*HP ENVY 14 & Envy 14 Beats (1XXX series) Owners Lounge, Part Deux*

[2.0™]

Envy 14 slide show: HP ENVY 14

Envy 14 dimensions: 9.3 x 14 x 1.1 inches ; 14.5" Screen; 5.2 pounds


*THREAD RULES*: (Be sure to read) http://forum.notebookreview.com/6460481-post5729.html

ANCILLARY ENVY 14 THREADS: New owners and/or new posters to the forum, before you start a new thread, see the following 2 threads: ENVY 14: *Quick Question or Troubleshooting Thread for Owners and Propective Owners.* and Envy 14: New owners in Paradise Lost Thread: (Got Problems/Questions/Issues?) POLL and FEEDBACK THREAD: (Owners please vote.) ***POLL: What is the Quality Condition of your new Envy 14?*** Envy 14 Battery Life Log Envy 14 fan noise ENVY 14: Boot Time LOG ***ENVY 14 Gaming Lounge*** Possible to remap E14 action keys? Envy 14 webcam problems Owners and prospective owners should view the following thread: HP ENVY 14 - GPU Clock and Undervoltage POLL *Quasi-Official ENVY 14 discounts, delays, "mine is shipping" lounge* Backpacks/Cases/Sleeves for ENVY 14 Thread! Envy 14 & Linux Envy 14 - UK Thread HP ENVY 14 vs. Alienware m11x HP ENVY 14 vs. Macbook Pro 13 for music production?

F.A.Q.: By poster - Htwingnut

CPU - that's the toughest because it all depends on what you want to do with your PC but here's my summary:

i3 - dual core, multithreaded, integrated GPU, no Turbo Boost. Ok for basic desktop tasks like web browsing, flash, MS Office, and some gaming.
i5 - dual core, multithreaded, integrated GPU, Turbo Boost. i5-430 and 450 are similiar CPUs but the 450 is newer and has slightly faster clock speed. Performance between the two in general is probably less than 10%. i5-520m offers some additional instructions for hardware virtualization and AES encryption which just aid in processing more quickly with a few other benefits
i7 - quad core, multithreaded, no integrated GPU, Turbo Boost - Quad core is powerful, capable of processing eight threads simultaneously, clock speeds generally slower than an i5, but have advantage of processing more threads. No integrated GPU means less battery life because it will be using the dedicated GPU all the time. Most likely 50% less battery life.

Screen - 1366 x 768 brightview or 1600x900 Radiance. The radiance is top of class.

Note: Amazon is selling the HP ENVY 14-1010NR (WQ784UA#ABA) = 1366 x 768. Non-Radiance display.

Hard Drive / SSD - Hard Drives = cheap, effective storage while adding noise, vibration, and heat. SSD = expensive, fast storage, with no vibration or noise with minimal heat and power consumption. SSD speed is superior to HDDs in two respects; they write 3 to 5 times faster and have seek times that are hundreds of times faster then a HDD. Current gen SSD's have a long life, probably much longer than you'd ever keep your laptop unless you do constant large read/writes to it 24/7.

TYPE OF SSD USED IN THE ENVY 14:
160GB = Intel X-25M G2 (Trim supported)
256GB = Samsung MMDOE56G5MXP-0VB (Trim supported on some. HP shipping also firmware that doesn't support Trim.

12.5mm Height HDDs will NOT fit in the Envy 14. Even though the service manual says they will. A poster reported that a Samsung 1TB 12.5MM HDD did NOT fit.

See thread: 1TB HD Install on Envy 14

Memory = 4GB is sufficient for most. Two sticks is fine. You can get up to a negligible 5% performance benefit running dual channel, or two sticks of the same size and speed, as opposed to single stick. But a single stick gives the benefit of just popping in an additional RAM stick later. Otherwise, if you know you'll want 8GB later then maybe go with single 4GB.

Though, you are best to match RAM sticks as mix-match of RAM manufacturers can lead to problems.

So if you don't want to take that chance and you know you'll need more than 4GB, you may want to get it configured with 6GB or 8GB.

