*HP HDX 9000 DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 2*

[RickiBerlin]

@jamescchu

Have you ever done the command of Burke!?
See here:

Originally Posted by Burke

"No idea then. You could try Burke's suggestion: http://forum.notebookreview.com/7026790-post1109.html"

I've had several problems with Win7 64 first times I've installed it. I have done it about 5 times since, and I always have do the same thing to make it work:

after installing I go to safe mode and delete the ATI drivers from device manager then select STANDARD VGA GRAPHICS ADAPTER; then I restart normally and run driver sweeper and remove all ATI drivers; after that I install the ATI drivers as mentioned in my previous post; then restart again

The final step is to go to http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-e...ml#post5665765 and get the appropriate SP's

[RickiBerlin]

Originally Posted by aldam

good to know.
BTW I don't use TV tuner at all. So maybe I also remove QBCS.

Yes, then you can remove QCBS. (this is not necessary, and system resources are used by this service barely)
EDIT:I mean, it's not necessary to disable this service. For me it is active.
Alternatively, put it this service in Computer Management to "manual"and leave it in the autorun!
Would you then use it QuickPlayTV, then start the service there!
If you do not start it, your TV tuner in QuickPlay is detected only at the second startup. But then he jumps automatically to analog tuner.
Example:
1. Service is to manually
2. You start QuickPlayTV (where the service will start automatically QBCS while, but too late)
3. The TV tuner is not recognized. EDIT:This also applies to the FM radio tuner.
4. You finish QuickPlay.
5. Now you start QuickPlay again, now is your TV tuner detected. (default analogue TV)

So, do as you please!

Another thing:
If you're doing is a lightweight system, then you can even "HPQuickPlay" remove from the startup. (msconfig/Systemstart)
The only drawback: On your remote control "QuickPlayRun" and "Teletext" not working before starting the program QuickPlay. Direct TV button still works.
QuickPlay is already started all the keys work as usual.
(info for U.S. users. Teletext Keys only model in Europe, U.S. version is the DVD button)

[kindheart]

DIY ViDock x1 using PE4H v2.4 (Jumper: bypass 12V fuse), NVIDIA GTX 260 896MB and 900W ATX PSU on the HP Dragon HDX 9300 series - X9000 @ 3.4 - 4GB RAM








Above 3DMark06 figure has been repeated with PhysX off, PhysX on GTX 260 and PhysX on internal 8800MGTS and has in the three cases been almost the same ~4294
3DMark06 with x2 setup is ~6000
Quite disappointing if you are only looking for raw power (the internal 8800M GTS scores 10500 in 3DMark06 on the same notebook). However, if you want to enable stereoscopic 3D Vision on external 120Hz LCD monitors, it works perfectly well and you can play Blu-ray 3D and display stereo JPS and MPO images, among other things... The internal 8800M GTS CANNOT drive external 3D Vision 120Hz LCD displays as it is limited to 59 and 60Hz modes only!

[Burke]

UPDATE


I've tested my 30D4 with another tested GTS; the result is the same, black screen. I can draw the conclusion that the 30D4 has a corrupted BIOS.
My 30D4 motherboard is NOT RECOVERABLE with the USB floppy drive with 2HD floppies.

I think this deserves a warning on the first page for those with a 30D4 motherboard. It is best to test if the USB floppy recovery method works, before attempting to upgrade the bios.

[nando4]

Originally Posted by kindheart

DIY ViDock x1 using PE4H v2.4 (Jumper: bypass 12V fuse), NVIDIA GTX 260 896MB and 900W ATX PSU on the HP Dragon HDX 9300 series - X9000 @ 3.4 - 4GB RAM
...
Above 3DMark06 figure has been repeated with PhysX off, PhysX on GTX 260 and PhysX on internal 8800MGTS and has in the three cases been almost the same ~4294
3DMark06 with x2 setup is ~6000
Quite disappointing if you are only looking for raw power (the internal 8800M GTS scores 10500 in 3DMark06 on the same notebook). However, if you want to enable stereoscopic 3D Vision on external 120Hz LCD monitors, it works perfectly well and you can play Blu-ray 3D and display stereo JPS and MPO images, among other things... The internal 8800M GTS CANNOT drive external 3D Vision 120Hz LCD displays as it is limited to 59 and 60Hz modes only!

