Would you buy another HP?

[Geekz]

bought my first HP back in 2009, never had issues with it except for overheating on games (my fault as well because it's such a PITA to clean the fans and repaste the gpu/cpu).

still works fine for web browsing, skype, movies etc...

so to answer the thread, maybe yes but after finding out about sager/clevo laptops and how the build quality is better with more options then HP for me has to really step up it's game before I would consider their laptops again.

(aside from the HP fiasco in my country a few years back where they will not honor international warranty and would over charge on repairs, Asus,Dell,MSI. Lenovo still accepts international warranty. here's an article written by one of our local resellers regarding the issues with HP in our country if you're interested to know more.
CoolTOYZ)

[HTWingNut]

I love Sagers too, but when it comes to battery life they have nothing decent.

[XTORO]

But battery life isn't really an issue when you're buying a gaming/entertainment laptop or a desktop replacement... If I were gaming, I would likely be somewhere comfortable and plugged into the wall socket. But as for entertainment, I get over 4 hours on my DV7's 6-cell battery when watching movies using VLC. This is with wifi off, switching to the on-board Intel video card, on the "Power Saver" power profile, and the display 2 notches below the brightest setting. That's pretty damn good in my opinion.

I looked at Sager/Clevo as well but I've read many complaints in my research about overheating as well. Also, their price is way higher, and their machines weigh a ton. I know it's a desktop replacement, but I will still travel with it on occasion.

[HTWingNut]

But battery life isn't really an issue when you're buying a gaming/entertainment laptop or a desktop replacement... If I were gaming, I would likely be somewhere comfortable and plugged into the wall socket. But as for entertainment, I get over 4 hours on my DV7's 6-cell battery when watching movies using VLC. This is with wifi off, switching to the on-board Intel video card, on the "Power Saver" power profile, and the display 2 notches below the brightest setting. That's pretty damn good in my opinion.

I looked at Sager/Clevo as well but I've read many complaints in my research about overheating as well. Also, their price is way higher, and their machines weigh a ton. I know it's a desktop replacement, but I will still travel with it on occasion.

Battery life is important. Just because I want to game on occasion doesn't mean I want to sacrifice battery life for general use, web surfing, movies, etc. Sagers typically won't exceed 2-2.5 hours even with power saving measures.

Sagers don't overheat typically. They have some of the best cooling for gaming laptops.

[Geekz]

yeah i agree, battery life is a big downside for sager laptops, hopefully they add in optimus support for those non gaming moments. i mean the hardware is there already, just need to make it work
and as for the overheating, nope mine doesn't even reach 90c on gaming or benchamrk (except on furmark for 15 mins).

going back to topic, maybe because my laptop preferences have changed as well moving from desktop gaming to mainly laptop use, why I went for higher end components. but If my needs were the same 3 years ago where I just needed a laptop to do work stuff, I probably would still take a look at hp now specially the envy line and upcoming "spectre" and hopefully they make it easier to clean the vents and fan without removing the keyboard and mobo just to clean dust clogging up the vents :P

[HTWingNut]

Apparently with Ivy Bridge, Sager is supposedly going to support Optimus. To be honest I don't care so much about Optimus, as I would manual switchable graphics. I don't want the headache of Optimus, I'd rather just turn GPU on or off.

[Geekz]

well Optimus is fairly new though, hopefully it gets better as it matures.

[HTWingNut]

True. To be honest, I'm overall very satisfied with my HP, and surprisingly so. I just wanted something inexpensive, that could game on occasion, with a decent screen, long battery life (> 4 hrs without gimping the machine entirely) and as cheap as I could get. I got more than I bargained for. However if Sager comes out with an Optimus laptop with the next gen GPU and Ivy Bridge for < $1200 (like NP8130) I may bite, as long as battery life is at least 4 hours. But after messing with AMD, I will probably be able to get a comparable HP AMD Trinity machine for < $800.

[baiii]

I got a dv6-6135dx since blackfriday. The laptop itself had be troublesome(design faults) but their cost/performance ratio is too good to pass by.

I have had several different brand of laptop before, overheating is just common on all consumer laptop. thinkpad t61 fan dead in 6-12 month. Dell vostro 1500 come in the first day as a oven .

I would say most of the consumer laptop have a sufficent cooling design, but ther QC is just ... A proper repaste on all these laptop easily drop 10C.

Either thermal compound is 2 expensive or applying them is?

[Starrbuck]

That whole issue with nVidia and bad solder was handled poorly by everyone, Dell especially, primarily because nVidia never really admitted to wrong doing. It was the OEM's that footed the bill not nVidia.

Perhaps that had a major role in HP primarily using AMD graphics lately!