RAM SPECS:
1066mhz (if you have i3 or i5 CPU] or 1333 mhz (i7 CPU)

A note about RAM usage: There are not many programs that will use up the sum of 4GB. Requiring more than 4GB is reserved for multitasking of powerful programs or for multitasking very many programs at once. Adobe suite products come to mind and well as some A/V production suite programs.

Battery - The slice battery is apparently the "6 cell" battery they offer for $200 at the moment. It basically form fits the entire bottom of the laptop and is thin and gives up to an extra 100% or perhaps more battery life. No need to swap batteries as it works "smartly" with the built in 8 cell battery (59whr, 12.6 oz). Do a search at images.google.com for "envy slice battery" to see what it looks like. The trade off is that the slice adds weight (1lbs 15oz) and depth (14" x 9" x .5").

Preliminary Battery Runtime Results: (without Slice battery installed) (As executed by Stefan HT) Suggested insertion: jfk33

- WLAN = ON
- Display brightness 60%
- standby at 10%: disabled

Result: 4:10 hours

See Battery Life Log thread for posters with runtimes of 4:40 and 7hours.

Wifi - Important note (submitted by poster e14) - On the German preconfigured model 1010eg, the wifi card is Broadcom and not Intel as HP has advertised. The US version is Intel as specified (Centrino advanced N 6200).

FAN- The unit is set by default to run the fans at all times and at low speed at idle and during normal tasks. It can be disabled in BIOS. Though some users report that disabling it results in fans coming on every few seconds at medium.

Comparative of Intel CPU options [i3-i5]: (Thanks to poster "Curse the sky")
Compare Intel® Products

Comparative of Intel CPU options [i7 quad cores]:
Compare Intel® Products,

IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT CPU THROTTLING ON BATTERY IN THE ENVY 14: - submitted by poster Aleckazee

The processor is able to run at full speed when on battery not like on the Envy 15 where it would be limited to 1.2GHz.

Proof: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6421176-post2308.html scroll down and you will see it.

NOTE ABOUT i7 Processors: They do not allow for switchable graphics. Only dedicated. Therefore a unit outfitted with an i7 processor will consume more power and shorten battery life.

NOTE ABOUT i3-370M Processor: (Contributed by Bronsky and Protiod) Unlike the i5 and i7, the i3's thermal maximum is 90 DegC (unlike 105 for i5/i7). Real world use would not see temps reach that high. But during CPU stressing, it can.

Intel® Core? i3-370M Processor (3M cache, 2.40 GHz) with SPEC Code(s) SLBUK - see i3 when not soldered (in a socket).

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-o...ml#post6452787 - discussion of i3 temp max.

Potential CPU WHINE Fix: (If you experience this anomaly, try one or both of the following) Turn Bluetooth off. Turn the mic(s) off. See here for a guide: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6347979-post1478.html CPU Whine information and test procedure - by poster M.to.walker http://forum.notebookreview.com/6492940-post8941.html JJB's SSD tweak also helped some that have whine and an SSD. http://forum.notebookreview.com/hard...jjb-tweak.html

Warning: Do not touch MSCONFIG processor settings! If you touch the #of processor settings in MSCONFIG/boot/advanced options you will get false # of Core/Thread readings in CPU-Z. It will also lock your processor at one core and it will run at max speed.

Discussion of SSDs: by poster "Curse the Sky"

http://forum.notebookreview.com/6407652-post1159.html

Today's solid-state drives: The value perspective - The Tech Report - Page 1 submitted by poster dirtymaf

A few general tips for those getting an SSD and want to eek out a few more free GB, plus how to setup - by poster HTwingnut.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/6454980-post6010.html

Slice Battery Info:

HP Envy Slim Fit Extended-Life Notebook Battery 6 Cell, 62Whr that weighs 1 pound 15 oz. Dim. 14" x 9" x .5" Part number: 602410-001
(The standard main internal battery: 8cell, 59whr, 12.6 oz).

Picture of Slice and confirmation of its weight - by poster alaskajoel:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...l/P1000633.jpg

A short video review showing slice battery:
YouTube - HP Envy 14

Touch Pad Information: Submitted by poster e14

The user manual of the Envy 14 shows that the touchpad is NOT the new buttonless/hingeless 4-point synaptics hardware, its the same old clickpad from previous envies that has a hinge and 2 physical buttons.

