*HP ENVY 17 & 17 3D (2XXX series) Owners Lounge*

[Crimsoned]

Alrighty! I am done with some real world testing.
2 hours of gaming (boy sure feels good to get a hard work's day in XD)
and 20 minutes of video rendering I can safely say whatever happened with furmark/prime95 may be strange, however throttling does NOT seem to affect this Envy 17 SB 3D I received much.

There is some slight throttling, however it is very slight.

So I am glad finally I got a serviceable laptop, it will likely go to the market at a decent price. 2 years warranty+accidental protection to boot!

[new_vaio_F]

I LOVE my Envy and it isn't even perfect (kinda like my husband The screen is one of the best I have had - I don't think you are going to have issues with a sweet spot with this one. The main complaint I have is the calibration is atrocious. I do photography and don't have good tolerance for it not being true to life, so I'm just going to need to get a calibration tool for it and it will be a pleasure to work with after that I am sure. For a typical user, just tweaking the settings to get it a little less blue will probably be good enough. I have noticed a bit of a difference between the two video cards as well - I'm having an easier time with the colors on the Intel on battery power than when using the AMD when it is plugged in oddly enough - but again, I'm sure nothing a calibration tool can't mediate for me.

If you somehow get the screen calibrated, please share the ICC profile. Fiver post her ICC profile, however I didnt see any changes after applying it.

Am I the only one who cannot use the Aero glassy transparency for their Envy's? It's weird because my laptop says my system reached it requirement so why can I not get it?

This machine have more power then you might think to run windows aero. Google it how to enable aero, try right click your desktop, personalize.

I'm having HP to cross ship another E17 3D, they charged my credit card again for the replacement but did offer $50 credit for the inconvenience. We'll see how it goes. They neglect they have 1600mhz RAM option.

[Bobmitch]

So, I'm a little perplexed. I ran Prime95 and I get about 2.5Ghz more or less across all four cores and it keeps them right around 90 degrees. Never drops below about 2.2 - primarily stays at 2.5. As soon as I turn on Furmark it instantly throttles to 798 on all four cores - the core temps drop into the 60s - but they stay at 798 like they are pegged. I stop Furmark and everything behaves as before - hovering around 2.5 and close to or at 90 degrees.

Are you guys interpreting this as the "bad" kind of throttling? I can see if I was a gamer how this would cause me to drop frames or possibly have a bad gaming experience - I don't know if it really effects what I do on a day to day basis though (business apps plus photoshop CS5). I haven't tried to watch a full 3D movie yet to see if it behaves like this...would you anticipate that it would?

So basically what is happening is that throttling seems to happen when you push the GPU, not the CPU. Perhaps it is heat related to the video card. When Coolsense senses temps on both the CPU and GPU increasing...Could this be what is causing the throttling????

[ljc0810]

So basically what is happening is that throttling seems to happen when you push the GPU, not the CPU. Perhaps it is heat related to the video card. When Coolsense senses temps on both the CPU and GPU increasing...Could this be what is causing the throttling????

So I did it the other way around (ran Furmark then Prime), same thing happened, when only Furmark was running, CPU was at full speed then once I started Prime, the throttling started right away ...

[Bobmitch]

OK...you want Coolsense...find it here:

C:\Program Files (X86)\Hewlett Packard\Support Framework\Resources\HP Thermal Assistant\HPThermalAssistant.exe

Figure out how to shut it off and you will be less prone to throttling

There are tons of mentions of it in the system registry. One main way to get rid of it is to uninstall Support framework. OR...what if you change the name of the executable????

[Bobmitch]

So I did it the other way around (ran Furmark then Prime), same thing happened, when only Furmark was running, CPU was at full speed then once I started Prime, the throttling started right away ...

I think it's the combination of both that creates heat from CPU and GPU. When I ran prime and the CPU reached 88 / 89...the GPU was still in the 60's. Then you add the Futuremark on top...and you get both HOT...Coolsense is there to control things and keep thermals within a range...no matter what...

[ljc0810]

I think it's the combination of both that creates heat from CPU and GPU. When I ran prime and the CPU reached 88 / 89...the GPU was still in the 60's. Then you add the Futuremark on top...and you get both HOT...Coolsense is there to control things and keep thermals within a range...no matter what...

I think you are right, besides, the way that I am using my Envy right now I don't see the effect of the throttling I just noticed it when I ran Prime and Furmark. Maybe in real world use the throttling won't affect the Envy that much ?

[new_vaio_F]

for all those who have issue installing 11.4 Catalyst, download it over here

http://www2.ati.com/DRIVERS/mobile/1...dd_ccc_ocl.exe

Its the mobility version, installed fine one my E14.

[Killa Joe]

I think you are right, besides, the way that I am using my Envy right now I don't see the effect of the throttling I just noticed it when I ran Prime and Furmark. Maybe in real world use the throttling won't affect the Envy that much ?

Funny, I was just about to post that myself. I wrote more to this, but just decided to delete....I think you've said it all. Real world users who surf, IM, chat, video, play games, and so forth, not all at the same time....I don't forsee any major issues. Now, of course if it throttles with those basic tasks, then yes, there is a problem. Otherwise....life goes on, and those who use the Envy in such regards shall be rewarded with one crazy nice laptop.

Alienware who?

KJ

[Killa Joe]

for all those who have issue installing 11.4 Catalyst, download it over here

http://www2.ati.com/DRIVERS/mobile/1...dd_ccc_ocl.exe

Its the mobility version, installed fine one my E14.

Cool. Are all your special function keys still working properly? Such as brightness, etc...

KJ