 SB. I did tried it on my E14, if it works on E14, MOST LIKELY it works on E17 SB, same kind of concept. Different silicon and transistor count.

[Bobmitch]

for all those who have issue installing 11.4 Catalyst, download it over here

http://www2.ati.com/DRIVERS/mobile/1...dd_ccc_ocl.exe

Its the mobility version, installed fine one my E14.

These are the exact same drivers I posted from guru3d.com last week. They did break my brightness hot button...but they do install well...on my system they wouldn't install Catalyst Contol Center...so I use the one from the HP drivers. Did a custom and chose everything but CCC...they work fine. Some people claim that they regained brightness hotkey by installing the new HP Software framework...didn't do anything for me...

Good drivers, nonetheless

[fiver5]

OK...you want Coolsense...find it here:

C:\Program Files (X86)\Hewlett Packard\Support Framework\Resources\HP Thermal Assistant\HPThermalAssistant.exe

Figure out how to shut it off and you will be less prone to throttling

There are tons of mentions of it in the system registry. One main way to get rid of it is to uninstall Support framework. OR...what if you change the name of the executable????

As best I can tell that executable only sets the coolsense level, if you were to delete or rename it I'd make a bet that coolsense is still active -- or at least will remain in the same state/setting as it was before you whacked it.

Probably that executable is touching something in BIOS/ACPI or changing some parameters used by the kernel mode thermal controls.

While not very comprehensive a quick process explorer search for "thermal" and "coolsense" yields nothing. If that executable or it's sister DLL were running on the system or otherwise loaded into memory, process explorer would have certainly revealed it.

Those of you having throttling issues might want to check in the kernel-power\kernel-thermal section of your event logs. Mine is pretty much empty, however when I switch to "coolest" mode I get an informational message that the system has switched to passive cooling, and when I switch to "performance" I get a message that the system has disengaged passive cooling.

If you have a bunch of warnings or errors in there, or if you don't get the informational message when you switch modes, it could mean something is wrong and help get this figured out.

The more I look at this the more I think the software side of coolsense is nothing other than a toggle switch for built in Win7/Intel/ACPI cooling functionality that HP gave a fancy name to. Just a working theory though so far

[slotti]

I did some research on this. You may not like the answer. I want to do the same with my Intel...but can't hooked up to the Envy as is.

1. Put the SSD in another machine...hooked up properly and flash that way

2. Put the SSD in a USB 2.0 or eSATA enclosure and let the firmware flasher detect it in there...flash and then install in the Envy. That is why I haven't updated the firmware on my Intel.

You are doing a clean install...it might be worth the trouble at that point. You don't have any data to risk

Yeap, seems that once again HP is screwing with us.
I don't have another Sata computer at home, so the firmware update will have to wait till I can plug it into the desktop at work. Really no time for that right now, so I'll stick with the current firmware and see how it runs for now.
Really want to get this baby to work

[fiver5]

Some people claim that they regained brightness hotkey by installing the new HP Software framework...didn't do anything for me...

Good drivers, nonetheless

I'm the one who made that claim and then I later edited my post to say that I was wrong but maybe I didn't say I was wrong in the right way

HP support assistant reverted my graphics driver to the old version when it decided to re-install the HP software framework. I was never prompted about this or selected it as an option, it just happened. I rebooted and banged on my hotkeys which worked, yay! Then I did some more investigation and saw that I was running stock drivers. Why HP support assistant decided I needed to update framework in the first place is a mystery because I was already on the latest version

So sorry about that confusion I wasn't even drinking that night. Maybe just tired and stupid.