Example of what the new type of Synaptics touchpad can be seen here for comparison: Synaptics Introduces Four-Finger Multi-Touch and MacBook Style TouchPads - Laptop News - TrustedReviews

USER AND SERVICE MANUAL: User manual (uploaded by erathostenes): en-US_manual_595071-001a.pdf - HP Envy 14 Manual - BADONGO HP Notebook Reference Guide: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02178460.pdf Service/Maintenance Manual (thanks to poster wall of voodoo): http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02508020.pdf

OWNER CONTRIBUTIONS: Unboxing Pictures: - by poster erathostenes Picasa-Webalben - Jonathan Meyer - Envy 14 -by poster aclbosox Picasa Web Albums - Andrew Loomis - HP Envy 14 -by poster magusdraco HP ENVY 14 UNBOXING + FIRST IMPRESSIONS [NEW][UPDATED] | waffleTech -by poster Tornbacchus Picasa Web Albums - 10195610063071233... - Envy 14 Pictures Video by poster fatskiratski - YouTube - Unboxing of the HP Envy 14 Video by poster hellfire88 YouTube - HP Envy 14 Unboxing Unboxing of BEATS edition - by poster wynand32 YouTube - HP Envy 14 Beats Edition Unboxing REVIEWS: OFFICIAL REVIEWS: HP ENVY 14 Review HP ENVY 14 Review - SlashGear - contributed by poster swg1251 HP Envy 14 review -- Engadget - contributed by TOYSTER17 and asdad123 HP Envy 14 Review - A Review of the HP Envy 14 - contributed by poster jsanjose HP Envy 14 Review & Rating | PCMag.com - contributed by poster hp_dv2000_t Page Not Found: Computer Shopper contributed by markik and nu_D Review HP Envy 14-1010eg Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews - contributed by Thanatos 82 USER REVIEWS: Review in progress (compilation of impressions, benchmarks and photos by posters erathostenes, StefanHT and ademmer): http://forum.notebookreview.com/6421176-post2308.html FIRST LOOK VIDEO: by erathostenes YouTube - HP Envy 14 - a first look. A short video review showing slice battery: YouTube - HP Envy 14 Review blog - submitted by poster DV_2000_t The HP Envy 14 – a solid laptop by anyone’s standards | Geek with Laptop User review - by poster dannybht http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-e...ml#post6479446 Pics: Picasa Web Albums - danny tran - envy 14 Hands on user review/Blog entry by poster TornBacchus Full HP Envy Review + Hands On | waffleTech More comprehensive review (With pics, benches, comparisons) by Tornbacchus -HP Envy 14 Review (Pictures, Benchmarks, Comparisons) User Review - by poster Butr0sButr0s http://forum.notebookreview.com/6485031-post8029.html User Review - poster wracky HP Envy 14 Review wracky.net User review w/Linux- poster xfocus HP Envy 14 – A Love Story | B to the Log Excellent video review/Initial impressions by poster hellfire88 YouTube - HP Envy 14 Initial Impressions Video of Keyboard Flex - by poster thanatos82 YouTube - Envy 14 keyboard flex! and YouTube - Envy 14 Keyboard Flex 2 Whole keyboard with flex - posted by dphino - YouTube - Keyboard Flexing Envy 14 IMPORTANT NOTE: It appears that a fair number of owners are reporting CPU whine. Varies from subtle high pitched whir to annoyingly loud whine. While others report no whine at all. YMMV

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*THREAD RULES*: (Be sure to read) http://forum.notebookreview.com/6460481-post5729.html

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Special student phone in price adjustment for Win7 Pro heads up contributed by ChemE

If you are a student you can call HP and let them know that Microsoft is offering Windows 7 Professional for $29.99.
They should credit you the difference of ~$90 if you purchased it as CTO or offer it to you at this price if you are in the process of configuring.