ATI cards will give better performance on a HDX9xxx DIY ViDock

Thank you for posting your results. cpumark database tells me a x9000@3.4 is about the same ~2900pt result as a i5-540M. You'll note on the DIY ViDick first page that NVidia cards do poorly in 3dmark06 *unless* x1.Opt (link compression) engages. NVidia have limited that to only work if it detects a 4500MHD or Intel HD primary video card and a x1 link. No one has cracked the driver yet to unlock this for *ALL* systems, regardless of primary video card or use a x2 link. If the driver allowed it then a GTX460@x2.Opt on your ssytem would put it at the very top of the DIY ViDock performance results.

A HD5770@x2E or HD6850@x2E would see better-than-the 8800M GTS 3dmark06 and overall performance. Can you get one of those to test?

Consider a P8400-2.26@2.4+HD5770@x2E got 3dmark06=11393 here, I'd guestimate you'd be seeing in the 12-14k range on your X9000-3.4.

[DRAGONe]

Originally Posted by Burke

UPDATE

I've tested my 30D4 with another tested GTS; the result is the same, black screen. I can draw the conclusion that the 30D4 has a corrupted BIOS.
My 30D4 motherboard is NOT RECOVERABLE with the USB floppy drive with 2HD floppies.

I think this deserves a warning on the first page for those with a 30D4 motherboard. It is best to test if the USB floppy recovery method works, before attempting to upgrade the bios.

Look, I KNOW 'TECH' is an alien language that is nearly impossible to understand and nearly as difficult to speak, BUT ...

... at this point I only wish I were able to offer help because I can't even determine what you have\haven't tried\done, how\when in what sequence\way\method\process, etc., ad infinitum.

I am not attempting, nor do I desire to start an argument. I just can't read what you've written and not interject ... shooting blindfolded in the dark and hitting a target does not necessarily make a good marksman (especially so when you get unlimited amounts of ammunition and attempts at the broadside of a particularly fragrant barn that's the size of the Ark you are downwind from that is covered top to bottom and from edge to edge with them pointing a sawed off shotgun with one hand and a machine gun in the other at while one person steadies each arm for you as you stand arms length away from it while loud machinery is running inside), but magicians do make things disappear.

I will not go so far as to say you did not test your 30D4 ROM chip, however unless you work in a well equipped computer repair facility or stock a personal one for yourself ... (in either case you wouldn't have posted some of the things you have). You broadly assume way too much; please put the crayons\markers down, and don't run with any scissors - your concluding generally something with so little evidence is not SCIENTIFIC. Your attempted descriptions of your experiences lack accuracy, clarity, details, organization and specificity.

From your earlier posts you have indicated you have flashed successfully previously and were operational with an ATI card - if your machine is operational (not 'bricked') then your BIOS, regardless of which ROM hardware revision your MB has, does not need recovery. The labeling of the heading states, "BIOS RECOVERY PROCEDURE:" - and it's most definitely useful for that - but that is not the sole way to change your system's 'ROM's current 'BIOS' by doing a 'FLASH' 'PROCEDURE'.

DRAGONe HAS A 30D4 ROM CHIP & HAS HAD F40E RUNNING EVER SINCE I GOT IT MORE THAN A YEAR AGO WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS!"

To post a warning on the 1st Page about this is juvenile; what about something much more likely in the Quantum Theory of things possible, don't plug in your power supply it may explode, don't move your Dragon you may drop it, tow a boat at all times there may be a flood, or even you should carry an open umbrella with you covering your head allday, everday because you have a chance of gettin' killed by a raindrop - this dewdrop is not a flood.

There is a very old understanding in computer repair circles; "There are three types of issues with computers - hardware, software and wetware". I know how that guy @ Wordperfect felt when he discovered the building's power was off, but I'm firin' myself!