You will need to direct them to one of the following websites as proof:

Microsoft Student - Windows 7
Microsoft Student - all the best Microsoft student discounts, programs, and products

GUIDES, DRIVERS, SOFTWARE: HP Laptop out of the box GUIDE Link suggested by DrPterodactyl Want to know what to do when you get you Envy? NOTE: Windows 7 product code is located inside, under the battery. 1. How to do a clean install? What bloatware is included or needs to/can be removed? http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-c...ndows-7-a.html Win7 Clean install tutorial (step by step)- Clean Install Windows 7 - How to Perform a Clean Installation of Windows 7 - Part 1 of 3 - submitted by donut3 Free Windows 7 legal download links: LEGAL Windows 7 Download Links (Just like Vista before!!!) NOTE: You can only use the same version as the one that came with your notebook 2. How to setup the touch pad - Configuration by JJB http://forum.notebookreview.com/6468855-post6307.html Addedndum for latest driver: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6503991-post9970.html Trackpad and hands interfere with each other significantly and PalmCheck isn't perfect while you're typing. Solved with TouchFreeze: TouchFreeze-1.0.2.msi - Project Hosting on Google Code - submitted by poster ColdHeat TouchFreeze-1.0.2.msi - touchfreeze - TouchFreeze-1.0.2.msi - Project Hosting on Google Code Still the problem of right clicking? Solved by using Two Finger Scroll: Project Hosting on Google Code - submitted by poster ColdHeat two-finger-scroll - Project Hosting on Google Code Best option for the trackpad is a program called EvnyTouchPad by poster Reil: Free File Hosting Made Simple - MediaFire Latest version: http://www.mediafire.com/?tpcynrdlo2oattc You can read about it in this thread: E14 : Trackpad Discussion Only USING THE ENTIRE TOUCHPAD TO CLICK DOWN like on a MACBOOK: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-e...-touchpad.html Note: Need to use your original touchpad drivers that came from HP else it won't work. See this thread also : The definitive guide to the Envy trackpad 3. Website to assist in brightness/contrast adjustment: Contrast - Lagom LCD test 4. Audio Output Tweak - by poster JJB (works with Envy 14): http://forum.notebookreview.com/5668647-post3614.html 5. How to do a MINIMAL Recovery Image Install (alternative to clean install that gets rid of bloatware): By poster hapbeeboy - http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-e...ml#post6590288 6. Need to make a second set of recovery disks? http://forum.notebookreview.com/6595871-post2816.html Drivers Thread and Discussion: by poster justinkw1 Driver Thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-d...-14-intel.html HP's entire Softpaq library FTP directory: (Compliments of 2.0) ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/ Latest ATI Video Driver form on AMD's homepage: http://www.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDHomePage.aspx SSD Setup and tweaks http://forum.notebookreview.com/6454980-post6010.html - by poster Htwingnut. Link also above under SSD discussion. Solution for slow 4K R/W speeds on PM55 chipset - by poster JJB http://forum.notebookreview.com/hard...ml#post6699987 http://forum.notebookreview.com/hard...jjb-tweak.html RECOMMENDED FREE SYSTEM SOFTWARE LIST: BatteryBar - Perhaps the most accurate battery runtime estimator: Osiris Development - BatteryBar, the most accurate battery meter for Windows CPU-Z - processor information and status: CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting HWMonitor - system temperature monitor: CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting GPU-Z - GPU temperature and status monitor: GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility SIW - System information for Windows: SIW | Download Karen's Time Sync - Synchronize computer's clock to one of the many ultra-precise time servers available on the Internet: Karen's Time Sync DPC Latency Checker - tool that analyzes the capabilities of a computer system to handle real-time Audio and video streams properly: DPC Latency Checker Microsoft Security Essentials (anti-virus, malware and spyware protection) : http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ Luxand Blink - Facial recognition and login software: - (submitted by poster ggrayson): Luxand - Blink! - Login to Your PC by Simply Looking at It! Synaptics Scrybe - Gesture workflows. (submitted by poster nrq007) Learn - SYNAPTICS | Scrybe FOR SSD/HDD BENCHMARKING AND DETAILED INFO: AS SSD Benchmark - Alex Intelligent Software - Downloads: AS SSD Benchmark ATTO benchmark - Download ATTO Disk Benchmark v2.34 | techPowerUp HD TUNE - HD Tune website Crystal Disk Info (drive life, Trim support, SMART, etc) - CrystalDiskInfo - Software - Crystal Dew World *POST CLEAN INSTALL - * Missing that volume OSD? Well it's part of MediaSmart. Don't want to use MEDIASMART just for a buggy Volume OSD? Then download 3RVX - thanks to JJB 3RVX: Skinnable Beautiful Volume Indicator For Windows 7 With Envy Skin: 3rvx25 and envy skin.zip or 3rvx25_and_envy_skin.zip To uninstall the original on screen volume display, uninstall HP mediasmart smartmenu or Quickplay software. Can't get the Realtek Ethernet driver to install? Plug in ethernet cable that's connected to a network or computer. Try to install, let it fail(it will), then put the computer to sleep. Then wake it and it will finish installing correctly. Solution discovered by poster MagusDraco. Like the HP Stardock? Meh. Here's one better: ROCKETDOCK - About RocketDock - RocketDock.com Wifi Light stays blue? In SWSetup folder - find and install HPQL, reboot. Forgot to backup swsetup folder? Here's the HPQL uploaded by Magusdraco: HPQL.zip Mute light not changing color? Install IDT High Definition Audio driver. See Justin's driver thread or HP driver downloads for it. Trouble updating BIOS? - discovered by shoalinX -Download .7z file (http://sites.google.com/site/androidfilez/SP49493.7z). This has a modified Config file. 1.Download the bios sp file 2.extract the sp file to a folder(normally goes to C:\SWSetup\SP49999\) 3.extract the winflash file using 7zip. 4. open the config file labeled "platform.ini" 4a. find [ForceFlash] and All=0. change All=1. save and close 5. run InsydeFlash HP tools partition is NOT required. Updating ATI Video Driver? You need to install HP's ATI graphics drivers first, then you can install ATI latest over it. This is because the HP driver has what is necessary for switchable graphics. See this driver install guide by poster HTwingnut: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6582113-post2587.html Forgot to save Original Wallpaper? You can download it here (uploaded by poster Tornbaccus): Envy 14 Wallpapers.rar Want the original theme back? - Thanks to poster nrq007 Stardock MyColors Notebook Desktop Themes HP Envy 15-1050nr Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English) RECOMMENDED COMMERCIAL SYSTEM SOFTWARE LIST: SRS Audio Sandbox $19.99 - https://www.srslabs.com/store/store/...sp?idProduct=6 LINUX on the ENVY 14 See blog by poster ademmer - Andreas Demmer Review: Running Linux on the HP Envy 14 Windows 7 system recovery ISO If you get startup problems and don't have a retail or OEM Windows 7 disk, you can use the following startup repair/system recovery option. It's a downloadable ISO that just contains Windows 7 startup repair for 32 and 64bit versions. Download Windows 7 System Recovery Discs — The NeoSmart Files Guide to replace optical drive with HDD. By poster gertch http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-e...cal-drive.html