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!

[2.0™]

Wait a minute then. The computer which Burke has that he can't do a BIOS recovery on which doesn't work with the Nvidia card, works fine with the ATI card installed in it?

I'm lost.

I thought his HDX was dead. No matter if he installed the Nvidia card or ATI card.

Clue me in.

[Burke]

Originally Posted by DRAGONe

Look, I KNOW 'TECH' is an alien language that is nearly impossible to understand and nearly as difficult to speak, BUT ...

... at this point I only wish I were able to offer help because I can't even determine what you have\haven't tried\done, how\when in what sequence\way\method\process, etc., ad infinitum.

I am not attempting, nor do I desire to start an argument. I just can't read what you've written and not interject ... shooting blindfolded in the dark and hitting a target does not necessarily make a good marksman (especially so when you get unlimited amounts of ammunition and attempts at the broadside of a particularly fragrant barn that's the size of the Ark you are downwind from that is covered top to bottom and from edge to edge with them pointing a sawed off shotgun with one hand and a machine gun in the other at while one person steadies each arm for you as you stand arms length away from it while loud machinery is running inside), but magicians do make things disappear.

I will not go so far as to say you did not test your 30D4 ROM chip, however unless you work in a well equipped computer repair facility or stock a personal one for yourself ... (in either case you wouldn't have posted some of the things you have). You broadly assume way too much; please put the crayons\markers down, and don't run with any scissors - your concluding generally something with so little evidence is not SCIENTIFIC. Your attempted descriptions of your experiences lack accuracy, clarity, details, organization and specificity.

From your earlier posts you have indicated you have flashed successfully previously and were operational with an ATI card - if your machine is operational (not 'bricked') then your BIOS, regardless of which ROM hardware revision your MB has, does not need recovery. The labeling of the heading states, "BIOS RECOVERY PROCEDURE:" - and it's mosy definitely useful for that - but that is not the sole way to change your system's 'ROM's current 'BIOS' by doing a 'FLASH' 'PROCEDURE'.

DRAGONe HAS A 30D4 ROM CHIP & HAS HAD F40E RUNNING EVER SINCE I GOT IT MORE THAN A YEAR AGO WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS!"

To post a warning on the 1st Page about this is juvenile; what about something much more likely in the Quantum Theory of things possible, don't plug in your power supply it may explode, don't move your Dragon you may drop it, tow a boat at all times there may be a flood, or even you should carry an open umbrella with you covering your head allday, everday because you have a chance of gettin' killed by a raindrop - this dewdrop is not a flood.

There is a very old understanding in computer repair circles; "There are three types of issues with computers - hardware, software and wetware". I know how that guy @ Wordperfect felt when he discovered the building's power was off, but I'm firin' myself!

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!

Now is that what I've said? I said MY30D4 chip is not recoverable. I did not say all or yours have I?

2.0 has asked the question if anyone has flashed via floppy this specific chip model. Have you?

Originally Posted by DRAGONe

but that is not the sole way to change your system's 'ROM's current 'BIOS' by doing a 'FLASH' 'PROCEDURE'.

What other procedures are there?

If you live in Europe I'll mail you the mobo for free if you want it.

[Burke]

Originally Posted by 2.0

Wait a minute then. The computer which Burke has that he can't do a BIOS recovery on which doesn't work with the Nvidia card, works fine with the ATI card installed in it?

I'm lost.

I thought his HDX was dead. No matter if he installed the Nvidia card or ATI card.

Clue me in.

Yes the mobo after a bios update in windows, doesn't work with the NVIDIA but does boot with ATI

[2.0™]

Originally Posted by Burke

Yes the mobo after a bios update in windows, doesn't work with the NVIDIA but does boot with ATI

OK. Strange that. There might be something that can be done then other than the BIOS recovery method to get you sorted out. Especially since you tried it with a Nvidia card known to work.

I'll look into it a bit more. No promises though.

Would love to see you get sorted out.