And lastly...
SANITY CHECK - posted by ciaol611
From: xkcd: Online Package Tracking





NEED TO RETURN YOUR HP NOTEBOOK? You've got 21 days from day of delivery* to do so.

*Day of delivery means day it's delivered to your address.

From HP's Website: (Thanks to poster Butr0sButr0s)

To process a return or exchange

We only accept returns for orders placed with the HP Home & Home Office Store by phone or online. We can not accept returns or exchanges for the HP Parts Store, the HP Small & Medium Business Store, repairs, or any other online store or retail outlet.

Returns requests can be initiated by phone, or for many products by online chat.
Step 1: Request a return material authorization number (RMA)
* Call 1-888-650-1544 or use online chat (details below).
* An RMA is required for all returns and exchanges.


Step 2: Print your Return Label
* You will promptly receive an email notification from FedEx that your HP Home & Home Office pre-paid return shipping label is available.
* Follow the enclosed link to FedEx and print the label as soon as possible. This label will expire 5 days after issuance.


Step 3: Prepare your package for return.
* Replace the product in its original packaging, making sure to include all items originally in the box
* Remove, mark-out, or cover any original shipping labels and affix the new label
* Write in bold letters on the package: "RMA [your return material authorization number]". For example: RMA R123456789
* Take the package to any FedEx package drop-off location within 5 calendar days of the RMA issuance.

Simple as that.

NEED TO CONTACT HP? The "Consumer Resolution Line" 888-227-8451

TEAM ENVY USER BARS: - by poster Tornbachus

Right click them for the URL, then paste the URL into your sig surrounded by image tags.
BE sure to read forum rules about sigs for you don't get in trouble.








BY poster ademmer -





Link to Original Owner's lounge: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-e...rs-lounge.html

[MmmHmmmmm]

First

Yeeeeeee

[tornbacchus]

Aw I see part 2 is now here. Lets try and keep it on topic

EDIT: I love how my post is last in the first owners lounge

EDIT: not anymore

lol 2.0 wins the race to 10,000

EDIT: if my topic is kept here, I will update it with USEFUL information once I get my envy. I plan on doing a full review, pics, benchies etc.

[BDF92]

I'm ordering my E14 tomorrow, like the poster above me I'll try to make good use of my first page privilege and do a review with pictures

EDIT: My E14 is on its way and should ship out on the 6th, expect a review within the next 3 weeks!

EDIT2: Envy coming today! Review inc 2-3 days

EDIT 3: There's been a family emergency so I'm going to have to put it off for another week. Sorry!

[MmmHmmmmm]

Does anyone know of a decent antiglare screen cover?

[HTWingNut]

You spelled "Deux" wrong. Unless you want us all to put up our dukes!



[MOD EDIT:] Sacre Bleu! It's the new French. Ain't you know nuttin' Monsieur Roscoe P Coletrane?!

[PeterDLai]

This might be a real way to get rid of the whine, but with some undesirable consequences.

I posted this warning in the first part of this thread before the wave of posts to get to 10,000 but I will post it again:

WARNING: This document (from Microsoft) says "Note that disabling the processor idle states on a system has severe negative energy efficiency and thermal consequences and should be done only in consultation with the system or processor vendor."

The option to disable processor idle states is hidden by default in Windows 7, but a registry change will make it show up in the advanced options of each power plan.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ Power \ PowerSettings \ 54533251-82be-4824-96c1-47b60b740d00 \ 5d76a2ca-e8c0-402f-a133-2158492d58ad

If you change the Attributes DWORD value (of the key above) from 1 to 0, you will make the option to disable processor idle state visible in the advanced settings for each power plan.

Control Panel -> Power Options -> Edit power plan -> Change advanced power settings -> Processor power management -> Processor idle disable -> Disable idle

Without this registry change, that option is hidden. However, I am not responsible for anything bad that happens if you try disabling this. I don't have my ENVY 14 yet so I don't know what will happen but it appears to be reversible. From what I've gathered, it might make your fans run at all times and could cause higher temperatures as well.

Other solutions that I've come across are a Bluetooth workaround (enabling Bluetooth on some Dell models apparently prevents the CPU from entering these idle states) or enabling a feature for the built-in microphone to "Listen to this device", causing enough processor usage to stay out of the idle states as well.

[ExodusC]

Can't wait on my Envy 14 to get here!

Still currently: "Order in production"

Core i5-450M
HD 5650M / Intel GMA
4GB DDR3 RAM
1600x900 14.5" screen
500GB 7200RPM HDD (to be swapped with OCZ Vertex 60GB)

Edit: Will update this post with first impressions, maybe a review (if we still need more when I get mine), benchmarks, etc. Will obviously list any problems I have or do not have!

Also, I hope I can get the 720p video hack working on my Nexus One (it's running Android 2.2, which is the problem), so I could record a review in 720p for everyone.

[vladmoney]

this spot on first page is for sale, pm for price
jk, maybe

[JJB]

2.0

May I humbly suggest that you place a link on post # 10,000 to this page?

I was actually typing a reply and it got lost when I clciked 'submit' since you must have ended the thread while I was typing Couldn't have to important though, since now that I'm here I forget what I was going to post anyway......